Mouthpiece Work / polishing the rails
FROM: arnoldstang3 (John)
SUBJECT: polishing the rails
How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece?
FROM: saxgourmet (Steve Goodson)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass Sent from my iPad STEVE GOODSON Saxophone Guru and Visionary New Orleans www.nationofmusic.com On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > >
FROM: sakshama2 (Sakshama Koloski)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I take a new sheet of printer paper, put some lubricant like vaseline on it and pass the mouthpiece dozen times. On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > ** > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > Sent from my iPad > > STEVE GOODSON > Saxophone Guru and Visionary > New Orleans > www.nationofmusic.com > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > -- Sakshama www. sakshamamouthpieces.com
FROM: arnoldstang3 (John)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Hi Steve, I have 1500 grit emery paper and I find it too abrasive. When you refer to "lapping" is this vigourous back and forth strokes? thanks John --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > Sent from my iPad > > STEVE GOODSON > Saxophone Guru and Visionary > New Orleans > www.nationofmusic.com > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > >
FROM: arnoldstang3 (John)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Adding to below..I find the 1500 to aggressive for polishing. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > Hi Steve, I have 1500 grit emery paper and I find it too abrasive. When you refer to "lapping" is this vigourous back and forth strokes? thanks John > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@> wrote: > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > Saxophone Guru and Visionary > > New Orleans > > www.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@> wrote: > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > >
FROM: arnoldstang3 (John)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I am polishing hard rubber clarinet mouthpieces. Perhaps you are referring to metal mouthpieces? --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > Adding to below..I find the 1500 to aggressive for polishing. > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@> wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, I have 1500 grit emery paper and I find it too abrasive. When you refer to "lapping" is this vigourous back and forth strokes? thanks John > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@> wrote: > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > > Saxophone Guru and Visionary > > > New Orleans > > > www.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@> wrote: > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: saxgourmet (Steve Goodson)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Actually, we have paper up to 4000 in grit at our shop, but 1500 seems to give a nice finish.....back and forth on a glass plate, one direction only......ne er a problem......we do about a thousand mouthpieces a year like this Sent from my iPad STEVE GOODSON Saxophone Guru and Visionary New Orleans www.nationofmusic.com On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:27 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > Hi Steve, I have 1500 grit emery paper and I find it too abrasive. When you refer to "lapping" is this vigourous back and forth strokes? thanks John > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > Saxophone Guru and Visionary > > New Orleans > > www.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: saxgourmet (Steve Goodson)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
We manufacture hard rubber, resin, wood, plastic, brass, and stainless steel mouthpieces.....no problem on any of these materials..... Sent from my iPad STEVE GOODSON Saxophone Guru and Visionary New Orleans www.nationofmusic.com On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:38 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > I am polishing hard rubber clarinet mouthpieces. Perhaps you are referring to metal mouthpieces? > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > Adding to below..I find the 1500 to aggressive for polishing. > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve, I have 1500 grit emery paper and I find it too abrasive. When you refer to "lapping" is this vigourous back and forth strokes? thanks John > > > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > > > Saxophone Guru and Visionary > > > > New Orleans > > > > www.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
For final polish, I use 2-3 passes on the back side of emory paper. ________________________________ From: John <john_w_price33@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 5:35 PM Subject: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece?
FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Ditto printer paper.
--- On Fri, 12/9/11, Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 11:12 PM
I take a new sheet of printer paper, put some lubricant like vaseline on it and pass the mouthpiece dozen times.
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass
Sent from my iPad
STEVE GOODSONSaxophone Guru and VisionaryNew Orleanswww.nationofmusic.com
On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote:
How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece?
--
Sakshama
www. sakshamamouthpieces.com
FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
For metal mpcs, jeweler's rouge on a soft cloth will give you a mirror shine. I made the mistake of polishing the table too , and the reed slides like a hockey puck. I'm considering cutting crossed grooves in in my lower table to avert that problem. Can anyone see how that would be a problem? --- MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote: > Ditto printer paper. > > --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> wrote: > > From: Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 11:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I take a new sheet of printer paper, put some lubricant like vaseline on it and pass the mouthpiece dozen times. > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > Sent from my iPad > STEVE GOODSONSaxophone Guru and VisionaryNew Orleanswww.nationofmusic.com > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sakshama > > www. sakshamamouthpieces.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: frymorgan (Morgan)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I use a bit of chamois with polishing compound on. Second choice is printer paper. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? >
FROM: frymorgan (Morgan)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Grooves shouldn't be a problem once you deal with any burr raised from cutting them. But I would double check the flatness of your table first. With a flat polished table and wet reed the surface tension of the water should keep the reed stable enough IME. Reed sliding around might be a sign of a slight Berginess to the table. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, kymarto123@... wrote: > > For metal mpcs, jeweler's rouge on a soft cloth will give you a mirror shine. I made the mistake of polishing the table too , and the reed slides like a hockey puck. I'm considering cutting crossed grooves in in my lower table to avert that problem. Can anyone see how that would be a problem? > > > --- MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote: > > Ditto printer paper. > > > > --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> wrote: > > > > From: Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> > > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails > > To: MouthpieceWork@...m > > Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 11:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I take a new sheet of printer paper, put some lubricant like vaseline on it and pass the mouthpiece dozen times. > > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > Sent from my iPad > > STEVE GOODSONSaxophone Guru and VisionaryNew Orleanswww.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sakshama > > > > www. sakshamamouthpieces.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: teoenwy (Tony Fairbridge)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I use 2400 wet and dry and some dishwashing detergent for lapping. Tony F From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2011 11:39 AM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: polishing the rails I am polishing hard rubber clarinet mouthpieces. Perhaps you are referring to metal mouthpieces? --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> , "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > Adding to below..I find the 1500 to aggressive for polishing. > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> , "John" <john_w_price33@> wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, I have 1500 grit emery paper and I find it too abrasive. When you refer to "lapping" is this vigourous back and forth strokes? thanks John > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> , Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@> wrote: > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > > Saxophone Guru and Visionary > > > New Orleans > > > www.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@> wrote: > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I would say your table is slightly convex too. Otherwise, just don't polish the table this way. Rouge residue may be a lubricant. ________________________________ From: "kymarto123@..." <kymarto123@....jp> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:14 AM Subject: Re:Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails For metal mpcs, jeweler's rouge on a soft cloth will give you a mirror shine. I made the mistake of polishing the table too , and the reed slides like a hockey puck. I'm considering cutting crossed grooves in in my lower table to avert that problem. Can anyone see how that would be a problem? --- MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote: > Ditto printer paper. > > --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> wrote: > > From: Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 11:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I take a new sheet of printer paper, put some lubricant like vaseline on it and pass the mouthpiece dozen times. > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > Sent from my iPad > STEVE GOODSONSaxophone Guru and VisionaryNew Orleanswww.nationofmusic.com > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sakshama > > www. sakshamamouthpieces.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman1952)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I turn a piece of 600 or 800 silicon carbide paper over, backside up. I make several strokes polishing the table, then one or two on the facing. There is just enough very fine silicon carbide dust on the paper that it gives a very fine polish. That's it! Paul C.
FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
I concur. Your table is not flat.
--- On Sat, 12/10/11, kymarto123@ybb.ne.jp <kymarto123@...> wrote:
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Subject: Re:Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 6:14 AM
For metal mpcs, jeweler's rouge on a soft cloth will give you a mirror shine. I made the mistake of polishing the table too , and the reed slides like a hockey puck. I'm considering cutting crossed grooves in in my lower table to avert that problem. Can anyone see how that would be a problem?
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FROM: mavoss97 (Matthew Voss)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Are we talking replated pieces here or refaced? What is the point of polishing the table/rails to a mirror shine? On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:14 AM, <kymarto123@...> wrote: > ** > > > For metal mpcs, jeweler's rouge on a soft cloth will give you a mirror > shine. I made the mistake of polishing the table too , and the reed slides > like a hockey puck. I'm considering cutting crossed grooves in in my lower > table to avert that problem. Can anyone see how that would be a problem? > > > --- MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote: > > Ditto printer paper. > > > > --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> wrote: > > > > From: Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> > > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 11:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I take a new sheet of printer paper, put some lubricant like vaseline on > it and pass the mouthpiece dozen times. > > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > Sent from my iPad > > STEVE GOODSONSaxophone Guru and VisionaryNew > Orleanswww.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sakshama > > > > www. sakshamamouthpieces.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Matt www.matthewvossjazz.com
FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Yeah, it's true that the back end of the table is rounded. The major part was flat, but the butt end was not contacting the table, and that along with the smooth surface was allowing the reed to slide. Leaving the table rough also helped. No need for grooves. Thanks. --- MartinMods <lancelotburt@yahoo.com> wrote: > I concur. Your table is not flat. > > --- On Sat, 12/10/11, kymarto123@... <kymarto123@...> wrote: > > From: kymarto123@... <kymarto123@...> > Subject: Re:Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 6:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For metal mpcs, jeweler's rouge on a soft cloth will give you a mirror shine. I made the mistake of polishing the table too , and the reed slides like a hockey puck. I'm considering cutting crossed grooves in in my lower table to avert that problem. Can anyone see how that would be a problem? > > > > --- MartinMods <lancelotburt@...m> wrote: > > > Ditto printer paper. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> wrote: > > > > > > From: Sakshama Koloski <sakshama1@...> > > > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails > > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 11:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I take a new sheet of printer paper, put some lubricant like vaseline on it and pass the mouthpiece dozen times. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve Goodson <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I lap them on 1500 grit emery paper on a sheet of glass > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > STEVE GOODSONSaxophone Guru and VisionaryNew Orleanswww.nationofmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you polish the rails of a mouthpiece? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sakshama > > > > > > www. sakshamamouthpieces.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman1952)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Voss <matthewvossjazz@...> wrote: > > Are we talking replated pieces here or refaced? What is the point of > polishing the table/rails to a mirror shine? > Purely cosmetic. It looks good to your customer. Just like when your freshly repaired car is returned with greasy fingerprints and footprints on the carpet, vs. a clean car with the interior vacuumed and clean. Paul C.
FROM: mavoss97 (matthewvossjazz@...)
SUBJECT: Re: polishing the rails
Of course its purely cosmetic. Certainly not suggesting a job should be returned dirty; only that jeweler's rouge is overkill. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "tenorman1952" <tenorman1952@yahoo.com> Sender: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:08:10 To: <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] polishing the rails --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Voss <matthewvossjazz@...> wrote: > > Are we talking replated pieces here or refaced? What is the point of > polishing the table/rails to a mirror shine? > Purely cosmetic. It looks good to your customer. Just like when your freshly repaired car is returned with greasy fingerprints and footprints on the carpet, vs. a clean car with the interior vacuumed and clean. Paul C.