Mouthpiece Work / Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
FROM: warren927736 ()
SUBJECT: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
Good day guys I refaced this mouthpiece and on the process i noticed side rails became thicker. I just want to know if it is possible to make the side rails thinner? And how to do it.. What is the effect of the thick side rails on this mouthpiece?? Thank you
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
if the side rail is too wide after the excess on the outside is removed, the inside of the rail should also be thinned…..thin rails = quick response, quick articulation……wide rails = slower articulation, slower response, dead sounding tone > On Aug 20, 2016, at 9:56 AM, 'Karl Krelove' karlkrelove@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Steve, I know this is the conventional wisdom, and where the tip rail is concerned, I think it’s demonstrably true. But the area of the side rails in contact with the reed shouldn’t change as a result of thinning those rails *from the outside* - the reed width doesn’t change and it extends over the rails from the window. Thinning from the outside, to my mind, only thins the area of rail that’s exposed beyond the edge of the reed. Why does this affect the reed’s response one way or the other? > > > > Karl Krelove > > > > From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>[mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 10:44 AM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response? > > > > > > Narrow side rails articulate quicker. thin them from the outside of the mouthpiece. > > Steve Goodson > > > > > On Aug 20, 2016, at 6:08 AM, warren927736@... <mailto:warren927736@...> [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> >> Good day guys >> >> >> >> >> >> I refaced this mouthpiece and on the process i noticed side rails became thicker. I just want to know if it is possible to make the side rails thinner? And how to do it.. >> >> >> >> >> >> What is the effect of the thick side rails on this mouthpiece?? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > >
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
I find thin side rails near the tip behave like thin tip rails. Like an extension of it. Farther away from the tip it has gradually less effect. I always cut the sides width down to the Reed width. This helps with centering the reed. The inside rail shape depends on the job with me. > On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:28 AM, STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > if the side rail is too wide after the excess on the outside is removed, the inside of the rail should also be thinned…..thin rails = quick response, quick articulation……wide rails = slower articulation, slower response, dead sounding tone > > > > > >> On Aug 20, 2016, at 9:56 AM, 'Karl Krelove' karlkrelove@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Steve, I know this is the conventional wisdom, and where the tip rail is concerned, I think it’s demonstrably true. But the area of the side rails in contact with the reed shouldn’t change as a result of thinning those rails *from the outside* - the reed width doesn’t change and it extends over the rails from the window. Thinning from the outside, to my mind, only thins the area of rail that’s exposed beyond the edge of the reed. Why does this affect the reed’s response one way or the other? >> >> >> >> Karl Krelove >> >> >> >> From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com[mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] >> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 10:44 AM >> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response? >> >> >> >> >> >> Narrow side rails articulate quicker. thin them from the outside of the mouthpiece. >> >> Steve Goodson >> >> >> >> >>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 6:08 AM, warren927736@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Good day guys >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I refaced this mouthpiece and on the process i noticed side rails became thicker. I just want to know if it is possible to make the side rails thinner? And how to do it.. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What is the effect of the thick side rails on this mouthpiece?? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> >> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com > >
FROM: warren927736 ()
SUBJECT: Re: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
How do you make the side rails thinner Keith? Do you have some videos on how to do it? Thanks
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
Use files and sandpaper on thick material to make it thin. I show it in some of my videos. > On Aug 21, 2016, at 7:27 AM, warren927736@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > How do you make the side rails thinner Keith? > > > Do you have some videos on how to do it? > > > Thanks >
FROM: warren927736 ()
SUBJECT: Re: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
thanks...I'll find it.. will 660 grit be enough or a more finer grit, say, 1000 grit perhaps?? thanks
FROM: frymorgan ()
SUBJECT: Re: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
Start with the file. You start with 600 grit you still won't be done with this one by christmas. File, then 240 grit, then 400, then 600, then 1000, then polish.
FROM: warren927736 ()
SUBJECT: Re: Side Rail: Effects on Sound or Response?
ohhhh... so that's the way to do it... thanks!!! :)