3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you (Mouthpiece Work Yahoo Group)

FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)

SUBJECT: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: mdc5220 (Michael Collins)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: adrianotec (adriano souza)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: mdc5220 (Michael Collins)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: sunny_stutzman (Teacher)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: frymorgan (Morgan)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

2 years ago I used 3d printing for prototyping.  A few things I found:
As has been mentioned,ABS plastic by wire is neither accurate nor hard enough.  You need to use sintering to get the accuracy we need.
I had several prototypes made, they played great right out of the box and were very close to the model, closer than I machine them, actually. They looked terrible, and the plastic that is stiff enough to be functional can never be made to look good, so it's out of the question so far for production.

I only used plastic, but this would work just fine with laser or electron beam sintering in steel or titanium.  But even with the difficulties involved in machining a large chamber mouthpiece it's still cheaper than printing one right now.  

Now that I have CNC production up and running I find it much quicker and cheaper to prototype in delrin, but if you're not doing the machining in house you can save a bundle prototyping like this.

cheers
Morgan

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
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> the mouthpieces we printed were FAR from ready to play right out of the machine..
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> On May 28, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Teacher <sunnystutzman@...> wrote:
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> > A 3d printer that deposits material by wire will be no where near accurate enough to copy a mouthpiece.  Only the wax machines used in jewelry making or the more traditional UV laser stereolithography machines would have a chance of making something like a mouthpiece.  Don't waste you time and money on an extruder based 3d printer for this application...
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> > -Sunny
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> > On May 28, 2013, at 10:23 AM, adriano souza wrote:
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> >> In Brazil is possible buy printer 3d US$ 2300,00 and  used ABS material minus US$ 30,00 for 1 kg wire
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> >> http://www.cliever.com.br/cliever/index.php/produtos/cliever-cl1
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> >> 2013/5/28 STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...>
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> >> We had the mouthpiece design modeled in Solid Works..we do that on all our mouthpieces, as it enables us to change vendors when we want tothe material was what appeared to be polycarbonate, although I am not sure. I am sure that even though we got an excellent copy of the mouthpiece, the material was far too soft.the 3D work was done in the USA by one of our vendors. This particular vendor is currently upgrading their 3D equipment, and we'll make another run at it when they're ready. We don't reveal the names of our vendors. Our competitors can find their own.
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> >> On May 28, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Michael Collins <michaeldcollins@...> wrote:
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> >>> Who did your company use for the 3 D modeling? was it in the states? what kind of material did you use for mouthpiece?
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> >>> From: STEVE GOODSON
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> >>> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you
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> >>> Our company first made some 3D scanned mouthpieces about a year ago. The mouthpiece duplicated very well, but we didn't consider the material used to be satisfactory. We know this will change as the technology evolves. 
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FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)

SUBJECT: Re: 3D scanned mpcs coming to a store near you

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FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)