Mouthpiece Work / Mouthpiece patch materials?
FROM: moeaaron (Barry Levine)
SUBJECT: Mouthpiece patch materials?
I've tried various things, as I tend to wear through the commercial patches, and they are way overpriced anyway. I don't think I bite hard, rather my upper incisors seem to pretty sharp. Anyway, I think I've finally found the right stuff - Ultra-high-density polyethylene tape. This is very tough slick stuff. http://www.amazon.com/PriceCutter-Slick-Strip-Roll/dp/B001B0VOI0/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_2 The only questions are: 1) how well does the adhesive backing stick to a mouthpiece. And 2) if the plastic wants to be perfectly flat (and high density stuff has very good "plastic memory", it may peel itself off the arched beak of a mouthpiece over time. Haven't bought it yet, because I discovered I already had something similar: 3M V-Seal Door Weather strip. This also looks to be a tough high density plastic tape. The adhesive is only on 1/2 the tape width, so I rubbed it off and stuck a patch on the mouthpiece using double-sided scotch tape (actually not scotch brand, some knock-off) and this seems to be sticking well. I did have to heat the patch a bit over an alcohol lamp and give it a curve to match the mouthpiece beak, so it wouldn't unpeel itself. Barry
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
Buy some and tell us how it works. It's just $9 + s/h. ________________________________ From: Barry Levine <barrylevine@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece patch materials? I've tried various things, as I tend to wear through the commercial patches, and they are way overpriced anyway. I don't think I bite hard, rather my upper incisors seem to pretty sharp. Anyway, I think I've finally found the right stuff - Ultra-high-density polyethylene tape. This is very tough slick stuff. http://www.amazon.com/PriceCutter-Slick-Strip-Roll/dp/B001B0VOI0/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_2 The only questions are: 1) how well does the adhesive backing stick to a mouthpiece. And 2) if the plastic wants to be perfectly flat (and high density stuff has very good "plastic memory", it may peel itself off the arched beak of a mouthpiece over time. Haven't bought it yet, because I discovered I already had something similar: 3M V-Seal Door Weather strip. This also looks to be a tough high density plastic tape. The adhesive is only on 1/2 the tape width, so I rubbed it off and stuck a patch on the mouthpiece using double-sided scotch tape (actually not scotch brand, some knock-off) and this seems to be sticking well. I did have to heat the patch a bit over an alcohol lamp and give it a curve to match the mouthpiece beak, so it wouldn't unpeel itself. Barry
FROM: satb_winds (Robert W. Smith)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
I use the Runyon patches. I apply the soft black patch first, then the tougher clear patch on top. To date, I haven't cut through one. I used to go through the black ones really fast. This combo is also working well for my students. With the tougher material on top and the softer on bottom, it gives slightly without allowing enough "traction" to bite through. On 11/17/2011 8:12 AM, Keith Bradbury wrote: > Buy some and tell us how it works. It's just $9 + s/h. > > *From:* Barry Levine <barrylevine@...> > *To:* MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:46 PM > *Subject:* [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece patch materials? > > I've tried various things, as I tend to wear through the commercial > patches, and they are way overpriced anyway. I don't think I bite hard, > rather my upper incisors seem to pretty sharp. > > Anyway, I think I've finally found the right stuff - Ultra-high-density > polyethylene tape. This is very tough slick stuff. > > http://www.amazon.com/PriceCutter-Slick-Strip-Roll/dp/B001B0VOI0/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_2 > > The only questions are: 1) how well does the adhesive backing stick to a > mouthpiece. And 2) if the plastic wants to be perfectly flat (and high > density stuff has very good "plastic memory", it may peel itself off the > arched beak of a mouthpiece over time. > > Haven't bought it yet, because I discovered I already had something > similar: 3M V-Seal Door Weather strip. This also looks to be a tough high > density plastic tape. The adhesive is only on 1/2 the tape width, so I > rubbed it off and stuck a patch on the mouthpiece using double-sided > scotch tape (actually not scotch brand, some knock-off) and this seems to > be sticking well. I did have to heat the patch a bit over an alcohol lamp > and give it a curve to match the mouthpiece beak, so it wouldn't unpeel > itself. > > Barry > > > >
FROM: silpopaar (Silverio)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
Hello, I'm using vinyl plotted as own design, so a single sticker placed two or three if you think necessary. I was never informed any allergic reactions or health complications by users. (see picture) Although I recommend for this purpose, the application of dental acrylic monomer and dust to me is the best protection for both the pulp and plastic mouthpiece as the metal. regards Silverio from Patagonia - Argentina
FROM: jazzmanted (Ted Kutzer)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
On clarinet mouthpieces I used to cut up ebonettes rubber gloves. I do not know if they are made any more but they work great.The rubber itself grips the mouthpiece. ________________________________ From: Robert W. Smith <rwpsmith@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece patch materials? I use the Runyon patches. I apply the soft black patch first, then the tougher clear patch on top. To date, I haven't cut through one. I used to go through the black ones really fast. This combo is also working well for my students. With the tougher material on top and the softer on bottom, it gives slightly without allowing enough "traction" to bite through. On 11/17/2011 8:12 AM, Keith Bradbury wrote: >Buy some and tell us how it works. It's just $9 + s/h. > > >From: Barry Levine <barrylevine@...> >To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:46 PM >Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece patch materials? > > > >I've tried various things, as I tend to wear through the commercial >patches, and they are way overpriced anyway. I don't think I bite hard, >rather my upper incisors seem to pretty sharp. > >Anyway, I think I've finally found the right stuff - Ultra-high-density >polyethylene tape. This is very tough slick stuff. > >http://www.amazon.com/PriceCutter-Slick-Strip-Roll/dp/B001B0VOI0/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_2 > >The only questions are: 1) how well does the adhesive backing stick to a >mouthpiece. And 2) if the plastic wants to be perfectly flat (and high >density stuff has very good "plastic memory", it may peel itself off the >arched beak of a mouthpiece over time. > >Haven't bought it yet, because I discovered I already had something >similar: 3M V-Seal Door Weather strip. This also looks to be a tough high >density plastic tape. The adhesive is only on 1/2 the tape width, so I >rubbed it off and stuck a patch on the mouthpiece using double-sided >scotch tape (actually not scotch brand, some knock-off) and this seems to >be sticking well. I did have to heat the patch a bit over an alcohol lamp >and give it a curve to match the mouthpiece beak, so it wouldn't unpeel >itself. > >Barry > > > >
FROM: frymorgan (Morgan)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
I've been using polyurethane tape for some time. 3M 8671HS is the stuff, markedted over here as 'helicopter tape'. Tough and comfortable and thin. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Levine" <barrylevine@...> wrote: > > I've tried various things, as I tend to wear through the commercial > patches, and they are way overpriced anyway. I don't think I bite hard, > rather my upper incisors seem to pretty sharp. > > Anyway, I think I've finally found the right stuff - Ultra-high-density > polyethylene tape. This is very tough slick stuff. > > http://www.amazon.com/PriceCutter-Slick-Strip-Roll/dp/B001B0VOI0/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_2 > > The only questions are: 1) how well does the adhesive backing stick to a > mouthpiece. And 2) if the plastic wants to be perfectly flat (and high > density stuff has very good "plastic memory", it may peel itself off the > arched beak of a mouthpiece over time. > > Haven't bought it yet, because I discovered I already had something > similar: 3M V-Seal Door Weather strip. This also looks to be a tough high > density plastic tape. The adhesive is only on 1/2 the tape width, so I > rubbed it off and stuck a patch on the mouthpiece using double-sided > scotch tape (actually not scotch brand, some knock-off) and this seems to > be sticking well. I did have to heat the patch a bit over an alcohol lamp > and give it a curve to match the mouthpiece beak, so it wouldn't unpeel > itself. > > Barry >
FROM: jimmitch47 (jamesm)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
From Jimmitch The Runyon patches work great for me also. They last for years. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Robert W. Smith" <rwpsmith@...> wrote: > > I use the Runyon patches. I apply the soft black patch first, then the > tougher clear patch on top. To date, I haven't cut through one. I used > to go through the black ones really fast. This combo is also working > well for my students. With the tougher material on top and the softer > on bottom, it gives slightly without allowing enough "traction" to bite > through. > > On 11/17/2011 8:12 AM, Keith Bradbury wrote: > > Buy some and tell us how it works. It's just $9 + s/h. > > > > *From:* Barry Levine <barrylevine@...> > > *To:* MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:46 PM > > *Subject:* [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece patch materials? > > > > I've tried various things, as I tend to wear through the commercial > > patches, and they are way overpriced anyway. I don't think I bite hard, > > rather my upper incisors seem to pretty sharp. > > > > Anyway, I think I've finally found the right stuff - Ultra-high-density > > polyethylene tape. This is very tough slick stuff. > > > > http://www.amazon.com/PriceCutter-Slick-Strip-Roll/dp/B001B0VOI0/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_2 > > > > The only questions are: 1) how well does the adhesive backing stick to a > > mouthpiece. And 2) if the plastic wants to be perfectly flat (and high > > density stuff has very good "plastic memory", it may peel itself off the > > arched beak of a mouthpiece over time. > > > > Haven't bought it yet, because I discovered I already had something > > similar: 3M V-Seal Door Weather strip. This also looks to be a tough high > > density plastic tape. The adhesive is only on 1/2 the tape width, so I > > rubbed it off and stuck a patch on the mouthpiece using double-sided > > scotch tape (actually not scotch brand, some knock-off) and this seems to > > be sticking well. I did have to heat the patch a bit over an alcohol lamp > > and give it a curve to match the mouthpiece beak, so it wouldn't unpeel > > itself. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > >
FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman1952)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "jamesm" <jimmitch47@...> wrote: > > From Jimmitch The Runyon patches work great for me also. They last for years. > For people who like the thicker, softer black rubber patch, but have problem cutting through, years ago Santy Runyon showed me the trick of putting the tougher clear patch over the black rubber patch. They are cut on the same die cutting tools and are the same size and shape. With a twinkle in his eye and smile he said, "... but if this gets around they won't buy so many black patches." The same patches are sold under both the Runyon and Selmer labels, as are the Runyon Side Key Riser and Palm Key Risers, Clarinet and Sax Thumb Savers, and other small accessories. Paul C.
FROM: jdtoddjazz (jeff)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
Morgan, Where do you get it in an affordable format? I have checked a few places and it seems you have to buy in bulk. Thanks, Jeff --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Morgan" <frymorgan@...> wrote: > > I've been using polyurethane tape for some time. 3M 8671HS is the stuff, markedted over here as 'helicopter tape'. Tough and comfortable and thin.
FROM: egfurre (EgilF.)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece patch materials?
I buy patches from Mike Hughes and put on every mouthpiece I reface. His patches are really thin, so the mouthpiece feels almost like it patchless. It has a "hygiene layer", than also makes is easier to line up the patch. And they are cheap. Mike Hughes "FAM Enterprise" mpc-patch@... --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "jeff" <jdtoddjazz@...> wrote: > > Morgan, > > Where do you get it in an affordable format? I have checked a few places and it seems you have to buy in bulk. Thanks, Jeff > > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Morgan" <frymorgan@> wrote: > > > > I've been using polyurethane tape for some time. 3M 8671HS is the stuff, markedted over here as 'helicopter tape'. Tough and comfortable and thin. >