Mouthpiece Work / http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUROVA-Tone-Resonator-for-Tenor-Saxophone-Li
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUROVA-Tone-Resonator-for-Tenor-Saxophone-Li
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FROM: kwbradbury (MojoBari)
SUBJECT: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining a small sound.
FROM: sonusrepair (Tom Tapscott)
SUBJECT: Re: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
Maybe that's its purpose! Hadn't thought about that! Sonus Instrument Repair Tom Tapscott 802 Glendale Dr Clarksville, TN 37043 931-551-9411 sonusrepair@... ________________________________ From: MojoBari <kwbradbury@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:51 PM Subject: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining a small sound.
FROM: moeaaron (Barry Levine)
SUBJECT: Re: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUROVA-Tone-Resonator-for-Tenor-Saxophon
Pictures of it in use are here: http://www.wiredream.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=news&wr_id2 "English" version (only nominally so) via Google translate: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ko&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiredream.co.kr%2Fbbs%2Fboard.php%3Fbo_table%3Dnews%26wr_id%3D32 It looks to be applying pressure at the heart of the reed. Inasmuch as scraping a reed here can easily kill a reed, perhaps stiffening it like this is helpful. Or not. I'll have to make one and see what it does. Barry Levine On 3/26/2013 1:42 PM, STEVE GOODSON wrote: > > ?????? > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNXBsMXQ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzYyODI5MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTk4BG1zZ0lkAzExMTk2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2NDMxOTcyNA--?act=reply&messageNum196> > > > > >
FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
Some brilliant thinking. It reduces the amount of soft, lip tissue reed damping by 50%. Joe Allard would like it. I don't imagine the sound is small at all.
--- On Tue, 3/26/13, MojoBari <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
From: MojoBari <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 5:51 PM
Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining a small sound.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
To me it looked like it would flex the reed some to close off the tip opening. It probably depends on how you position it and tighten it. On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:57 PM, MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote: > Some brilliant thinking. It reduces the amount of soft, lip tissue reed damping by 50%. Joe Allard would like it. I don't imagine the sound is small at all. > > --- On Tue, 3/26/13, MojoBari <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > From: MojoBari <kwbradbury@...> > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 5:51 PM > > > Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining a small sound. > >
FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
......exactly what the jaw/lower teeth (covered by the lower lip) do.
--- On Wed, 3/27/13, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
To: "MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:13 AM
To me it looked like it would flex the reed some to close off the tip opening. It probably depends on how you position it and tighten it.
On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:57 PM, MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote:
Some brilliant thinking. It reduces the amount of soft, lip tissue reed damping by 50%. Joe Allard would like it. I don't imagine the sound is small at all.
--- On Tue, 3/26/13, MojoBari <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
From: MojoBari <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 5:51 PM
Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining a small sound.
FROM: zoot51 (Bill Hausmann)
SUBJECT: Re: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
Or you could buy a mouthpiece with a closer facing. Sent from my iPad On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:19 PM, MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote: > > > ......exactly what the jaw/lower teeth (covered by the lower lip) do. > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/27/13, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator > To: "MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:13 AM > > To me it looked like it would flex the reed some to close off the tip opening. It probably depends on how you position it and tighten it. > > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:57 PM, MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote: > >> >> Some brilliant thinking. It reduces the amount of soft, lip tissue reed damping by 50%. Joe Allard would like it. I don't imagine the sound is small at all. >> >> --- On Tue, 3/26/13, MojoBari <kwbradbury@...m> wrote: >> >> From: MojoBari <kwbradbury@...> >> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator >> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 5:51 PM >> >> >> Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining a small sound. > > >
FROM: moeaaron (Barry Levine)
SUBJECT: Re: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
I made something that I think approximates this thingy, using a strip of soft steel bar stock about 1/4" wide and 3/32" thick, with a concavity ground into the underside to approximate the reed's curvature. Initially I didn't bend it sufficiently to contact the reed as demonstrated at the base of the vamp. But I thought there was some change in tone anyhow. Clamped in a Rovner lig, it seemed to brighten the reed, which I guess is the function of such ligs that have a metal insert contacting the back of the reed. Bending the device more in order to properly press the base of the vamp, it seemed to be a somewhat brightened but smaller sound. I didn't consider this any kind of marvelous improvement, but it may be premature to jump to conclusions, I didn't spend all that much time with it. And for me, using Fibracell, Hahn and Hartman synthetic reeds, which are all quite bright with easier top tones, this gadget may be redundant. It may be more helpful with cane reeds. A Rovner style ligature with something like this incorporated would be somewhat less fidgety to use. Barry Levine On 3/26/2013 11:19 PM, MartinMods wrote: > > ......exactly what the jaw/lower teeth (covered by the lower lip) do. > > > > > --- On *Wed, 3/27/13, Keith Bradbury /<kwbradbury@...>/* wrote: > > > From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator > To: "MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:13 AM > > To me it looked like it would flex the reed some to close off the > tip opening. It probably depends on how you position it and > tighten it. > > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:57 PM, MartinMods <lancelotburt@... > </mc/compose?to=lancelotburt@...>> wrote: > >> Some brilliant thinking. It reduces the amount of soft, lip >> tissue reed damping by 50%. Joe Allard would like it. I don't >> imagine the sound is small at all. >> >> --- On *Tue, 3/26/13, MojoBari /<kwbradbury@... >> </mc/compose?to=kwbradbury@...>>/* wrote: >> >> >> From: MojoBari <kwbradbury@... >> </mc/compose?to=kwbradbury@...>> >> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator >> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> </mc/compose?to=MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> >> Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 5:51 PM >> >> Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining >> a small sound. >> >
FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
I think the idea is, your teeth/lower lip go on the metal, instead of the reed. You then use the embouchure corners to control pitch/sound, giving you a very free blowing, open sound - the Joe Allard school. As far as the acoustical engine is concerned, as long as the reed resonance is kept under control to avoid squeaking, the less reed damping by the lower lip, the better.
--- On Wed, 3/27/13, Barry Levine <barrylevine@norwoodlight.com> wrote:
From: Barry Levine <barrylevine@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 2:17 PM
I made something that I think approximates this thingy, using a strip of
soft steel bar stock about 1/4" wide and 3/32" thick, with a concavity
ground into the underside to approximate the reed's curvature.
Initially I didn't bend it sufficiently to contact the reed as
demonstrated at the base of the vamp. But I thought there was some
change in tone anyhow. Clamped in a Rovner lig, it seemed to brighten
the reed, which I guess is the function of such ligs that have a metal
insert contacting the back of the reed.
Bending the device more in order to properly press the base of the vamp,
it seemed to be a somewhat brightened but smaller sound.
I didn't consider this any kind of marvelous improvement, but it may be
premature to jump to conclusions, I didn't spend all that much time with
it. And for me, using Fibracell, Hahn and Hartman synthetic reeds, which
are all quite bright with easier top tones, this gadget may be
redundant. It may be more helpful with cane reeds.
A Rovner style ligature with something like this incorporated would be
somewhat less fidgety to use.
Barry Levine
On 3/26/2013 11:19 PM, MartinMods wrote:
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> --- On *Wed, 3/27/13, Keith Bradbury /<kwbradbury@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
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> From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
> To: "MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.comMouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:13 AM
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> To me it looked like it would flex the reed some to close off the
> tip opening. It probably depends on how you position it and
> tighten it.
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> On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:57 PM, MartinMods <lancelotburt@...
> </mc/compose?to=lancelotburt@...>> wrote:
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>> Some brilliant thinking. It reduces the amount of soft, lip
>> tissue reed damping by 50%. Joe Allard would like it. I don't
>> imagine the sound is small at all.
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>> --- On *Tue, 3/26/13, MojoBari /<kwbradbury@...
>> </mc/compose?to=kwbradbury@...>>/* wrote:
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>> From: MojoBari <kwbradbury@...
>> </mc/compose?to=kwbradbury@...>>
>> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] BUROVA-Tone-Resonator
>> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>> </mc/compose?to=MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 5:51 PM
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>> Looks like it would help "biters" to relax while maintaining
>> a small sound.
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FROM: kkshaw43 (Kenneth)
SUBJECT: Re: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUROVA-Tone-Resonator-for-Tenor-Saxophon
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > ?????? > I think there are two possibilities: 1. It may be a guide for positioning your lower lip at the correct place (so that your lower teeth are exactly even with the point where the vamp and the reed separate). However, this is just as easily (and at zero cost) by finding the correct point and marking it with a pencil. 2. More likely, it presses the reed so that you can play with no embouchure strength. However, embouchure pressure on the reed varies constantly and is how you get the tone you want. Thus the gizmo is for lazy beginners only and would delay the development of a real embouchure. Ken Shaw