A band member wants to replace the worn Selmer alto sax mouthpiece they have had for years. It has a scroll shank, little round chamber, marked LT (Larry Teal?). WWBW.com sold her a S80 180 in a 170 box (170 is the size the player ordered - nice sales) because "that's the closest they make." I see new Larry Teal mouthpieces now. Are they close to the vintage inside on the facing? The square chamber etc. does not work for this player. I found them on Google. They are expensive, but nothing else might ever work for this player.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=larry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw09&bih`5&wrapid=tlif130690184977210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid348094985682617660&sa=X&ei=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&vedCwQ8wIwAQ#

Thanks!
E v e r e t t F i d l e r

Yes LT is Larry Teal. Fom what I read, can't remember where, Teal used the original soloist with the round chamber. When Selmer changed to the horseshoe chamber he complained that it had affected the sound advesely and persuaded them to make round chambered LT models... 

Afik the facings were the same. 

The S80 plays and sounds vey different to the soloists. 

If it's just the facing that's the issue here, perhaps a modern soloist with a horseshoe chamber will work, for alto a 170 would translate into C*.  

Ed Pillinge makes soloist replicas, but they have the horseshoe chamber (at least the one I have does). May be worth contacting him or another maker to see if they'll reproduce the LT. 

Another alternative may be to find a Brilhart Personaline W. These are white and have a brown, round bite plate built in. (aka Personaline Tonalin), these have a vey sweet core sound. But they're not too common and can be expensive. The 5 facing is about the same opening as the C* (.070", cf .067"). Watch for cracked shanks on these. 
 

Kev

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "fidlershorns" <grassinospam@...> wrote:
>
> A band member wants to replace the worn Selmer alto sax mouthpiece they have had for years. It has a scroll shank, little round chamber, marked LT (Larry Teal?). WWBW.com sold her a S80 180 in a 170 box (170 is the size the player ordered - nice sales) because "that's the closest they make." I see new Larry Teal mouthpieces now. Are they close to the vintage inside on the facing? The square chamber etc. does not work for this player. I found them on Google. They are expensive, but nothing else might ever work for this player.
> 
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=larry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw09&bih`5&wrapid=tlif130690184977210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid348094985682617660&sa=X&ei=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&vedCwQ8wIwAQ#
> 
> Thanks!
> E v e r e t t F i d l e r
>

I would consider a Vandoren V5 or Optimum series piece.  Both have traditional round chambers.




Matthew Voss

Manager Post Closing Shipper

Sterling National Mortgage Company, Inc.
A Subsidiary of Sterling National Bank

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From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kevinelliott
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:25 AM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Selmer Alto sax mouthpiece question



Yes LT is Larry Teal. Fom what I read, can't remember where, Teal used the original soloist with the round chamber. When Selmer changed to the horseshoe chamber he complained that it had affected the sound advesely and persuaded them to make round chambered LT models...

Afik the facings were the same.

The S80 plays and sounds vey different to the soloists.

If it's just the facing that's the issue here, perhaps a modern soloist with a horseshoe chamber will work, for alto a 170 would translate into C*.

Ed Pillinge makes soloist replicas, but they have the horseshoe chamber (at least the one I have does). May be worth contacting him or another maker to see if they'll reproduce the LT.

Another alternative may be to find a Brilhart Personaline W. These are white and have a brown, round bite plate built in. (aka Personaline Tonalin), these have a vey sweet core sound. But they're not too common and can be expensive. The 5 facing is about the same opening as the C* (.070", cf .067"). Watch for cracked shanks on these.


Kev

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "fidlershorns"  wrote:
>
> A band member wants to replace the worn Selmer alto sax mouthpiece they have had for years. It has a scroll shank, little round chamber, marked LT (Larry Teal?). WWBW.com sold her a S80 180 in a 170 box (170 is the size the player ordered - nice sales) because "that's the closest they make." I see new Larry Teal mouthpieces now. Are they close to the vintage inside on the facing? The square chamber etc. does not work for this player. I found them on Google. They are expensive, but nothing else might ever work for this player.
>
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=larry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw09&bih`5&wrapid=tlif130690184977210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid348094985682617660&sa=X&ei=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&vedCwQ8wIwAQ#
>
> Thanks!
> E v e r e t t F i d l e r
>

The Caravan mouthpieces have a "traditional" round chamber design.

On 6/1/2011 1:24 AM, kevinelliott wrote:
>
> Yes LT is Larry Teal. Fom what I read, can't remember where, Teal used 
> the original soloist with the round chamber. When Selmer changed to 
> the horseshoe chamber he complained that it had affected the sound 
> advesely and persuaded them to make round chambered LT models...
>
> Afik the facings were the same.
>
> The S80 plays and sounds vey different to the soloists.
>
> If it's just the facing that's the issue here, perhaps a modern 
> soloist with a horseshoe chamber will work, for alto a 170 would 
> translate into C*.
>
> Ed Pillinge makes soloist replicas, but they have the horseshoe 
> chamber (at least the one I have does). May be worth contacting him or 
> another maker to see if they'll reproduce the LT.
>
> Another alternative may be to find a Brilhart Personaline W. These are 
> white and have a brown, round bite plate built in. (aka Personaline 
> Tonalin), these have a vey sweet core sound. But they're not too 
> common and can be expensive. The 5 facing is about the same opening as 
> the C* (.070", cf .067"). Watch for cracked shanks on these.
>
>
> Kev
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>, "fidlershorns" 
> <grassinospam@...> wrote:
> >
> > A band member wants to replace the worn Selmer alto sax mouthpiece 
> they have had for years. It has a scroll shank, little round chamber, 
> marked LT (Larry Teal?). WWBW.com sold her a S80 180 in a 170 box (170 
> is the size the player ordered - nice sales) because "that's the 
> closest they make." I see new Larry Teal mouthpieces now. Are they 
> close to the vintage inside on the facing? The square chamber etc. 
> does not work for this player. I found them on Google. They are 
> expensive, but nothing else might ever work for this player.
> >
> > 
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=larry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw09&bih`5&wrapid=tlif130690184977210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid348094985682617660&sa=X&ei=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&vedCwQ8wIwAQ# 
> <http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=larry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw09&bih`5&wrapid=tlif130690184977210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid348094985682617660&sa=X&ei=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&vedCwQ8wIwAQ#>
> >
> > Thanks!
> > E v e r e t t F i d l e r
> >
>
> 

am I correct that the Larry Teal had a longer facing curve than the  
other Selmer models?


On Jun 1, 2011, at 7:03 AM, Voss, Matthew wrote:

>
>
>
> I would consider a Vandoren V5 or Optimum series piece.  Both have  
> traditional round chambers.
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthew Voss
>
> Manager Post Closing Shipper
>
> Sterling National Mortgage Company, Inc.
> A Subsidiary of Sterling National Bank
>
> 98 Cuttermill Road
>
> Great Neck NY 11021-3006
>
> 516-487-0018 Phone
> 516-570-4674 Fax
> Matthew.Voss@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of kevinelliott
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:25 AM
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Selmer Alto sax mouthpiece question
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes LT is Larry Teal. Fom what I read, can't remember where, Teal  
> used the original soloist with the round chamber. When Selmer  
> changed to the horseshoe chamber he complained that it had affected  
> the sound advesely and persuaded them to make round chambered LT  
> models...
>
> Afik the facings were the same.
>
> The S80 plays and sounds vey different to the soloists.
>
> If it's just the facing that's the issue here, perhaps a modern  
> soloist with a horseshoe chamber will work, for alto a 170 would  
> translate into C*.
>
> Ed Pillinge makes soloist replicas, but they have the horseshoe  
> chamber (at least the one I have does). May be worth contacting him  
> or another maker to see if they'll reproduce the LT.
>
> Another alternative may be to find a Brilhart Personaline W. These  
> are white and have a brown, round bite plate built in. (aka  
> Personaline Tonalin), these have a vey sweet core sound. But they're  
> not too common and can be expensive. The 5 facing is about the same  
> opening as the C* (.070", cf .067"). Watch for cracked shanks on  
> these.
>
>
> Kev
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "fidlershorns"  
> <grassinospam@...> wrote:
> >
> > A band member wants to replace the worn Selmer alto sax mouthpiece  
> they have had for years. It has a scroll shank, little round  
> chamber, marked LT (Larry Teal?). WWBW.com sold her a S80 180 in a  
> 170 box (170 is the size the player ordered - nice sales) because  
> "that's the closest they make." I see new Larry Teal mouthpieces  
> now. Are they close to the vintage inside on the facing? The square  
> chamber etc. does not work for this player. I found them on Google.  
> They are expensive, but nothing else might ever work for this player.
> >
> > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=larry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw09&bih`5&wrapid=tlif130690184977210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid348094985682617660&sa=X&ei=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&vedCwQ8wIwAQ#
> >
> > Thanks!
> > E v e r e t t F i d l e r
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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>> Yes LT is Larry Teal. Fom what I read, can't remember where, Teal used the
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>  
>  Afik the facings were the same.�  
>  
>  The S80 plays and sounds vey different to the soloists.�  
>  
>  If it's just the facing that's the issue here, perhaps a modern soloist
> with a horseshoe chamber will work, for alto a 170 would translate into C*.�  
>  
>  Ed Pillinge makes soloist replicas, but they have the horseshoe chamber (at
> least the one I have does). May be worth contacting him or another maker to
> see if they'll reproduce the LT.�  
>  
>  Another alternative may be to find a Brilhart Personaline W. These are
> white and have a brown, round bite plate built in. (aka Personaline
> Tonalin), these have a vey sweet core sound. But they're not too common and
> can be expensive. The 5 facing is about the same opening as the C* (.070",
> cf .067"). Watch for cracked shanks on these.�  
>  
>  
>  Kev  
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> "fidlershorns" [](mailto:grassinospam@...) wrote:  
>  >  
>  > A band member wants to replace the worn Selmer alto sax mouthpiece they
> have had for years. It has a scroll shank, little round chamber, marked LT
> (Larry Teal?). WWBW.com sold her a S80 180 in a 170 box (170 is the size the
> player ordered - nice sales) because "that's the closest they make." I see
> new Larry Teal mouthpieces now. Are they close to the vintage inside on the
> facing? The square chamber etc. does not work for this player. I found them
> on Google. They are expensive, but nothing else might ever work for this
> player.  
>  >�  
>
> >�[http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q;=larry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav;=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw;=1209&bih;=605&wrapid;=tlif130690184977210&um;=1&ie;=UTF-8&tbm;=shop&cid;=17348094985682617660&sa;=X&ei;=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&ved;=0CCwQ8wIwAQ#](http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=la%21%0A%20rry+teal+mouthpiece+alto+sax&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1209&bih=605&wrapid=tlif130690184977210&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=17348094985682617660&sa=X&ei=ZL3lTeW1OsHt0gGHmZDyCg&ved=0CCwQ8wIwAQ)  
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>  > Thanks!  
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--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "kevinelliott" <kevinelliott@...> wrote:
>
> Yes LT is Larry Teal. Fom what I read, can't remember where, Teal used the original soloist with the round chamber. When Selmer changed to the horseshoe chamber he complained that it had affected the sound advesely and persuaded them to make round chambered LT models... 
> 
> Afik the facings were the same. 
> 
> The S80 plays and sounds vey different to the soloists. 
> 
> If it's just the facing that's the issue here, perhaps a modern soloist with a horseshoe chamber will work, for alto a 170 would translate into C*.  
> 
> Ed Pillinge makes soloist replicas, but they have the horseshoe chamber (at least the one I have does). May be worth contacting him or another maker to see if they'll reproduce the LT. 
> 
> Another alternative may be to find a Brilhart Personaline W. These are white and have a brown, round bite plate built in. (aka Personaline Tonalin), these have a vey sweet core sound. But they're not too common and can be expensive. The 5 facing is about the same opening as the C* (.070", cf .067"). Watch for cracked shanks on these. 
>  
> 
> Kev

Actually, the LT's had a very small tip opening, I think .060"-.062" for the alto, and .066" for the tenor.  The facings were supposed to be longer than the C* facing, and these mouthpieces required a very hard reed.

The LT's round chamber was the same as the Selmer metal classical mouthpiece.

Paul

I measured an alto LT in 2007.  The tip was .068" and the .0015" facing length 
was 41.