I posted a new video on Measuring Facing Curves and Correcting a Crooked Tip.  It is on my Facebook page.  One of these Links should work.  If not, go to my site and click on "Facebook".

http://www.facebook.com/kwbradbury?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=483666854306

http://www.facebook.com/pages/edit/?id=342774316153&sk=basic#!/mojomouthpiecework

a great job on the video, Keith.....thanks for sharing your skills and  
knowledge





On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:15 AM, MojoBari wrote:

> I posted a new video on Measuring Facing Curves and Correcting a  
> Crooked Tip. It is on my Facebook page. One of these Links should  
> work. If not, go to my site and click on "Facebook".
>
> http://www.facebook.com/kwbradbury?v=app_2392950137#!/video/ 
> video.php?v=483666854306
>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/edit/?id=342774316153&sk=basic#!/ 
> mojomouthpiecework
>
>
> 

This is showing as "unavailable" now.  I'd like to see it.  :)

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "MojoBari" <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> I posted a new video on Measuring Facing Curves and Correcting a Crooked Tip.  It is on my Facebook page.  One of these Links should work.  If not, go to my site and click on "Facebook".
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/kwbradbury?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=483666854306
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/edit/?id=342774316153&sk=basic#!/mojomouthpiecework
>

I did not make it unavailable.  Perhaps a Facebook glitch.  Did you try going 
through my site at mojomouthpiecework.com ?




________________________________
From: Steve Keller <esteban_cadenza@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 5:27:09 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Measuring Facing Curves - Video

  
This is showing as "unavailable" now. I'd like to see it. :)

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "MojoBari" <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> I posted a new video on Measuring Facing Curves and Correcting a Crooked Tip. 
>It is on my Facebook page. One of these Links should work. If not, go to my site 
>and click on "Facebook".
> 
>http://www.facebook.com/kwbradbury?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=483666854306
>6
> 
>http://www.facebook.com/pages/edit/?id=342774316153&sk=basic#!/mojomouthpiecework
>k
>





      

I think I need to upload the videos again to my Fan page. I have them uploaded to my personal page and I linked them to my Fan page.  Doing it this way does not make them available the way I intended them to be.  I'll try to fix it in a day or two.

Will this make it so I don't have to join Facebook to see them?

Tom

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MojoBari 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:38 PM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Measuring Facing Curves - Video


    
  I think I need to upload the videos again to my Fan page. I have them uploaded to my personal page and I linked them to my Fan page. Doing it this way does not make them available the way I intended them to be. I'll try to fix it in a day or two.



  

I think so.




________________________________
From: Tom De Winter <tdewinter@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 7:55:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Measuring Facing Curves - Video

  
Will this make it so I don't have to join Facebook to see them?
 
Tom

----- Original Message ----- 
>From: MojoBari 
>To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:38 PM
>Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Measuring Facing Curves - Video
>
>  
>I think I need to upload the videos again to my Fan page. I have them uploaded 
>to my personal page and I linked them to my Fan page. Doing it this way does not 
>make them available the way I intended them to be. I'll try to fix it in a day 
>or two.
>
>



      

I had to split it up.  I probably could have done it in two pieces but it evolved into three.

http://www.facebook.com/mojomouthpiecework

Here is the complete video via the FlipShare service.

http://www.flipshare.com/ViewReshare.aspx?i=f34e45e8-be08-45e2-8f57-43e9cbc70902&s=17972740&emt=&emt=a28bdd9c-c079-4685-b42b-ddc805c86f68

 
Mojo Mouthpiece Work LLC
2925 Crane St., Vineland, NJ 08361 
Paypal to sabradbury79@... 
Check out: http://www.MojoMouthpieceWork.com
...and: http://www.facebook.com/mojomouthpiecework



      

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> Here is the complete video via the FlipShare service.
> 
> http://www.flipshare.com/ViewReshare.aspx?i=f34e45e8-be08-45e2-8f57-43e9cbc70902&s=17972740&emt=&emt=a28bdd9c-c079-4685-b42b-ddc805c86f68
> 
>  
> Mojo Mouthpiece Work LLC
> 2925 Crane St., Vineland, NJ 08361 
> Paypal to sabradbury79@... 
> Check out: http://www.MojoMouthpieceWork.com
> ...and: http://www.facebook.com/mojomouthpiecework
>
An excellent video with good audio commentary.
The only point I was unclear about, was the sanding of the inner rail edges. 
I have always left them sharp, in the belief that rounding them, may in some way, do something adverse to the response.
Rounding of the inner tip rail edge being another instance, though this may be of much more significance. 
Some clarification is needed I think.
Eddie.

I do not think this is an important area to be concerned with.  I generally 
"break" all sharp edges which is a machinists term for lightly chamfering or 
rounding them so you do not cut yourself.  Usually not a problem except on metal 
mouthpieces.  


I have seen a few heavily rounded side rails, which I think were experiments 
gone wrong.  


You can make a few mouthpieces with sharp and rounded rails and get a few 
players to try them blind.  

________________________________

From: Edward McLean ed@ewmclean.plus.com

An excellent video with good audio commentary.
The only point I was unclear about, was the sanding of the inner rail edges. 
I have always left them sharp, in the belief that rounding them, may in some 
way, do something adverse to the response.
Rounding of the inner tip rail edge being another instance, though this may be 
of much more significance. 

Some clarification is needed I think.
Eddie.



      

  Keith,

I really appreciate the videos you have made available to us. Do you 
know a source for the thicker feeler guages?

Herb Thompson



> 

http://www.mitchellstore.com/

http://www.easterngage.com/




________________________________
From: Herb Thompson <eherbthompson@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 11:04:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Measuring Facing Curves - Video

  
Keith,

I really appreciate the videos you have made available to us. Do you know a 
source for the thicker feeler guages?

Herb Thompson









      

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> I do not think this is an important area to be concerned with.  I generally 
> "break" all sharp edges which is a machinists term for lightly chamfering or 
> rounding them so you do not cut yourself.  Usually not a problem except on metal 
> mouthpieces.  
> 
> 
> I have seen a few heavily rounded side rails, which I think were experiments 
> gone wrong.  
> 
> 
> You can make a few mouthpieces with sharp and rounded rails and get a few 
> players to try them blind.  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Edward McLean ed@...
> 
> An excellent video with good audio commentary.
> The only point I was unclear about, was the sanding of the inner rail edges. 
> I have always left them sharp, in the belief that rounding them, may in some 
> way, do something adverse to the response.
> Rounding of the inner tip rail edge being another instance, though this may be 
> of much more significance. 
> 
> Some clarification is needed I think.
> Eddie.
>
Thank you Keith for your comments. I had not considered the danger of sharp metal edges. A rounding is also more pleasant to the eye.
Eddie.

Thanks Keith, for putting this up.  You have such a no-nonsense way of saying things, seeing what you do on video only reinforces your matter-of-fact style.  

You are doing a great service for those of us who work on their own mouthpieces, but are not professional mouthpiece refacers.  I find it very satisfying that my instincts (and the Eric Brand manual!) have led me to use the same techniques that you employ in this video, letting me know I am on the right track. 

Thanks again,
Steve Keller

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "MojoBari" <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> I had to split it up.  I probably could have done it in two pieces but it evolved into three.
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/mojomouthpiecework
>

Hi Keith,
i'd like to buy a complete mouthpiece measuring kit (feeler, tip opening and 
glass gauges).
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks a lot
Valerio



      

Just as there is no single best mouthpiece for everyone, there is no single best 
kit or vendor for refacing gages and tools.  The Yahoo Mouthpiece Work site has 
files and links for suppliers.

For tip openings, I use a machinist's depth gage with a 6" long base.  The 6" 
base is not easy to find new or used.  4" is not long enough.  There base that 
is like the 6" base but with one end cut off called a half base.  But these are 
hard to find in 3-3.5" lengths.  


I have also use a Fowler dial tip gage and a similar gage LAW made for me with a 
pointed tip probe.  I have also used digital inside calipers along with the back 
of a glass gage held against the table to measure tip openings.  It is a bit 
tricky but can be done.

As I have previously said, I prefer Babbitt and LAW glass gages.  I have not 
seen the Wanne gages up close but I would expect them to be good too.  


Mitchell Store has the most complete set of feelers out there now.  His tip gage 
might be OK.  I purchased a base similar to the one he uses and I did not care 
for the shape of its table contact surface.  It has two parallel rails on it.  
If he machines this flat before selling it, it would be good.  


Digital micrometers (or at least calipers) are good for checking the quality of 
your feeler gages.  Measure them in several spots along the edge you will be 
using to find out their actual size and if they are tapered at all.  I measure 
mine to the nearest .0001" several time and average the result.  I then use 
this number in my spreadsheet.  It is a bit "anal" but it does not hurt anything 
and in some cases may help.  I have one gage that high and the next one was low 
by ~.0005" which was a significant .001" gap change IMO.




________________________________
From: Valerio Pontrandolfo <valpontra@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:30:04 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece measuring kit

  
Hi Keith,
i'd like to buy a complete mouthpiece measuring kit (feeler, tip opening and 
glass gauges).
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks a lot
Valerio





      

  The Music Medic tip gauge works pretty well for a "budget" minded 
shop.  Very simple to use, and when I got mine, I did a quick accuracy 
check with "known" tip openings on pieces that had just been re-faced by 
Paul Coates.  It was right on the money!

On 9/11/2010 10:47 AM, Keith Bradbury wrote:
> Just as there is no single best mouthpiece for everyone, there is no 
> single best kit or vendor for refacing gages and tools.  The Yahoo 
> Mouthpiece Work site has files and links for suppliers.
> For tip openings, I use a machinist's depth gage with a 6" long base.  
> The 6" base is not easy to find new or used.  4" is not long enough.  
> There base that is like the 6" base but with one end cut off called a 
> half base.  But these are hard to find in 3-3.5" lengths.
> I have also use a Fowler dial tip gage and a similar gage LAW made for 
> me with a pointed tip probe.  I have also used digital inside calipers 
> along with the back of a glass gage held against the table to measure 
> tip openings.  It is a bit tricky but can be done.
> As I have previously said, I prefer Babbitt and LAW glass gages.  I 
> have not seen the Wanne gages up close but I would expect them to be 
> good too.
> Mitchell Store has the most complete set of feelers out there now.  
> His tip gage might be OK.  I purchased a base similar to the one he 
> uses and I did not care for the shape of its table contact surface.  
> It has two parallel rails on it.  If he machines this flat before 
> selling it, it would be good.
> Digital micrometers (or at least calipers) are good for checking the 
> quality of your feeler gages.  Measure them in several spots along the 
> edge you will be using to find out their actual size and if they are 
> tapered at all.  I measure mine to the nearest .0001" several time and 
> average the result.  I then use this number in my spreadsheet.  It is 
> a bit "anal" but it does not hurt anything and in some cases may 
> help.  I have one gage that high and the next one was low by ~.0005" 
> which was a significant .001" gap change IMO.
>
> *From:* Valerio Pontrandolfo <valpontra@...>
> *To:* MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sat, September 11, 2010 7:30:04 AM
> *Subject:* [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece measuring kit
>
> Hi Keith,
> i'd like to buy a complete mouthpiece measuring kit (feeler, tip 
> opening and glass gauges).
> Do you have any suggestions?
> Thanks a lot
> Valerio
>
>
> 

Hi Keith,
thanks a lot...how can i get the LAW glass gauge from you?
Valerio




________________________________
Da: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@yahoo.com>
A: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Inviato: Sab 11 settembre 2010, 17:47:00
Oggetto: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece measuring kit

   
Just as there is no single best mouthpiece for everyone, there is no single best 
kit or vendor for refacing gages and tools.  The Yahoo Mouthpiece Work site has 
files and links for suppliers.
 
For tip openings, I use a machinist's depth gage with a 6" long base.  The 6" 
base is not easy to find new or used.  4" is not long enough.  There base that 
is like the 6" base but with one end cut off called a half base.  But these are 
hard to find in 3-3.5" lengths.  

 
I have also use a Fowler dial tip gage and a similar gage LAW made for me with a 
pointed tip probe.  I have also used digital inside calipers along with the back 
of a glass gage held against the table to measure tip openings.  It is a bit 
tricky but can be done.
 
As I have previously said, I prefer Babbitt and LAW glass gages.  I have not 
seen the Wanne gages up close but I would expect them to be good too.  

 
Mitchell Store has the most complete set of feelers out there now.  His tip gage 
might be OK.  I purchased a base similar to the one he uses and I did not care 
for the shape of its table contact surface.  It has two parallel rails on it.  
If he machines this flat before selling it, it would be good.  

 
Digital micrometers (or at least calipers) are good for checking the quality of 
your feeler gages.  Measure them in several spots along the edge you will be 
using to find out their actual size and if they are tapered at all.  I measure 
mine to the nearest .0001" several time and average the result.  I then use 
this number in my spreadsheet.  It is a bit "anal" but it does not hurt anything 
and in some cases may help.  I have one gage that high and the next one was low 
by ~.0005" which was a significant .001" gap change IMO.




________________________________
 From: Valerio Pontrandolfo <valpontra@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:30:04 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece measuring kit

  
Hi Keith,
i'd like to buy a complete mouthpiece measuring kit (feeler, tip opening and 
glass gauges).
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks a lot
Valerio



 


      

Contact me via mojomouthpiecework@...

In the US, it is $25 + $4 s/h.  Check otr Paypal.

 
Mojo Mouthpiece Work LLC
2925 Crane St., Vineland, NJ 08361 
Paypal to sabradbury79@... 
Check out: http://www.MojoMouthpieceWork.com
...and: http://www.facebook.com/mojomouthpiecework




________________________________
From: Valerio Pontrandolfo <valpontra@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 6:20:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece measuring kit

  
Hi Keith,
thanks a lot...how can i get the LAW glass gauge from you?
Valerio




________________________________
Da: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
A: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Inviato: Sab 11 settembre 2010, 17:47:00
Oggetto: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece measuring kit

  
Just as there is no single best mouthpiece for everyone, there is no single best 
kit or vendor for refacing gages and tools.  The Yahoo Mouthpiece Work site has 
files and links for suppliers.

For tip openings, I use a machinist's depth gage with a 6" long base.  The 6" 
base is not easy to find new or used.  4" is not long enough.  There base that 
is like the 6" base but with one end cut off called a half base.  But these are 
hard to find in 3-3.5" lengths.  


I have also use a Fowler dial tip gage and a similar gage LAW made for me with a 
pointed tip probe.  I have also used digital inside calipers along with the back 
of a glass gage held against the table to measure tip openings.  It is a bit 
tricky but can be done.

As I have previously said, I prefer Babbitt and LAW glass gages.  I have not 
seen the Wanne gages up close but I would expect them to be good too.  


Mitchell Store has the most complete set of feelers out there now.  His tip gage 
might be OK.  I purchased a base similar to the one he uses and I did not care 
for the shape of its table contact surface.  It has two parallel rails on it.  
If he machines this flat before selling it, it would be good.  


Digital micrometers (or at least calipers) are good for checking the quality of 
your feeler gages.  Measure them in several spots along the edge you will be 
using to find out their actual size and if they are tapered at all.  I measure 
mine to the nearest .0001" several time and average the result.  I then use 
this number in my spreadsheet.  It is a bit "anal" but it does not hurt anything 
and in some cases may help.  I have one gage that high and the next one was low 
by ~.0005" which was a significant .001" gap change IMO.




________________________________
From: Valerio Pontrandolfo <valpontra@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 7:30:04 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece measuring kit

  
Hi Keith,
i'd like to buy a complete mouthpiece measuring kit (feeler, tip opening and 
glass gauges).
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks a lot
Valerio