Mouthpiece Work / 3D printing experiments
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: 3D printing experiments
As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color.
FROM: sonusrepair (Tom Tapscott)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments [1 Attachment]
what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? Sonus Instrument Repair Tom Tapscott 802 Glendale Dr Clarksville, TN 37043 931-551-9411 sonusrepair@... On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from STEVE GOODSON included below] As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. 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FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments [1 Attachment]
right now, the 3D production costs are not in any way even close to CNC costs > On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott sonusrepair@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <x-msg://22/#TopText> from Tom Tapscott included below] > > what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? > > Sonus Instrument Repair > Tom Tapscott > 802 Glendale Dr > Clarksville, TN 37043 > 931-551-9411 > sonusrepair@... <mailto:sonusrepair@...> > > > On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... <mailto:saxgourmet@...> [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@...m <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > > > > [Attachment(s) <https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8f8j8c47m5i19#TopText> from STEVE GOODSON included below] > As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. > > I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. > > Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color. > > > > > >
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
MacSax appears to be the first to bring one to the market. The Aura. http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/ > On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:42 AM, STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > right now, the 3D production costs are not in any way even close to CNC costs > > > >> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott sonusrepair@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> [Attachment(s) from Tom Tapscott included below] >> >> what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? >> >> Sonus Instrument Repair >> Tom Tapscott >> 802 Glendale Dr >> Clarksville, TN 37043 >> 931-551-9411 >> sonusrepair@... >> >> >> On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> [Attachment(s) from STEVE GOODSON included below] >> As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. >> >> I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. >> >> Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color. >> >> >> >> > >
FROM: kenlphotos (Ken Lagace Photos)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
Will it copy clarinet mouthpieces? I have an extraordinary clarinet mouthpiece that everyone likes but I will not give it up. KenL From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:19 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments MacSax appears to be the first to bring one to the market. The Aura. http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/ On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:42 AM, STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@cox.net [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: right now, the 3D production costs are not in any way even close to CNC costs On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott sonusrepair@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [ <x-msg://22/#TopText> Attachment(s) from Tom Tapscott included below] what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? Sonus Instrument Repair Tom Tapscott 802 Glendale Dr Clarksville, TN 37043 931-551-9411 sonusrepair@... On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [ <https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8f8j8c47m5i19#TopText> Attachment(s) from STEVE GOODSON included below] As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color.
FROM: saxgourmet (Saxgourmet)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
Sure....you could copy any mouthpiece Steve Goodson > On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, 'Ken Lagace Photos' kenlphotos@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Will it copy clarinet mouthpieces? I have an extraordinary clarinet mouthpiece that everyone likes but I will not give it up. > > > > KenL > > > > > > From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:19 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments > > > > > > MacSax appears to be the first to bring one to the market. The Aura. > > http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/ > > > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:42 AM, STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > right now, the 3D production costs are not in any way even close to CNC costs > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott sonusrepair@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > [Attachment(s) from Tom Tapscott included below] > > > > what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? > > > > Sonus Instrument Repair > Tom Tapscott > 802 Glendale Dr > Clarksville, TN 37043 > 931-551-9411 > sonusrepair@... > > > > On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > [Attachment(s) from STEVE GOODSON included below] > > As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. > > > > I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. > > > > Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color. > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: kenlphotos (Ken Lagace Photos)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
I am really interested. Please keep me posted on where this is going and how I might use the service. KenL From: MouthpieceWork@...m [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:49 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments Sure....you could copy any mouthpiece Steve Goodson On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, 'Ken Lagace Photos' kenlphotos@verizon.net [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Will it copy clarinet mouthpieces? I have an extraordinary clarinet mouthpiece that everyone likes but I will not give it up. KenL From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:19 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments MacSax appears to be the first to bring one to the market. The Aura. http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/ On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:42 AM, STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: right now, the 3D production costs are not in any way even close to CNC costs On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott sonusrepair@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [ <x-msg://22/#TopText> Attachment(s) from Tom Tapscott included below] what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? Sonus Instrument Repair Tom Tapscott 802 Glendale Dr Clarksville, TN 37043 931-551-9411 sonusrepair@... On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [ <https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8f8j8c47m5i19#TopText> Attachment(s) from STEVE GOODSON included below] As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color.
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
I’m not in the business of copying mouthpieces…..we’re only interested in using this technology to manufacture our own original designs……we duplicated one of our mouthpieces only because we wanted a point of reference…..sooner or later, I’m pretty sure somebody will offer duplication services…..the price of admission is pretty high right now > On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:52 PM, 'Ken Lagace Photos' kenlphotos@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > I am really interested. Please keep me posted on where this is going and how I might use the service. > > > > KenL > > > > From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:49 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments > > > > > > Sure....you could copy any mouthpiece > > Steve Goodson > > > > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, 'Ken Lagace Photos' kenlphotos@... <mailto:kenlphotos@verizon.net> [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> >> Will it copy clarinet mouthpieces? I have an extraordinary clarinet mouthpiece that everyone likes but I will not give it up. >> >> >> >> KenL >> >> >> >> >> >> From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@...m>] >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:19 PM >> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments >> >> >> >> >> >> MacSax appears to be the first to bring one to the market. The Aura. >> >> http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/ <http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/> >> >> >> On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:42 AM, STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... <mailto:saxgourmet@...> [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> right now, the 3D production costs are not in any way even close to CNC costs >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott sonusrepair@yahoo.com <mailto:sonusrepair@...> [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Attachment(s) <x-msg://22/#TopText> from Tom Tapscott included below] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sonus Instrument Repair >>>> Tom Tapscott >>>> 802 Glendale Dr >>>> Clarksville, TN 37043 >>>> 931-551-9411 >>>> sonusrepair@... <mailto:sonusrepair@...> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@cox.net <mailto:saxgourmet@...> [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Attachment(s) <https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8f8j8c47m5i19#TopText> from STEVE GOODSON included below] >>>> >>>> As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > >
FROM: kenlphotos (Ken Lagace Photos)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
Thanks Steve – keep me posted anyway. From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:59 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments I’m not in the business of copying mouthpieces…..we’re only interested in using this technology to manufacture our own original designs……we duplicated one of our mouthpieces only because we wanted a point of reference…..sooner or later, I’m pretty sure somebody will offer duplication services…..the price of admission is pretty high right now On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:52 PM, 'Ken Lagace Photos' kenlphotos@verizon.net [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I am really interested. Please keep me posted on where this is going and how I might use the service. KenL From: <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [ <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:49 PM To: <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments Sure....you could copy any mouthpiece Steve Goodson On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:45 PM, 'Ken Lagace Photos' <mailto:kenlphotos@...> kenlphotos@verizon.net [MouthpieceWork] < <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Will it copy clarinet mouthpieces? I have an extraordinary clarinet mouthpiece that everyone likes but I will not give it up. KenL From: <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [ <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:19 PM To: <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] 3D printing experiments MacSax appears to be the first to bring one to the market. The Aura. <http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/> http://macsax.com/aura-by-macsax-1/ On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:42 AM, STEVE GOODSON <mailto:saxgourmet@...> saxgourmet@cox.net [MouthpieceWork] < <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: right now, the 3D production costs are not in any way even close to CNC costs On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott <mailto:sonusrepair@...> sonusrepair@... [MouthpieceWork] < <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [ <x-msg://22/#TopText> Attachment(s) from Tom Tapscott included below] what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? Sonus Instrument Repair Tom Tapscott 802 Glendale Dr Clarksville, TN 37043 931-551-9411 <mailto:sonusrepair@...> sonusrepair@... On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON <mailto:saxgourmet@...> saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork]" < <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [ <https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8f8j8c47m5i19#TopText> Attachment(s) from STEVE GOODSON included below] As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color.
FROM: zoot51 (Bill Hausmann)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments [1 Attachment]
Not much. But how long until bootleg copies of mouthpieces hit the market? Bill Hausmann If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Tom Tapscott sonusrepair@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) from Tom Tapscott included below] > > what are the chances the "big" manufacturers will move to this technology? > > Sonus Instrument Repair > Tom Tapscott > 802 Glendale Dr > Clarksville, TN 37043 > 931-551-9411 > sonusrepair@... > > > On Friday, March 11, 2016 9:42 AM, "STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork]" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > [Attachment(s) from STEVE GOODSON included below] > As some of you know, Saxgourmet Products has been experimenting (along with our manufacturing partner, EMRmachine) for the last couple of years with 3D printing. In spite of all of the hype on the internet, we have been through four generations of printers and a wide assortment of materials and were still not obtaining results that were to our standards. > > I’m pleased to be able to report that the latest experiment produced a virtually perfect copy of our Dragon’s Tongue tenor mouthpiece which played right out of the printer. This prototype was printed in polycarbonate, which is extremely strong. Aside from some easily resolved minor cosmetic issues, we’re absolutely delighted, and now know that we can produce copies of any mouthpiece we choose to use as an input with extreme accuracy. We are going to see if we can obtain the same printing results in Delrin, which we prefer for its acoustic qualities. > > Here’s a picture of the example we printed. Even the spiral threads of the tone chamber were accurately copied. We can also tint the material any color. > > > > > > >
FROM: johangjonker@zonnet.nl ()
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
Thanks Steve for sharing this. I am working in a 3D design tool and did not find the suitable material for printing. It seems that some use filament that look like bronzefill. But I contacted the supplier of this material and he could not guarantee the safety of it (it should be food safe), How is that with the polycarbonate filament? regards Johan Jonker
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
we’ve had great luck with polycarbonate….we’re currently experimenting with printing with Delrin…. > On Aug 24, 2016, at 10:47 AM, johangjonker@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Thanks Steve for sharing this. I am working in a 3D design tool and did not find the suitable material for printing. It seems that some use filament that look like bronzefill. But I contacted the supplier of this material and he could not guarantee the safety of it (it should be food safe), How is that with the polycarbonate filament? > > > regards Johan Jonker > >
FROM: johangjonker@zonnet.nl ()
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
Wow that would be perfect; 3D printing with Delrin! That would offer a lot of interesting opportunities. Printing quality clarinets of flutes would then also be possible. By the way attached is a picture of bronzefill mouthpiece I had printed. The material is interesting because it is heavy and strong. But it is not guaranteed safe.
FROM: zoot51 (Bill Hausmann)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
There are molded polycarbonate mouthpieces that have been on the market for a long time. Should be safe. Bill Hausmann If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2016, at 10:57 AM, STEVE GOODSON saxgourmet@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > we’ve had great luck with polycarbonate….we’re currently experimenting with printing with Delrin…. > > >> On Aug 24, 2016, at 10:47 AM, johangjonker@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Steve for sharing this. I am working in a 3D design tool and did not find the suitable material for printing. It seems that some use filament that look like bronzefill. But I contacted the supplier of this material and he could not guarantee the safety of it (it should be food safe), How is that with the polycarbonate filament? >> >> >> regards Johan Jonker > > > >
FROM: johangjonker@zonnet.nl ()
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
I checked this with my filament supplier. He explained that the problem is not the material used but the fact that 3D printing causes microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a breeding place for bacteria coming from saliva. There is anti bacterial PLA on the market but that works only for two years. I don't know how true that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases his opinion on the answers he has to give on questions about food safety. Maybe it is different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D printed mouthpieces safe?
FROM: moeaaron (barrylevine)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
Since we don't store food in mouthpieces, one can argue that food safety regs shouldn't apply - although I suppose if one encounters bureaucrats looking to make trouble, sweet reason may not prevail. In any case, inasmuch as these are bacteria that are *already* living in the mouth, I don't see why this should be a problem for an individual's mouthpiece. As far as selling 3D printed mouthpieces that you've had in your mouth during final adjustment, a germicide soak should suffice. Bleach. Cetylcide. Ethylene oxide if you can find some place to do it and are super serious about sterilization. Barry Levine On 2016-08-25 2:09 pm, johangjonker@... [MouthpieceWork] wrote: > I checked this with my filament supplier. > > He explained that the problem is not the material used but the fact that 3D printing causes microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a breeding place for bacteria coming from saliva. > > There is anti bacterial PLA on the market but that works only for two years. > > I don't know how true that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases his opinion on the answers he has to give on questions about food safety. Maybe it is different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D printed mouthpieces safe? > > Links: ------ [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MouthpieceWork/conversations/messages/12642;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZWd1Y2FwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzYyODI5MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTk4BG1zZ0lkAzEyNjQyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQ3MjE0ODU4Mw--?act=reply&messageNum642 [2] mailto:johangjonker@...?subject=Re%3A%20%5BMouthpieceWork%5D%203D%20printing%20experiments [3] mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5BMouthpieceWork%5D%203D%20printing%20experiments [4] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MouthpieceWork/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZGh1MzUxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzYyODI5MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTk4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ3MjE0ODU4Mw-- [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MouthpieceWork/conversations/topics/12404;_ylc=X3oDMTM2ZDJsNmZuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzYyODI5MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTk4BG1zZ0lkAzEyNjQyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ3MjE0ODU4MwR0cGNJZAMxMjQwNA-- [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MouthpieceWork/photos/photomatic/1713809920;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU- [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MouthpieceWork/photos/photomatic/1713809920;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU- [8] https://yho.com/1wwmgg [9] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork [10] http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups [11] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MouthpieceWork/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMmo1cjhtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzYyODI5MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTk4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQ3MjE0ODU4Mw-- [12] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MouthpieceWork/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMzM2Y2xxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzYyODI5MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTk4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzE0NzIxNDg1ODM- [13] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkZGlhcDZpBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzYyODI5MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTk4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDcyMTQ4NTgz [14] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [15] mailto:MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe [16] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: 3D printing experiments
seriously, folks……saxophone mouthpieces are just not something we need to get OSHA or the nanny state involved with…… > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:24 PM, barrylevine barrylevine@... [MouthpieceWork] <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Since we don't store food in mouthpieces, one can argue that food safety regs shouldn't apply - although I suppose if one encounters bureaucrats looking to make trouble, sweet reason may not prevail. > > In any case, inasmuch as these are bacteria that are *already* living in the mouth, I don't see why this should be a problem for an individual's mouthpiece. > > As far as selling 3D printed mouthpieces that you've had in your mouth during final adjustment, a germicide soak should suffice. Bleach. Cetylcide. Ethylene oxide if you can find some place to do it and are super serious about sterilization. > > Barry Levine > > > On 2016-08-25 2:09 pm, johangjonker@... <mailto:johangjonker@...>[MouthpieceWork] wrote: > >> >> I checked this with my filament supplier. >> >> >> He explained that the problem is not the material used but the fact that 3D printing causes microscopic small spaces in the object that can be a breeding place for bacteria coming from saliva. >> >> There is anti bacterial PLA on the market but that works only for two years. >> >> I don't know how true that is for mouthpieces. I think the supplier bases his opinion on the answers he has to give on questions about food safety. Maybe it is different for mp's and maybe there is a way to treat 3D printed mouthpieces safe? >> >> >> > > > >