Hi to all , 
i have just started learning to measure my mouthpieces
facing curves - so i am a total newbe , 
so please bear with me ;)

I am trying to use a spreadsheet downloaded from the files part of this great 
MouthpieceWork Group - for examle AD's Eliptical Facing Mark II 

so far i have been able to measure the facing curve using sat of feeler gauges, 
tip opening using digital caliper , 
but still don't know how to properly measure a tip rail width ?

thanks in advance for any advices

Dimitri

I use a set of calipers and a ~6X magnifier used to do linen thread counts.

Some guys just use a ball park number or use zero and measure the tip opening at the very tip of the mouthpiece.

On Aug 6, 2013, at 9:31 PM, "dshapko" <jazzroom@...> wrote:

> Hi to all , 
> i have just started learning to measure my mouthpieces
> facing curves - so i am a total newbe , 
> so please bear with me ;)
> 
> I am trying to use a spreadsheet downloaded from the files part of this great 
> MouthpieceWork Group - for examle AD's Eliptical Facing Mark II 
> 
> so far i have been able to measure the facing curve using sat of feeler gauges, 
> tip opening using digital caliper , 
> but still don't know how to properly measure a tip rail width ?
> 
> thanks in advance for any advices
> 
> Dimitri
> 
> 

This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------Thank you for your reply , So its not very crutial to use the correct Tip rail
width for the facibg curve plot? What's a good "ballpark" number to use than
Or just a using a.. zero? Other question is : I've noticed that my old vintage
mluthpieces All have one side of the facing longer than the other .especially
at the 0.0015 feeler gauge ( maybe due to worn facing) If the curve seriously
crocked or longer on one side...do I have to dial in both sides ( left n
right) measures into the spreadsheet ? Sorry for maybe a very basic question.

You can try and measure the tip rail widths on your favorite mouthpieces and use that.  .022" might be typical.
 
Average the left and right readings.  You can modify a spreadsheet so that you can enter a reading for the left and right rails and let the spreadsheet do the averaging.  If you can not do this, then I do not think you should be using a spreadsheet until you learn some basic editting skills.
 


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From: "jazzroom@..." <jazzroom@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:40 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] RE: Tip Rail Width ?

  
Thank you for your reply , So its not very crutial to use the correct Tip rail width for the facibg curve plot? What's a good "ballpark" number to use than Or just a using a.. zero? Other question is : I've noticed that my old vintage mluthpieces All have one side of the facing longer than the other .especially at the 0.0015 feeler gauge ( maybe due to worn facing) If the curve seriously crocked or longer on one side...do I have to dial in both sides ( left n right) measures into the spreadsheet ? Sorry for maybe a very basic question.

It depends where you measure the tip opening from.  If you measure it from the very front of the mouthpiece, use zero as your tip rail width.  If you measure the tip opening from the inner edge of the tip rail, then you should also measure the tip rail width and input that number into the spreadsheet.  This is what I do since I find it easier to measure the tip opening at that point.

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cannot access the files section of the group anymore, get " not authorized "
displayed... ? anyone noticed that? \\--- In mouthpiecework@yahoogroups.com,
wrote: It depends where you measure the tip opening from. If you measure it
from the very front of the mouthpiece, use zero as your tip rail width. If you
measure the tip opening from the inner edge of the tip rail, then you should
also measure the tip rail width and input that number into the spreadsheet.
This is what I do since I find it easier to measure the tip opening at that
point.

Are you logged in?  Do you see your name up top?

I am not logged in. 
Michael Collins

From: MojoBari 
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:10 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Yahoo Group Files

  

Are you logged in? Do you see your name up top?

nor am I
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Can you access the group files without being logged in?

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This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------Hello I've the same problem. Valentin \\--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com,
wrote: thank you for replies, after Yahoo changed their design. for some
reason i cannot access the files section of the group anymore, get " not
authorized " displayed... ? anyone noticed that? > > \\--- In
mouthpiecework@yahoogroups.com,  wrote: > > > > It depends where you measure
the tip opening from. If you measure it from > the very front of the
mouthpiece, use zero as your tip rail width. If you > measure the tip opening
from the inner edge of the tip rail, then you should > also measure the tip
rail width and input that number into the spreadsheet. > This is what I do
since I find it easier to measure the tip opening at that > point.

This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------hi Valentin, so you to have same problem , i have tested the mouthpiece Yahoo
group on different browsers on Mac OSX computer and on android phone diff
browsers.. still FILES section is not accessible. Any idea what happened ?
\\--- In mouthpiecework@yahoogroups.com,  wrote: Hello I've the same problem.
Valentin \\--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com,  wrote: thank you for
replies, after Yahoo changed their design. for some reason i cannot access the
files section of the group anymore, get " not authorized " displayed... ?
anyone noticed that? > > > \\--- In mouthpiecework@yahoogroups.com,  wrote: >
> >> >> It depends where you measure the tip opening from. If you measure it
from the very front of the mouthpiece, use zero as your tip rail width. If you
measure the tip opening from the inner edge of the tip rail, then you should
also measure the tip rail width and input that number into the spreadsheet.
This is what I do since I find it easier to measure the tip opening at that
point.

This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------i am always logged in , see my name up the top. but still cannot access FIles
section. looks like Yahoo messed up something after yet another "facelift" ?
\\--- In mouthpiecework@yahoogroups.com,  wrote: Are you logged in? Do you see
your name up top?

I can't access the Files section either.




Sent from Samsung tabletjazzroom@gmail.com wrote:i am always logged in , see my name up the top.

but still cannot access FIles section.

looks like Yahoo messed up something after yet another "facelift" ? 



--- In mouthpiecework@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Are you logged in? Do you see your name up top?

I’m able to log in and open the files, photos, whatever. Try logging out and then back in. Also, make sure that your address is not bouncing (look up your name address in the membership list).

Tony F.

 

From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jazzroom@...
Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013 11:53 AM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] RE: Tip Rail Width ?

 

  

i am always logged in , see my name up the top.

but still cannot access FIles section.

looks like Yahoo messed up something after yet another "facelift" ? 



--- In mouthpiecework@yahoogroups.com, <kwbradbury@...> wrote:

Are you logged in? Do you see your name up top?

A LOT of Yahoo Group users are griping about the same thing, not just here.  There are references to something called "Yahoo Neo Group Format", which has screwed everything up.

I am able to access the Files and Photos areas.

Apparently my computer is not infected with Neo yet.

Paul

This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------Since excessive tip rail width has caused so many problems with Yahoo's new
formatting.......; ) I wanted to mention that I cannot access the files area.
It now says I am not authorized. Also, I cannot see attachments sent with
messages ( the spoiler pic from Steve). I don't know if it is just a local
problem or a sitewide issue. Thank you Keith for checking. Larry