Mouthpiece Work / half round files for baffle work
FROM: arnoldstang3 (John)
SUBJECT: half round files for baffle work
I bought a half round file #6 cut(very fine) for working on baffles.  The point of the file is getting in my way.  Should I grind off the tip  or use a different file?
FROM: gregwier (gregwier@...)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------There is no use for pointed tips other than to scratch up the interior of your
mouthpieces \\--- john_w_price33@hotmail.com wrote: From: "John"  To:
MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] half round files for
baffle work Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:08:21 -0000 I bought a half round file
#6 cut(very fine) for working on baffles. The point of the file is getting in
my way. Should I grind off the tip or use a different file? * * * Netscape.
Just the Net You Need.
FROM: frymorgan (Morgan)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
Sure, grind it off if it's in the way.  OTOH, you may have an easier time just working farther from the tip.  I find a sharp file tip comes in handy when I widen out a very narrow window and have to redefine the corners. 
 
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote:
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> I bought a half round file #6 cut(very fine) for working on baffles.  The point of the file is getting in my way.  Should I grind off the tip  or use a different file?
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FROM: kenlphotos (kenlphotos@...)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------I rounded the tips of my files with a rounded flatish tip and use it as a
cutter in corners.

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On 12/03/11, Morgan wrote:

  
Sure, grind it off if it's in the way. OTOH, you may have an easier time just
working farther from the tip. I find a sharp file tip comes in handy when I
widen out a very narrow window and have to redefine the corners.  
  
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> I bought a half round file #6 cut(very fine) for working on baffles. The
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FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
I torch just the tip of the file and bend it around so it can't scratch anything. Then quench.  The rounded, bent end then works great for certain side wall cuts.

--- On Sat, 12/3/11, John <john_w_price33@...> wrote:

From: John <john_w_price33@...>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] half round files for baffle work
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2011, 4:08 PM








 



  


    
      
      
      I bought a half round file #6 cut(very fine) for working on baffles.  The point of the file is getting in my way.  Should I grind off the tip  or use a different file?
FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
This is a great idea. I have some curved files that I find indispensable for working on baffles and side walls. They also give you the option of working on the bottom of the chamber. 

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--- On Sat, 12/3/11, John <john_w_price33@...> wrote:

From: John <john_w_price33@...>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] half round files for baffle work
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2011, 4:08 PM








 



    
      
      
      I bought a half round file #6 cut(very fine) for working on baffles.  The point of the file is getting in my way.  Should I grind off the tip  or use a different file?
FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
Right.  Also, one can bend to suit any contour, though the teeth are not always facing the direction one would like if used in that way .  The filing motion then must allow for that.  Now I'm making my own files, burrs, and cutters, so the teeth face the direction I want.  Basic blacksmithing manuals give instructions for making files.

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From: kymarto123@ybb.ne.jp <kymarto123@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] half round files for baffle work
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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      This is a great idea. I have some curved files that I find indispensable for working on baffles and side walls. They also give you the option of working on the bottom of the chamber. 

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--- On Sat, 12/3/11, John <john_w_price33@...> wrote:

From: John <john_w_price33@...>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] half round files for baffle work
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2011, 4:08 PM








 



    
      
      
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FROM: arnoldstang3 (John)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
I have also just found some curved files....riffler files.... http://shorinternational.com/FileRiffler.htm     

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote:
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FROM: frymorgan (Morgan)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
I also use several die sinking files like this for chamber work.

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote:
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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
When you heat and bend files, do you think the metal looses some of its hardness?  Not an issure for HR and plastic but may have a shorter life for metals.


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From: Morgan <frymorgan@yahoo.com>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:43 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: half round files for baffle work


  
I also use several die sinking files like this for chamber work.

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote:
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FROM: kb180388 (Koen Bidlot)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
The metal will go back to its original state (weaker) but the heat must be more than about 800 degrees (celsius)

 

Van: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] Namens Keith Bradbury
Verzonden: zondag 4 december 2011 18:20
Aan: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: half round files for baffle work

 

  

When you heat and bend files, do you think the metal looses some of its hardness?  Not an issure for HR and plastic but may have a shorter life for metals.

 

From: Morgan <frymorgan@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:43 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: half round files for baffle work

  

I also use several die sinking files like this for chamber work.

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FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: half round files for baffle work
Quenching the red hot tip will restore the hardness of high carbon steel and tempering will keep it from being too brittle.  Case hardening will work on mild steel.  If you are concerned about the entire cutting surface of the file, heat the whole thing and quench/temper.  

Bending distorts the teeth in the bend area.  Cutting teeth (with chisel) in a pre-bent/annealed steel rod as desired and then hardening is more effective for those who just have to have custom cutting tools at scrap steel prices - $0.25/lb or less.

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From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: half round files for baffle work
To: "MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com" <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
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From: Morgan <frymorgan@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:43 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: half round files for baffle work



  

I also use several die sinking files like this for chamber work.

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "John" <john_w_price33@...> wrote:
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> I have also just found some curved files....riffler files.... http://shorinternational.com/FileRiffler.htm 
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> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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> > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] half round files for baffle work
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