Mouthpiece Work / endless acoustic discussion
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: endless acoustic discussion
I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc STEVE GOODSON SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS our products are ALL rated cid:339191121@25022009-09F4 Steve is a member of hd_logo NAMMbelieve2nasaconf_GIF PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES <http://www.nationofmusic.com/> http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) <http://www.saxgourmet.com/> http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) <http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/> http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
John, let's take the discussion offline. Lance, I'll cc you. If anyone else wishes to be included let us know.
Toby
STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only$B!D!D(B.of course, it$B!G(Bs not my group, it$B!G(Bs Keith$B!G(Bs, but I don$B!G(Bt think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose$B!D!D(BI do think the discussion of acoustics is
appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject.
sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
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http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog)
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IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR
IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR
IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT
LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR
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FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Steve, thanks for establishing the group, but I don't have a clue how to subscribe. It was not mentioned in your message before on starting the group.
Toby
kymarto123@... wrote: John, let's take the discussion offline. Lance, I'll cc you. If anyone else wishes to be included let us know.
Toby
STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only$B!D!D(B.of course, it$B!G(Bs not my group, it$B!G(Bs Keith$B!G(Bs, but I don$B!G(Bt think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose$B!D!D(BI do think the discussion of acoustics is
appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject.
sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
our products are ALL rated
Steve is a member of
PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group)
http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information)
http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog)
READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves
BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR
IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR
IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR
IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT
LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson
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FROM: teoenwy (Tony F.)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area.
Tony F.
----- Original Message -----
From: STEVE GOODSON
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion
I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject.
sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
our products are ALL rated
Steve is a member of
PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group)
http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information)
http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog)
READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves
BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR
IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR
IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR
IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT
LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson
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FROM: jbtsax (John)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other woodwinds, I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it leaves the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group. 1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics or joining in the discussions of existing threads. 2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in why woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads and read those of more interest to them. 3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like and leave the rest. It is that simple. John --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote: > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > Tony F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: STEVE GOODSON > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > STEVE GOODSON > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >
FROM: sakshama1 (Sakshama Koloski)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Count me in. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:06 PM, STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@cox.net> wrote: > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece > refacing and mouthpiece refacing only…….of course, it’s not my group, it’s > Keith’s, but I don’t think I am alone in wanting to return to the original > stated purpose……I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and > interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be > interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > * * > > *sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc*** > > *STEVE GOODSON* > > *SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS * > > * * > > *our products are ALL rated * > > * * > > *[image: cid:339191121@25022009-09F4]* > > * * > > *Steve is a member of* > > *[image: hd_logo] [image: NAMMbelieve2][image: nasaconf_GIF]* > > > > ** > > *PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog)* > > * * > > *READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF **THE SAXOPHONE > JOURNAL > *The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > hallway where thieves > > *BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR* > > *IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR* > > *IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR* > > *IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT * > > *LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN* > > *YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR* > > * * > > *The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's > also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson* > > * *** > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail > and destroy all copies of the original message*. > > > >
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
You subscribe to my saxophone acoustics group in EXACTLY the same fashion as you used to join this group. Go to Yahoo groups, search for "saxophone acoustics", join the group, I'll approve your membership, and we can continue the discussion there. I established this group because I think this discussion is important and quite interesting to me and I am sure many other people. I've learned a lot from you, Toby, and have a huge amount of respect for your postings. I wanted the group to be specific and limited to the sort of discussions that have been going on here. I think they are great, but need to be in their own venue. From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kymarto123@... Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:27 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion Steve, thanks for establishing the group, but I don't have a clue how to subscribe. It was not mentioned in your message before on starting the group. Toby kymarto123@... wrote: John, let's take the discussion offline. Lance, I'll cc you. If anyone else wishes to be included let us know. Toby STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote: I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc STEVE GOODSON SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS our products are ALL rated cid:339191121@25022009-09F4 Steve is a member of hd_logo NAMMbelieve2nasaconf_GIF PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES <http://www.nationofmusic.com/> http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) <http://www.saxgourmet.com/> http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) <http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/> http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Thanks,
I don't remember how I subscribed to this group. I thought I followed a link.
Toby
STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
You subscribe to my saxophone acoustics group in EXACTLY the same fashion as you used to join this group. Go to Yahoo groups, search for $B!H(Bsaxophone acoustics$B!I(B, join the group, I$B!G(Bll approve your membership, and we can continue the discussion there.
I established this group because I think this discussion is important and quite interesting to me and I am sure many other people. I$B!G(Bve learned a lot from you, Toby, and have a huge amount of respect for your postings.
I wanted the group to be specific and limited to the sort of discussions that have been going on here. I think they are great, but need to be in their own venue.
From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kymarto123@...
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:27 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion
Steve, thanks for establishing the group, but I don't have a clue how to subscribe. It was not mentioned in your message before on starting the group.
Toby
kymarto123@... wrote:
John, let's take the discussion offline. Lance, I'll cc you. If anyone else wishes to be included let us know.
Toby
STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only$B!D!D(B.of course, it$B!G(Bs not my group, it$B!G(Bs Keith$B!G(Bs, but I don$B!G(Bt think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose$B!D!D(BI do think the discussion of acoustics is
appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject.
sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
our products are ALL rated
Steve is a member of
PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group)
http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information)
http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog)
READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves
BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR
IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR
IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR
IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT
LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson
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FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Actually one should consider every part of the sax, from tip of reed to bell (and beyond) a single, interactive system. However it's no skin off my nose to transfer the discussion to another group if people here feel that we are cramming their inboxes with saxophone spam.
See you on the acoustics group.
Toby
John <jtalcott47@...> wrote: As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other woodwinds, I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it leaves the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group.
1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics or joining in the discussions of existing threads.
2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in why woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads and read those of more interest to them.
3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like and leave the rest. It is that simple.
John
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote:
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relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area.
> Tony F.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: STEVE GOODSON
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion
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FROM: crunchie_nuts (crunchie_nuts)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
I agree. There are already other forums in existence to cater for such topics; SOTW Forum for one. The discussion seems to go on and on, with the participants seemingly unable to come to any useful conclusions, which makes one suspect they don't entirely understand what they are talking about . . . Regards, Andrew --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote: > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > Tony F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: STEVE GOODSON > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > STEVE GOODSON > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >
FROM: kymarto (kymarto123@...)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
This is difficult stuff, and not entirely straightforward, so "endless discussion" can help to clarify just what we are dealing with. This communication is valuable to those who are interested in these topics. I for one do not understand why this is a problem. I think we average at most three
mails a day, as compared to the hundreds we all receive as spam. The headers are generally clear, and it would seem easy enough for group members to simply avoid reading messages on those topics if they are not interested.
Several interested parties do not communicate via SOTW, so that is not really an option.
I would like to ask Steve if all the people now participating in this acoustics discussion, and who have an interest in this topic, will be allowed to join his newly formed group. If so I don't think we should have a problem moving the discussion there.
Toby
crunchie_nuts <andrewhdonaldson@...> wrote:
I agree. There are already other forums in existence to cater for such topics; SOTW Forum for one.
The discussion seems to go on and on, with the participants seemingly unable to come to any useful conclusions, which makes one suspect they don't entirely understand what they are talking about . . .
Regards,
Andrew
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote:
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FROM: mnordinnc (Michael Nordin)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
It's simple. Because the topic can be better served in Steve Goodson's new forum regarding acoustics. Since he was so gracious to invest his time to create and moderate a forum specific to your topic of interest (for your and many others benefit) and where your posts can be read by parties that are specifically interested in the debate you are having, it seems to me to be a more effective solution that doesn't inconvenience those of us who joined the mouthpiece forum to talk specifically about the mouthpiece and learn about the art of refacing. Many of us have each post delivered to our inbox as a matter of convenience. I've worn out my delete button on this particular topic alone and frankly would rather have you shove a reed splinter under my finger nail than to send another post on acoustics. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your passion for the subject and am thankful that there are people in this world like yourself that have an understanding of such concepts and theories regarding wind instruments. Your work will undoubtedly add value to the sax community that we can all benefit from. And for that I am thankful. But please, I beg you, no more Ferron vs. Benade. My head hurts. ;-) _____ From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:34 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other woodwinds, I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it leaves the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group. 1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics or joining in the discussions of existing threads. 2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in why woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads and read those of more interest to them. 3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like and leave the rest. It is that simple. John --- In MouthpieceWork@ <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote: > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > Tony F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: STEVE GOODSON > To: MouthpieceWork@ <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > STEVE GOODSON > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > http://www.nationof <http://www.nationofmusic.com/> music.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > http://launch. <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/> groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > http://www.saxgourm <http://www.saxgourmet.com/> et.com/ (saxophone history and information) > http://saxophonetho <http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/> ughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >
FROM: jdtoddjazz (jdtoddjazz)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
I thought that's what Keith's new poll was about: determining, in a democratic manner, how many folks want the discussion to continue here, or move it elsewhere. I think the poll should determine that. As for me, I find this the most fascinating discussion regarding saxophones going at present. And if the discussion is somehow diminished by the discussants' not building horns, then it would help if the folks building horns could set them straight. JT --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote: > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > Tony F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: STEVE GOODSON > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > STEVE GOODSON > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Anyone who is interested in discussing saxophone acoustics is welcome on my group. I will not allow trolls, anyone with a record of posting false information about me, stalking me, or anyone who has sent obscenity filled emails to my wife. I think that is more than reasonable. It's my house, and I will determine who comes through the front door. I am genuinely interested in promoting the discussion of saxophone acoustics, and the participants in the discussion are welcome to go on and on at length on the finer points, and I look forward to joining them. This topic is probably not everyone's bag of tea, but in my work as a saxophone/mouthpiece/neck designer and manufacturer, it is a topic I want to study and learn more about. From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kymarto123@... Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:54 AM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion This is difficult stuff, and not entirely straightforward, so "endless discussion" can help to clarify just what we are dealing with. This communication is valuable to those who are interested in these topics. I for one do not understand why this is a problem. I think we average at most three mails a day, as compared to the hundreds we all receive as spam. The headers are generally clear, and it would seem easy enough for group members to simply avoid reading messages on those topics if they are not interested. Several interested parties do not communicate via SOTW, so that is not really an option. I would like to ask Steve if all the people now participating in this acoustics discussion, and who have an interest in this topic, will be allowed to join his newly formed group. If so I don't think we should have a problem moving the discussion there. Toby crunchie_nuts <andrewhdonaldson@...> wrote: I agree. There are already other forums in existence to cater for such topics; SOTW Forum for one. The discussion seems to go on and on, with the participants seemingly unable to come to any useful conclusions, which makes one suspect they don't entirely understand what they are talking about . . . Regards, Andrew --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote: > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > Tony F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: STEVE GOODSON > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > STEVE GOODSON > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >
FROM: jbtsax (John)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Another option on the broader topic of Woodwind Acoustics is this site: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Woodwind_Acoustics <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Woodwind_Acoustics> Anyone with an interest in discussing woodwind acoustics is welcome to participate. John --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > Anyone who is interested in discussing saxophone acoustics is welcome on my > group. I will not allow trolls, anyone with a record of posting false > information about me, stalking me, or anyone who has sent obscenity filled > emails to my wife. I think that is more than reasonable. It's my house, and > I will determine who comes through the front door. > > > > I am genuinely interested in promoting the discussion of saxophone > acoustics, and the participants in the discussion are welcome to go on and > on at length on the finer points, and I look forward to joining them. This > topic is probably not everyone's bag of tea, but in my work as a > saxophone/mouthpiece/neck designer and manufacturer, it is a topic I want to > study and learn more about. > > > > From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of kymarto123@... > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:54 AM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion > > > > > > This is difficult stuff, and not entirely straightforward, so "endless > discussion" can help to clarify just what we are dealing with. This > communication is valuable to those who are interested in these topics. I for > one do not understand why this is a problem. I think we average at most > three mails a day, as compared to the hundreds we all receive as spam. The > headers are generally clear, and it would seem easy enough for group members > to simply avoid reading messages on those topics if they are not interested. > > > > > Several interested parties do not communicate via SOTW, so that is not > really an option. > > > > I would like to ask Steve if all the people now participating in this > acoustics discussion, and who have an interest in this topic, will be > allowed to join his newly formed group. If so I don't think we should have a > problem moving the discussion there. > > > > Toby > > crunchie_nuts andrewhdonaldson@... wrote: > > > > I agree. There are already other forums in existence to cater for such > topics; SOTW Forum for one. > > The discussion seems to go on and on, with the participants seemingly unable > to come to any useful conclusions, which makes one suspect they don't > entirely understand what they are talking about . . . > > Regards, > Andrew > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tony F." tfairbri@ wrote: > > > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge > of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last > few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from > its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance > to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > > Tony F. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: STEVE GOODSON > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece > refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's > Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original > stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and > interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be > interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE > JOURNAL > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > hallway where thieves > > > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's > also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy > all copies of the original message. > > >
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
I STRONGLY disagree....this forum has a stated topic, and grew and thrived based on that topic...in the recent past, mouthpiece discussions (the reason we all joined) have become sparse, while a couple of members have flooded the forum with off topic threads. I would very much like to see this forum return to its original stated mission and scope. I have established another forum to facilitate the discussion of acoustics. I believe that topic to be important, but strongly believe it should be confined to an appropriate venue. I do not believe general discussion forums or usenet to be appropriate venues, which is why I established a specific place for these discussions. From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:34 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other woodwinds, I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it leaves the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group. 1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics or joining in the discussions of existing threads. 2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in why woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads and read those of more interest to them. 3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like and leave the rest. It is that simple. John --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote: > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > Tony F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: STEVE GOODSON > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > STEVE GOODSON > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Alternative site suggestions to continue acoustic discussions should be limited to sites that will welcome all the current participants. I had previously suggested SOTW but I know understand that some of you are no longer allowed to participate there. That is why I more recently suggested alt.music.saxophone.
However, I am fine with allowing the acoustic posts to continue here. I think they are easy enough to scan/read/delete. Members can also configure their membership to download all the comments in a daily digest format so you only receive one Email a day with all the day's messages. You may also be able to set up Email filters to send posts containing key words like "acoustic" or certain members names into a special folder or your trash folder. Yahoo mail allows this.
Members should make their preferences known in the poll I set up yesterday. I am not keeping count of votes made via forum posts. As it stands now, the discussion on sax acoustics can continue. If you have previously stated you do not like it, please stop repeating yourself.
FROM: jbtsax (John)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
My observation is that there have been numerous posts containing nothing more than self-aggrandizement and promotion of one's products that have had less to do with mouthpiece design and refacing than the discussion of soundwave acoustics. It also seems a bit disingenuous to offer a discussion forum on saxophone acoustics claiming an interest in the topic, and then publicly claim that the moderator intends to cherry pick who can participate not based on an interest or knowledge of acoustics, but instead based upon past resentments. This calls into question what the real motive for starting such a forum might be. The woodwind acoustics discussion forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Woodwind_Acoustics will be open to anyone who cares to participate. John --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > I STRONGLY disagree....this forum has a stated topic, and grew and thrived > based on that topic...in the recent past, mouthpiece discussions (the reason > we all joined) have become sparse, while a couple of members have flooded > the forum with off topic threads. I would very much like to see this forum > return to its original stated mission and scope. > > > > I have established another forum to facilitate the discussion of acoustics. > I believe that topic to be important, but strongly believe it should be > confined to an appropriate venue. I do not believe general discussion forums > or usenet to be appropriate venues, which is why I established a specific > place for these discussions. > > > > From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of John > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:34 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion > > > > > > As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other woodwinds, > I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it leaves > the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group. > > 1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing > techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics or > joining in the discussions of existing threads. > > 2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in why > woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads and > read those of more interest to them. > > 3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like and > leave the rest. It is that simple. > > John > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tony F." <tfairbri@> wrote: > > > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my knowledge > of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the last > few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed from > its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little relevance > to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > > Tony F. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: STEVE GOODSON > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece > refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, it's > Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the original > stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and > interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would be > interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group) > > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE > JOURNAL > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > hallway where thieves > > > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's > also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy > all copies of the original message. > > >
FROM: frymorgan (Morgan)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
It's not as if the discussion about acoustics is pushing out other more explicitly relevant topics. There have been plenty of weeks with very little activity in this group. IMO discussion about acoustics is preferable to no discussion at all. Keeping this discussion in this diverse, moderate, and well moderated group is probably the best thing for it (the discussion). --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > Alternative site suggestions to continue acoustic discussions should be limited to sites that will welcome all the current participants. I had previously suggested SOTW but I know understand that some of you are no longer allowed to participate there. That is why I more recently suggested alt.music.saxophone. > > However, I am fine with allowing the acoustic posts to continue here. I think they are easy enough to scan/read/delete. Members can also configure their membership to download all the comments in a daily digest format so you only receive one Email a day with all the day's messages. You may also be able to set up Email filters to send posts containing key words like "acoustic" or certain members names into a special folder or your trash folder. Yahoo mail allows this. > > Members should make their preferences known in the poll I set up yesterday. I am not keeping count of votes made via forum posts. As it stands now, the discussion on sax acoustics can continue. If you have previously stated you do not like it, please stop repeating yourself. >
FROM: ez_mpc (Ed Zentera)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
here here. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John <jtalcott47@...> wrote: > > > My observation is that there have been numerous posts containing nothing > more than self-aggrandizement and promotion of one's products that have had > less to do with mouthpiece design and refacing than the discussion of > soundwave acoustics. > > It also seems a bit disingenuous to offer a discussion forum on saxophone > acoustics claiming an interest in the topic, and then publicly claim that > the moderator intends to cherry pick who can participate not based on an > interest or knowledge of acoustics, but instead based upon past resentments. > This calls into question what the real motive for starting such a forum > might be. > > The woodwind acoustics discussion forum > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Woodwind_Acoustics will be open to anyone > who cares to participate. > > John > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>, > "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > > > > I STRONGLY disagree....this forum has a stated topic, and grew and > thrived > > based on that topic...in the recent past, mouthpiece discussions (the > reason > > we all joined) have become sparse, while a couple of members have flooded > > the forum with off topic threads. I would very much like to see this > forum > > return to its original stated mission and scope. > > > > > > > > I have established another forum to facilitate the discussion of > acoustics. > > I believe that topic to be important, but strongly believe it should be > > confined to an appropriate venue. I do not believe general discussion > forums > > or usenet to be appropriate venues, which is why I established a specific > > place for these discussions. > > > > > > > > From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto: > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>] > > On Behalf Of John > > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:34 PM > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other > woodwinds, > > I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it > leaves > > the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group. > > > > 1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing > > techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics > or > > joining in the discussions of existing threads. > > > > 2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in why > > woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads > and > > read those of more interest to them. > > > > 3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like > and > > leave the rest. It is that simple. > > > > John > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com>> > , "Tony F." <tfairbri@> wrote: > > > > > > I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my > knowledge > > of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the > last > > few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed > from > > its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little > relevance > > to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > > > Tony F. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: STEVE GOODSON > > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > > > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece > > refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, > it's > > Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the > original > > stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and > > interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would > be > > interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > > > > > > STEVE GOODSON > > > > > > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > > > > > > > > > > > > our products are ALL rated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve is a member of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > > > http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion > group) > > > http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > > > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > > > > > > > > > > > > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE > > JOURNAL > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > > hallway where thieves > > > > > > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > > > > > > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > > > > > > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > > > > > > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > > > > > > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > > > > > > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > > > > > > > > > > > > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > > hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. > There's > > also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > > > > > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is > > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential > > and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any > unauthorized > > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy > > all copies of the original message. > > > > > > > >
FROM: lancelotburt (MartinMods)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
"It's not as if the discussion about acoustics is pushing out other more
explicitly relevant topics. There have been plenty of weeks with very
little activity in this group. IMO discussion about acoustics is
preferable to no discussion at all. Keeping this discussion in this
diverse, moderate, and well moderated group is probably the best thing
for it (the discussion)."
The mechanical aspects of mouthpieces get along just fine with theoretical and applied acoustics in a working saxophone, and visa versa. The problem, if there is one, is in our heads.
FROM: peteleoni (peteleoni@...)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
Highly technical discussion of mouthpiece acoustics is highly relevant in this forum, and in fact can only serve to elevate this unique science. Those that who can't understand them can easily ignore them.
FROM: moeaaron (Barry Levine)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
um, do you mean: "hear, hear!" (an abbreviation for "hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!") or "There, there" (pat on the back, let's not get too excited) Barry Levine, here. on 1/19/10 6:04 PM, Ed Zentera at edzentera@... wrote: > here here. > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John <jtalcott47@...> wrote: > >> >> >> My observation is that there have been numerous posts containing nothing >> more than self-aggrandizement and promotion of one's products that have had >> less to do with mouthpiece design and refacing than the discussion of >> soundwave acoustics. >> >> It also seems a bit disingenuous to offer a discussion forum on saxophone >> acoustics claiming an interest in the topic, and then publicly claim that >> the moderator intends to cherry pick who can participate not based on an >> interest or knowledge of acoustics, but instead based upon past resentments. >> This calls into question what the real motive for starting such a forum >> might be. >> >> The woodwind acoustics discussion forum >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Woodwind_Acoustics will be open to anyone >> who cares to participate. >> >> John >> >> >> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>, >> "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote: >>> >>> I STRONGLY disagree....this forum has a stated topic, and grew and >> thrived >>> based on that topic...in the recent past, mouthpiece discussions (the >> reason >>> we all joined) have become sparse, while a couple of members have flooded >>> the forum with off topic threads. I would very much like to see this >> forum >>> return to its original stated mission and scope. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have established another forum to facilitate the discussion of >> acoustics. >>> I believe that topic to be important, but strongly believe it should be >>> confined to an appropriate venue. I do not believe general discussion >> forums >>> or usenet to be appropriate venues, which is why I established a specific >>> place for these discussions. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >>> <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto: >> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>] >>> On Behalf Of John >>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:34 PM >>> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> >>> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other >> woodwinds, >>> I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it >> leaves >>> the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group. >>> >>> 1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing >>> techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics >> or >>> joining in the discussions of existing threads. >>> >>> 2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in why >>> woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads >> and >>> read those of more interest to them. >>> >>> 3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like >> and >>> leave the rest. It is that simple. >>> >>> John >>> >>> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> >>> <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com> >>> > >> , "Tony F." <tfairbri@> wrote: >>>> >>>> I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my >> knowledge >>> of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the >> last >>> few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed >> from >>> its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little >> relevance >>> to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. >>>> Tony F. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: STEVE GOODSON >>>> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> >>> <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com> >>> > >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM >>>> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I really think this group should return to the discussion of mouthpiece >>> refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, >> it's >>> Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the >> original >>> stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate and >>> interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I would >> be >>> interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc >>>> >>>> STEVE GOODSON >>>> >>>> SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> our products are ALL rated >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve is a member of >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES >>>> http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) >>>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion >> group) >>>> http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) >>>> http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE >>> JOURNAL >>>> The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic >>> hallway where thieves >>>> >>>> BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR >>>> >>>> IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR >>>> >>>> IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR >>>> >>>> IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT >>>> >>>> LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN >>>> >>>> YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic >>> hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. >> There's >>> also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, >> is >>> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain >> confidential >>> and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any >> unauthorized >>> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the >>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy >>> all copies of the original message. >>>> >>> >> >> >> >
FROM: ez_mpc (Ed Zentera)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
sorry. I actually meant to say "they're they're" - thanks for catching that :P On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Barry Levine <barrylevine@norwoodlight.com > wrote: > > > um, do you mean: > > "hear, hear!" (an abbreviation for "hear, all ye good people, hear what > this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!") > > or > > "There, there" (pat on the back, let's not get too excited) > > Barry Levine, here. > > on 1/19/10 6:04 PM, Ed Zentera at edzentera@...<edzentera%40gmail.com>wrote: > > > here here. > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John <jtalcott47@...<jtalcott47%40msn.com>> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> My observation is that there have been numerous posts containing nothing > >> more than self-aggrandizement and promotion of one's products that have > had > >> less to do with mouthpiece design and refacing than the discussion of > >> soundwave acoustics. > >> > >> It also seems a bit disingenuous to offer a discussion forum on > saxophone > >> acoustics claiming an interest in the topic, and then publicly claim > that > >> the moderator intends to cherry pick who can participate not based on an > >> interest or knowledge of acoustics, but instead based upon past > resentments. > >> This calls into question what the real motive for starting such a forum > >> might be. > >> > >> The woodwind acoustics discussion forum > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Woodwind_Acoustics will be open to anyone > >> who cares to participate. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com><MouthpieceWork% > 40yahoogroups.com>, > >> "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote: > >>> > >>> I STRONGLY disagree....this forum has a stated topic, and grew and > >> thrived > >>> based on that topic...in the recent past, mouthpiece discussions (the > >> reason > >>> we all joined) have become sparse, while a couple of members have > flooded > >>> the forum with off topic threads. I would very much like to see this > >> forum > >>> return to its original stated mission and scope. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have established another forum to facilitate the discussion of > >> acoustics. > >>> I believe that topic to be important, but strongly believe it should be > >>> confined to an appropriate venue. I do not believe general discussion > >> forums > >>> or usenet to be appropriate venues, which is why I established a > specific > >>> place for these discussions. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com> > >>> <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto: > >> MouthpieceWork@...m <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com><MouthpieceWork% > 40yahoogroups.com>] > >>> On Behalf Of John > >>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:34 PM > >>> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com><MouthpieceWork% > 40yahoogroups.com> > >>> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: endless acoustic discussion > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As someone interested in the acoustics of the saxophone and other > >> woodwinds, > >>> I fail to see how discussion about what the sound wave does once it > >> leaves > >>> the mouthpiece detracts from this discussion group. > >>> > >>> 1) It in no way prevents those who want to discuss mouthpiece refacing > >>> techniques, tools, and strategies from starting threads on those topics > >> or > >>> joining in the discussions of existing threads. > >>> > >>> 2) Those who are not interested in the acoustical theory involved in > why > >>> woodwinds behave the way they do can certainly skip over those threads > >> and > >>> read those of more interest to them. > >>> > >>> 3) In my view a discussion forum is like a buffet---take what you like > >> and > >>> leave the rest. It is that simple. > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com><MouthpieceWork% > 40yahoogroups.com> > >>> > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com> > <MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com> > >>> > > >> , "Tony F." <tfairbri@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I joined this group because I have an interest in developing my > >> knowledge > >>> of the intricacies of the clarinet and saxophone mouthpiece. Over the > >> last > >>> few weeks the site seems to be drifting off into subjects far removed > >> from > >>> its stated purpose, and while this is interesting it is of little > >> relevance > >>> to me. I'd like to see the site return to its original subject area. > >>>> Tony F. > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: STEVE GOODSON > >>>> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com <MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com><MouthpieceWork% > 40yahoogroups.com> > >>> > <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com> > <MouthpieceWork%2540yahoogroups.com> > >>> > > >> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:36 AM > >>>> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] endless acoustic discussion > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I really think this group should return to the discussion of > mouthpiece > >>> refacing and mouthpiece refacing only...of course, it's not my group, > >> it's > >>> Keith's, but I don't think I am alone in wanting to return to the > >> original > >>> stated purpose..I do think the discussion of acoustics is appropriate > and > >>> interesting, so I set up another group for that specific purpose. I > would > >> be > >>> interested in the comments of any other members on this subject. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc > >>>> > >>>> STEVE GOODSON > >>>> > >>>> SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> our products are ALL rated > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Steve is a member of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES > >>>> http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum) > >>>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion > >> group) > >>>> http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history and information) > >>>> http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE > >>> JOURNAL > >>>> The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > >>> hallway where thieves > >>>> > >>>> BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR > >>>> > >>>> IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR > >>>> > >>>> IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR > >>>> > >>>> IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT > >>>> > >>>> LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN > >>>> > >>>> YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic > >>> hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. > >> There's > >>> also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, > >> is > >>> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > >> confidential > >>> and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any > >> unauthorized > >>> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the > >>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy > >>> all copies of the original message. > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
FROM: hansmartini (Hans Martini)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
I've been getting tons of these over the past weeks. I've read all I want, but have no problem with the discussion continuing. After all, all I have to do is click delete. Carry on. Great forum. Hans
FROM: fidlershorns (fidlershorns)
SUBJECT: Re: endless acoustic discussion
With the long quoted texts in replies (AKA everything that follows "joe cool@... wrote") and some long signatures, my mouse scroll wheel needs a re-tread! Seriously, they would be easier to follow if the old stuff was limited in the replies. If you need to refresh your memory, it is all there to read in the threads. E v e r e t t t F i d l e r --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Martini" <hmartini@...> wrote: > > I've been getting tons of these over the past weeks. I've read all I want, but have no problem with the discussion continuing. After all, all I have to do is click delete. Carry on. Great forum. > Hans >