Mouthpiece Work / Re: Digest Number 2905
FROM: phlopz (Bob Phillips)
SUBJECT: Re: Digest Number 2905
There was a horror story floating around just last week about a fellow who played the bagpipes and died from a lung infection traced to bacteria in the bag of his instrument. That stirred a flurry of wind instrument cleanings around here. bob On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:22 AM, <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > [image: Yahoo! 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Posted by: johangjonker@... > <johangjonker@...?subject=Re%3A%203D%20printing%20experiments> > I checked this with my filament supplier. > > He explained that the problem is not the material used but the fact that > 3D printing causes microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a > breeding place for bacteria coming from saliva. > > > There is anti bacterial PLA on the market but that works only for two > years. > > > I don't know how true that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases > his opinion on the answers he has to give on questions about food safety. > Maybe it is different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D printed > mouthpieces safe? > > > > > > > Reply to sender > <johangjonker@...?subject=Re%3A%203D%20printing%20experiments> . 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Posted by: "barrylevine" moeaaron > <barrylevine@norwoodlight.com?subject=Re%3A%203D%20printing%20experiments> > > > Since we don't store food in mouthpieces, one can argue that food > safety regs shouldn't apply - although I suppose if one encounters > bureaucrats looking to make trouble, sweet reason may not prevail. > > In > any case, inasmuch as these are bacteria that are *already* living in > the mouth, I don't see why this should be a problem for an individual's > mouthpiece. > > As far as selling 3D printed mouthpieces that you've had > in your mouth during final adjustment, a germicide soak should suffice. > Bleach. Cetylcide. Ethylene oxide if you can find some place to do it > and are super serious about sterilization. > > Barry Levine > > On > 2016-08-25 2:09 pm, johangjonker@zonnet.nl [MouthpieceWork] wrote: > > > I > checked this with my filament supplier. > > > > He explained that the > problem is not the material used but the fact that 3D printing causes > microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a breeding place for > bacteria coming from saliva. > > > > There is anti bacterial PLA on the > market but that works only for two years. > > > > I don't know how true > that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases his opinion on the > answers he has to give on questions about food safety. 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Posted by: "STEVE GOODSON" saxgourmet > <saxgourmet@...?subject=Re%3A%203D%20printing%20experiments> > seriously, folks……saxophone mouthpieces are just not something we need to > get OSHA or the nanny state involved with…… > > > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:24 PM, barrylevine barrylevine@... > [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > Since we don't store food in mouthpieces, one can argue that food safety > regs shouldn't apply - although I suppose if one encounters bureaucrats > looking to make trouble, sweet reason may not prevail. > > > > In any case, inasmuch as these are bacteria that are *already* living in > the mouth, I don't see why this should be a problem for an individual's > mouthpiece. > > > > As far as selling 3D printed mouthpieces that you've had in your mouth > during final adjustment, a germicide soak should suffice. Bleach. > Cetylcide. Ethylene oxide if you can find some place to do it and are super > serious about sterilization. > > > > Barry Levine > > > > > > On 2016-08-25 2:09 pm, johangjonker@... <mailto: > johangjonker@...>[MouthpieceWork] wrote: > > > >> > >> I checked this with my filament supplier. > >> > >> > >> He explained that the problem is not the material used but the fact > that 3D printing causes microscopic small spaces in the object that can be > a breeding place for bacteria coming from saliva. > >> > >> There is anti bacterial PLA on the market but that works only for two > years. > >> > >> I don't know how true that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier > bases his opinion on the answers he has to give on questions about food > safety. Maybe it is different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D > printed mouthpieces safe? > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender > <saxgourmet@...?subject=Re%3A%203D%20printing%20experiments> . 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FROM: bradbehn (Brad Behn)
SUBJECT: Re: Digest Number 2905
Hi Bob,
Thanks for forwarding this thread. I am a member of that group and I have skimmed through but I was on vacation all last week so I haven't read it thoroughly. I will look over again.
On another note, I invite you to keep an eye on my website as I am redoing it and offer some new products as well. The redo should be ready for public in a couple of weeks.
Best,
Brad
Bradford BehnMouthpiece Maker, Behn Mouthpieces InternationalPrincipal Clarinet, Oklahoma City Philharmonic3101 Spyglass Hill Rd.Edmond, OK 73034405.651.6063www.clarinetmouthpiece.comLike us on FacebookFollow us on Twitter
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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 07:39:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Digest Number 2905
There was a horror story floating around just last week about a fellow who played the bagpipes and died from a lung infection traced to bacteria in the bag of his instrument. That stirred a flurry of wind instrument cleanings around here.
bob
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:22 AM, <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Digest #2905
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Re: 3D printing experiments
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Re: 3D printing experiments
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moeaaron
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Re: 3D printing experiments
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"STEVE GOODSON"
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Re: 3D printing experiments
Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:
johangjonker@zonnet.nl
I checked this with my filament supplier.
He explained that the problem is not the material used but the fact that 3D printing causes microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a breeding place for bacteria coming from saliva.
There is anti bacterial PLA on the market but that works only for two years.
I don't know how true that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases his opinion on the answers he has to give on questions about food safety. Maybe it is different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D printed mouthpieces safe?
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Re: 3D printing experiments
Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"barrylevine" moeaaron
Since we don't store food in mouthpieces, one can argue that food
safety regs shouldn't apply - although I suppose if one encounters
bureaucrats looking to make trouble, sweet reason may not prevail.
In
any case, inasmuch as these are bacteria that are *already* living in
the mouth, I don't see why this should be a problem for an individual's
mouthpiece.
As far as selling 3D printed mouthpieces that you've had
in your mouth during final adjustment, a germicide soak should suffice.
Bleach. Cetylcide. Ethylene oxide if you can find some place to do it
and are super serious about sterilization.
Barry Levine
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2016-08-25 2:09 pm, johangjonker@... [MouthpieceWork] wrote:
> I
checked this with my filament supplier.
>
> He explained that the
problem is not the material used but the fact that 3D printing causes
microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a breeding place for
bacteria coming from saliva.
>
> There is anti bacterial PLA on the
market but that works only for two years.
>
> I don't know how true
that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases his opinion on the
answers he has to give on questions about food safety. Maybe it is
different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D printed
mouthpieces safe?
>
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Re: 3D printing experiments
Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"STEVE GOODSON" saxgourmet
seriously, folks……saxophone mouthpieces are just not something we need to get OSHA or the nanny state involved with……
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> Since we don't store food in mouthpieces, one can argue that food safety regs shouldn't apply - although I suppose if one encounters bureaucrats looking to make trouble, sweet reason may not prevail.
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> In any case, inasmuch as these are bacteria that are *already* living in the mouth, I don't see why this should be a problem for an individual's mouthpiece.
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> As far as selling 3D printed mouthpieces that you've had in your mouth during final adjustment, a germicide soak should suffice. Bleach. Cetylcide. Ethylene oxide if you can find some place to do it and are super serious about sterilization.
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>> I checked this with my filament supplier.
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>> He explained that the problem is not the material used but the fact that 3D printing causes microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a breeding place for bacteria coming from saliva.
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>> There is anti bacterial PLA on the market but that works only for two years.
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>> I don't know how true that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases his opinion on the answers he has to give on questions about food safety. Maybe it is different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D printed mouthpieces safe?
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1990's Runyon mouthpiece magazine ad
Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"STEVE GOODSON" saxgourmet
Runyon magazine ad from the 1990's......I'm holding "Big Mambo", my 30M......Jody Espina and I were both students of Santy Runyon during this era......check out Jody's outfit.......note dangling saxophone earring.......I used to buy those by the case and present them to young women who had met certain "tests"........the coat I'm wearing in that picture was a very shiny silver satin with a tiny sequin in the middle of each square which looked great under stage lights!.....I'm not real sure about that particular hat, though
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FROM: moeaaron (barrylevine)
SUBJECT: Health risks of some instruments
This article was mentioned in MedPageToday, which I get. The bagpiper died of a severe lung inflammation due to exposure to molds and fungi present in the instrument bag (not bacteria). Not an infection, rather an out of control inflammation response. The article had links to a similar incidents in a saxophonist (not fatal; posted below) and a trombonist. Barry Levine ----------------------- Chest. 2010 Sep;138(3):724-6. doi: 10.1378/chest.09-2991. Hypersensitivity pneumonitis due to molds in a saxophone player. Metzger F1, Haccuria A, Reboux G, Nolard N, Dalphin JC, De Vuyst P. 1Department of Respiratory Disease, Jean Minjoz University Hospital, Besançon, France. This 48-year-old patient was evaluated for an interstitial pneumonia. An open-lung biopsy showed a pattern of nonspecific interstitial pneumonia. The CT scan appearance, showing mosaic ground-glass opacities in the ventilated parts of the lung, the centrolobular predominance of inflammation on the lung sections, and the presence of a lymphocytic alveolitis at BAL suggested a hypersensitivity pneumonitis. The patient was a white-collar worker and had no contact with pets, birds, drugs, or molds at home. He used to play the saxophone as a hobby. Two molds, Ulocladium botrytis and Phoma sp, were detected in the saxophone. Precipitating antibodies to these molds were present in his serum. An additional study confirmed the frequent colonization of saxophones with potentially pathogenic molds, such as Fusarium sp, Penicillium sp, and Cladosporium sp. Respiratory physicians should be aware of the risk of hypersensitivity pneumonitis in saxophone or perhaps other wind instrument players. PMID: 20822994 On 2016-08-26 10:39 am, Bob Phillips rwphillipsidaho@... [MouthpieceWork] wrote: > There was a horror story floating around just last week about a fellow who played the bagpipes and died from a lung infection traced to bacteria in the bag of his instrument. That stirred a flurry of wind instrument cleanings around here. > > bob
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: Health risks of some instruments
there’s now a discussion group dedicated to the discussion of instrument hygiene on Facebook > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:40 AM, barrylevine barrylevine@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > This article was mentioned in MedPageToday, which I get. The bagpiper died of a severe lung inflammation due to exposure to molds and fungi present in the instrument bag (not bacteria). Not an infection, rather an out of control inflammation response. > > The article had links to a similar incidents in a saxophonist (not fatal; posted below) and a trombonist. > > Barry Levine > > ----------------------- > > Chest. 2010 Sep;138(3):724-6. doi: 10.1378/chest.09-2991. > Hypersensitivity pneumonitis due to molds in a saxophone player. > Metzger F1, Haccuria A, Reboux G, Nolard N, Dalphin JC, De Vuyst P. > 1Department of Respiratory Disease, Jean Minjoz University Hospital, Besançon, France. > > This 48-year-old patient was evaluated for an interstitial pneumonia. An open-lung biopsy showed a pattern of nonspecific interstitial pneumonia. The CT scan appearance, showing mosaic ground-glass opacities in the ventilated parts of the lung, the centrolobular predominance of inflammation on the lung sections, and the presence of a lymphocytic alveolitis at BAL suggested a hypersensitivity pneumonitis. The patient was a white-collar worker and had no contact with pets, birds, drugs, or molds at home. He used to play the saxophone as a hobby. Two molds, Ulocladium botrytis and Phoma sp, were detected in the saxophone. Precipitating antibodies to these molds were present in his serum. An additional study confirmed the frequent colonization of saxophones with potentially pathogenic molds, such as Fusarium sp, Penicillium sp, and Cladosporium sp. Respiratory physicians should be aware of the risk of hypersensitivity pneumonitis in saxophone or perhaps other wind instrument players. > > PMID: 20822994 > > > On 2016-08-26 10:39 am, Bob Phillips rwphillipsidaho@... <mailto:rwphillipsidaho@...> [MouthpieceWork] wrote: > >> There was a horror story floating around just last week about a fellow who played the bagpipes and died from a lung infection traced to bacteria in the bag of his instrument. That stirred a flurry of wind instrument cleanings around here. >> >> bob >> > > >
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SUBJECT: Re: Digest Number 2905
The last time the "horror story" went around it was about a trombone player. By the way, those that admonish posters to trim their posts, I don't have the opportunity to do that. When I reply I get a blank window to type in, with a Send button at the bottom. And after hitting reply it takes a long time for the reply window to come up. Yahoo really screwed up the groups with the changes they made a while back.. Paul C.