Trashed shank repair (Mouthpiece Work Yahoo Group)

FROM: womrep (womrep)

SUBJECT: Trashed shank repair

I'm a repair tech - one of the school baris I worked on yesterday had a Selmer S90 in the case with a jagged, shattered shank.  To be clear, it's not cracked, the end of the shank is gone and what's left is pointy, jagged, and broken.  Since there was also a Yamaha mouthpiece present and I'm pretty sure the Selmer would have shredded the cork if they tried to put it on the neck, I expect they aren't using the Selmer.  Anyways, it seems like I could use the lathe to cut a clean end on this thing and turn down a considerable length of the remaining shank onto which I could then intsall a replacement shank "sleeve" (kind of like a clarinet tenon/socket replacement if you're familiar with that).  It's never crossed my mind before, but most of the time it's the tip that shatters rather than the shank, most mouthpieces aren't long or fat enough for this to be useful, and the time involved in such a project would generally make it financially impractical, but this is a $200-250 mouthpiece, so it could be worthwhile if it works.  Has anyone here done this sort of thing?
Pete

FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)

SUBJECT: Re: Trashed shank repair

I've made plenty of shank extensions, which is the same thing.  You'll have to make a mandrel that fits the throat snugly to mount the piece on for turning what's left of the shank.  As long as there is enough shank length left before the butt of the table, it will work fine.  

--- On Wed, 3/28/12, womrep <womrep@...> wrote:

From: womrep <womrep@yahoo.com>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Trashed shank repair
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 4:06 AM
















 



  


    
      
      
      I'm a repair tech - one of the school baris I worked on yesterday had a Selmer S90 in the case with a jagged, shattered shank.  To be clear, it's not cracked, the end of the shank is gone and what's left is pointy, jagged, and broken.  Since there was also a Yamaha mouthpiece present and I'm pretty sure the Selmer would have shredded the cork if they tried to put it on the neck, I expect they aren't using the Selmer.  Anyways, it seems like I could use the lathe to cut a clean end on this thing and turn down a considerable length of the remaining shank onto which I could then intsall a replacement shank "sleeve" (kind of like a clarinet tenon/socket replacement if you're familiar with that).  It's never crossed my mind before, but most of the time it's the tip that shatters rather than the shank, most mouthpieces aren't long or fat enough for this to be useful, and the time involved in such a project would generally make it financially impractical,
 but this is a $200-250 mouthpiece, so it could be worthwhile if it works.  Has anyone here done this sort of thing?

Pete

FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman1952)

SUBJECT: Re: Trashed shank repair


--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "womrep" <womrep@...> wrote:
>
> I'm a repair tech - one of the school baris I worked on yesterday had a Selmer S90 in the case with a jagged, shattered shank.  To be clear, it's not cracked, the end of the shank is gone and what's left is pointy, jagged, and broken.  Since there was also a Yamaha mouthpiece present and I'm pretty sure the Selmer would have shredded the cork if they tried to put it on the neck, I expect they aren't using the Selmer.  Anyways, it seems like I could use the lathe to cut a clean end on this thing and turn down a considerable length of the remaining shank onto which I could then intsall a replacement shank "sleeve" (kind of like a clarinet tenon/socket replacement if you're familiar with that).  It's never crossed my mind before, but most of the time it's the tip that shatters rather than the shank, most mouthpieces aren't long or fat enough for this to be useful, and the time involved in such a project would generally make it financially impractical, but this is a $200-250 mouthpiece, so it could be worthwhile if it works.  Has anyone here done this sort of thing?
> Pete
>

I've banded a number of S80 alto and tenor mouthpieces.  The shank is too thin, and cracking is common.  I have not made an extension as you describe and don't think it is worth the time expended.  Also, I am not sure it would remain glued on.

Paul C.

FROM: stevesklar (steve sklar)

SUBJECT: Re: Trashed shank repair

On some of my "modern" Selmers I've made them into Short Shanks, basically cut & smoothed half the shank away to make them the same length as my other mpcs.  They work just fine too.  So don't think that you have to replace the entire shank to the same length as before.

Steve Sklar

FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)

SUBJECT: Re: Trashed shank repair

I recently rebuilt a jagged shank using a metal sleeve on the exterior and epoxy:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150351566306154.396095.342774316153&type=3

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From: womrep <womrep@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:06 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Trashed shank repair

I'm a repair tech - one of the school baris I worked on yesterday had a Selmer S90 in the case with a jagged, shattered shank. To be clear, it's not cracked, the end of the shank is gone and what's left is pointy, jagged, and broken. Since there was also a Yamaha mouthpiece present and I'm pretty sure the Selmer would have shredded the cork if they tried to put it on the neck, I expect they aren't using the Selmer. Anyways, it seems like I could use the lathe to cut a clean end on this thing and turn down a considerable length of the remaining shank onto which I could then intsall a replacement shank "sleeve" (kind of like a clarinet tenon/socket replacement if you're familiar with that). It's never crossed my mind before, but most of the time it's the tip that shatters rather than the shank, most mouthpieces aren't long or fat enough for this to be useful, and the time involved in such a project would generally make it financially impractical, but this
 is a $200-250 mouthpiece, so it could be worthwhile if it works. Has anyone here done this sort of thing?
Pete

FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)

SUBJECT: Re: Trashed shank repair

This similar shank extension job photos shows intermediate steps:

http://www.mojomouthpiecework.com/Photos/tabid/59/AlbumID/386-234/Default.aspx

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From: womrep <womrep@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:06 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Trashed shank repair

I'm a repair tech - one of the school baris I worked on yesterday had a Selmer S90 in the case with a jagged, shattered shank. To be clear, it's not cracked, the end of the shank is gone and what's left is pointy, jagged, and broken. Since there was also a Yamaha mouthpiece present and I'm pretty sure the Selmer would have shredded the cork if they tried to put it on the neck, I expect they aren't using the Selmer. Anyways, it seems like I could use the lathe to cut a clean end on this thing and turn down a considerable length of the remaining shank onto which I could then intsall a replacement shank "sleeve" (kind of like a clarinet tenon/socket replacement if you're familiar with that). It's never crossed my mind before, but most of the time it's the tip that shatters rather than the shank, most mouthpieces aren't long or fat enough for this to be useful, and the time involved in such a project would generally make it financially impractical, but this
 is a $200-250 mouthpiece, so it could be worthwhile if it works. Has anyone here done this sort of thing?
Pete

FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)