FROM: flemingml2000 (flemingml2000)
SUBJECT: Black acrylic powder for dental work
I thought that some of you who do repairs might be interested.  I just got my bottle, but haven't used it yet.  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400065818862&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123

I'm waiting for my MME binder from a beauty shop supplier (after doing the research and finding that acrylic nail polish uses the same toxic, flammable, carcinogenic binder as used in the dental industry).  Apparently, the FDA sees no problem with oral applications once the material is cured.  Unfortunately, I couldn't find a concensus as to the length of time necessary to fully cure, even on a MSDS.  

This is scary stuff.  The MSDS says the necessary equipment is a hood fan, rubber gloves, goggles, a Class B fire extinguisher, etc.  Basically, use the same precautions that you would use while building a neurotoxic weapon of mass destruction.

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m5616.htm

Black acrylic powder is also available from the beauty supply places, by it's more expensive than from this discount seller.  

I know who wears black nail polish, but who wears black dentures?

Mark


FROM: heli_av8tor (tdewinter@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
What do you mix with this?

Does it yield a putty-like consistancy?

Thanks,

Tom

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From: "flemingml2000" <marklfleming@msn.com>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:55:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Black acrylic powder for dental work

  




I thought that some of you who do repairs might be interested. I just got my bottle, but haven't used it yet. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400065818862&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123 

I'm waiting for my MME binder from a beauty shop supplier (after doing the research and finding that acrylic nail polish uses the same toxic, flammable, carcinogenic binder as used in the dental industry). Apparently, the FDA sees no problem with oral applications once the material is cured. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a concensus as to the length of time necessary to fully cure, even on a MSDS. 

This is scary stuff. The MSDS says the necessary equipment is a hood fan, rubber gloves, goggles, a Class B fire extinguisher, etc. Basically, use the same precautions that you would use while building a neurotoxic weapon of mass destruction. 

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m5616.htm 

Black acrylic powder is also available from the beauty supply places, by it's more expensive than from this discount seller. 

I know who wears black nail polish, but who wears black dentures? 

Mark 




FROM: teoenwy (Tony F.)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
Sounds as though you're exploring the dark side of dentistry!
Tony F.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: flemingml2000 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:55 AM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Black acrylic powder for dental work



  Black acrylic powder is also available from the beauty supply places, by it's more expensive than from this discount seller. 

  I know who wears black nail polish, but who wears black dentures?

  Mark



  
FROM: flemingml2000 (flemingml2000)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
You mix the powder with MMA (methyl methacrylate) into either a putty for dental work or, with less powder, a "paint" for fingernail work.  My bottle of powder says mix 2:1, which I assume is 2 parts powder to one part MMA to form a putty for dental work.  I found one site that said if you wet the surface first with MMA, the putty will adhere better.  Keep in mind, I haven't worked with the stuff yet, but others here have.

Dentistry has been aware for some time of the problems associated with working the putty with your bare hands, although a couple of "movie makeup" web sites still say that you can make your fake fangs by working the putty with your fingers and don't mention using gloves.  

I have a pair of heavy rubber "chemical" gloves that I might use.  It sounds like anything less (latex or dishwashing gloves) might dissolve.  If the stuff dissolves your gloves, the solution isn't to do the work barehanded.

I'm also curious as to whether making a putty is even required.  For small chip repair, teeth guards, and maybe even baffles, it looks like applying with a small brush might work.  Look at the applications on the nail sites, where they use tape to mask areas and successive layers to build up and fill in areas.  

Mark 


FROM: dantorosian (Dan Torosian)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------I have step- by-step pictures of a dental acrylic biteplate I put on a metal
Berg tenor piece. I know that attaching them here wouldn't work, but maybe I
could email them to Keith for the files section.  
  
DT  
  
flemingml2000 wrote:

>  
>  You mix the powder with MMA (methyl methacrylate) into either a putty for
> dental work or, with less powder, a "paint" for fingernail work. My bottle
> of powder says mix 2:1, which I assume is 2 parts powder to one part MMA to
> form a putty for dental work. I found one site that said if you wet the
> surface first with MMA, the putty will adhere better. Keep in mind, I
> haven't worked with the stuff yet, but others here have.  
>  
>  Dentistry has been aware for some time of the problems associated with
> working the putty with your bare hands, although a couple of "movie makeup"
> web sites still say that you can make your fake fangs by working the putty
> with your fingers and don't mention using gloves.  
>  
>  I have a pair of heavy rubber "chemical" gloves that I might use. It sounds
> like anything less (latex or dishwashing gloves) might dissolve. If the
> stuff dissolves your gloves, the solution isn't to do the work barehanded.  
>  
>  I'm also curious as to whether making a putty is even required. For small
> chip repair, teeth guards, and maybe even baffles, it looks like applying
> with a small brush might work. Look at the applications on the nail sites,
> where they use tape to mask areas and successive layers to build up and fill
> in areas.  
>  
>  Mark  
>  
>

FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
Any member is allowed to add photos to the Yahoo group site.  Just create a new folder if your contribution is a new subject.

I have found the pink powder and MMA fairly forgiving to work with.  I would expect the black stuff to be similar.  The ratios are not critical since the MMA absorbs/evaporates quickly.  

For pocket bite plates, I like to wet the pocket with a few drops of MMA.  Then spoon in some powder.  The more MMA and powder as needed to get just the right amount for the bite plate.  Over/under filling makes for more finish work.  Smooth/pack the surface of the bite plate with a small patch of clear plastic.  I usually let it dry with and then peel the plastic off.  I do not use gloves but I do avoid contact with the acrylic.




________________________________
From: Dan Torosian <dtorosian@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 4:55:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work

  
I have step-by-step pictures of a dental acrylic biteplate I put on a metal Berg tenor piece.  I know that attaching them here wouldn't work, but maybe I could email them to Keith for the files section.

DT

flemingml2000 wrote: 
  
>
>You mix the powder with MMA (methyl methacrylate) into either a putty for dental work or, with less powder, a "paint" for fingernail work. My bottle of powder says mix 2:1, which I assume is 2 parts powder to one part MMA to form a putty for dental work. I found one site that said if you wet the surface first with MMA, the putty will adhere better. Keep in mind, I haven't worked with the stuff yet, but others here have.
>
>Dentistry has been aware for some time of the problems associated with working the putty with your bare hands, although a couple of "movie makeup" web sites still say that you can make your fake fangs by working the putty with your fingers and don't mention using gloves. 
>
>I have a pair of heavy rubber "chemical" gloves that I might use. It sounds like anything less (latex or dishwashing gloves) might dissolve. If the stuff dissolves your gloves, the solution isn't to do the work barehanded.
>
>I'm also curious as to whether making a putty is even required. For small chip repair, teeth guards, and maybe even baffles, it looks like applying with a small brush might work. Look at the applications on the nail sites, where they use tape to mask areas and successive layers to build up and fill in areas. 
>
>Mark 
>
>



      
FROM: wdaleiden (William Daleiden)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
Sorry ...Buying?


Bill 

 

--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:


From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:19 PM


  






Any member is allowed to add photos to the Yahoo group site.  Just create a new folder if your contribution is a new subject.
 
I have found the pink powder and MMA fairly forgiving to work with.  I would expect the black stuff to be similar.  The ratios are not critical since the MMA absorbs/evaporates quickly.  
 
For pocket bite plates, I like to wet the pocket with a few drops of MMA.  Then spoon in some powder.  The more MMA and powder as needed to get just the right amount for the bite plate.  Over/under filling makes for more finish work.  Smooth/pack the surface of the bite plate with a small patch of clear plastic.  I usually let it dry with and then peel the plastic off.  I do not use gloves but I do avoid contact with the acrylic.






From: Dan Torosian <dtorosian@sbcglobal .net>
To: MouthpieceWork@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 4:55:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work

  

I have step-by-step pictures of a dental acrylic biteplate I put on a metal Berg tenor piece.  I know that attaching them here wouldn't work, but maybe I could email them to Keith for the files section.

DT

flemingml2000 wrote: 
  


You mix the powder with MMA (methyl methacrylate) into either a putty for dental work or, with less powder, a "paint" for fingernail work. My bottle of powder says mix 2:1, which I assume is 2 parts powder to one part MMA to form a putty for dental work. I found one site that said if you wet the surface first with MMA, the putty will adhere better. Keep in mind, I haven't worked with the stuff yet, but others here have.

Dentistry has been aware for some time of the problems associated with working the putty with your bare hands, although a couple of "movie makeup" web sites still say that you can make your fake fangs by working the putty with your fingers and don't mention using gloves. 

I have a pair of heavy rubber "chemical" gloves that I might use. It sounds like anything less (latex or dishwashing gloves) might dissolve. If the stuff dissolves your gloves, the solution isn't to do the work barehanded.

I'm also curious as to whether making a putty is even required. For small chip repair, teeth guards, and maybe even baffles, it looks like applying with a small brush might work. Look at the applications on the nail sites, where they use tape to mask areas and successive layers to build up and fill in areas. 

Mark 










      
FROM: wdaleiden (William Daleiden)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
Where are you Buting the MMA?


Bill Daleiden



--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:


From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:19 PM


  






Any member is allowed to add photos to the Yahoo group site.  Just create a new folder if your contribution is a new subject.
 
I have found the pink powder and MMA fairly forgiving to work with.  I would expect the black stuff to be similar.  The ratios are not critical since the MMA absorbs/evaporates quickly.  
 
For pocket bite plates, I like to wet the pocket with a few drops of MMA.  Then spoon in some powder.  The more MMA and powder as needed to get just the right amount for the bite plate.  Over/under filling makes for more finish work.  Smooth/pack the surface of the bite plate with a small patch of clear plastic.  I usually let it dry with and then peel the plastic off.  I do not use gloves but I do avoid contact with the acrylic.






From: Dan Torosian <dtorosian@sbcglobal .net>
To: MouthpieceWork@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 4:55:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work

  

I have step-by-step pictures of a dental acrylic biteplate I put on a metal Berg tenor piece.  I know that attaching them here wouldn't work, but maybe I could email them to Keith for the files section.

DT

flemingml2000 wrote: 
  


You mix the powder with MMA (methyl methacrylate) into either a putty for dental work or, with less powder, a "paint" for fingernail work. My bottle of powder says mix 2:1, which I assume is 2 parts powder to one part MMA to form a putty for dental work. I found one site that said if you wet the surface first with MMA, the putty will adhere better. Keep in mind, I haven't worked with the stuff yet, but others here have.

Dentistry has been aware for some time of the problems associated with working the putty with your bare hands, although a couple of "movie makeup" web sites still say that you can make your fake fangs by working the putty with your fingers and don't mention using gloves. 

I have a pair of heavy rubber "chemical" gloves that I might use. It sounds like anything less (latex or dishwashing gloves) might dissolve. If the stuff dissolves your gloves, the solution isn't to do the work barehanded.

I'm also curious as to whether making a putty is even required. For small chip repair, teeth guards, and maybe even baffles, it looks like applying with a small brush might work. Look at the applications on the nail sites, where they use tape to mask areas and successive layers to build up and fill in areas. 

Mark 










      
FROM: flemingml2000 (flemingml2000)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work


>
> Where are you Buting the MMA?
> 
> 
> Bill Daleiden
> 
>

I'm buying the MMA off of ebay where they sell lots of it in small amounts for acrylic fingernail polish.  Search for "acrylic nail" and you'll get several hundred options.  Some of them come with a selection of acrylic powder, so if you're doing baffles and don't care about color, you can make them pink, white, or clear with a kit like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item)0356638637&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

There's also sparkly acrylic powder.  Maybe next time.

Mark


FROM: dantorosian (Dan Torosian)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------In the Photos section, I just created an album called Dental Acrylic Bite
Plate with 10 pictures of the process. OK, it's pink, but this was before I
knew about the colors available. So now I also have a Ponzol with a purple
sparkle biteplate....  
  
Dan  
  
Dan Torosian wrote:

> I have step-by-step pictures of a dental acrylic biteplate I put on a metal
> Berg tenor piece. I know that attaching them here wouldn't work, but maybe I
> could email them to Keith for the files section.  
>  
>  DT  
>  
>  flemingml2000 wrote:
>

>>  
>  You mix the powder with MMA (methyl methacrylate) into either a putty for
> dental work or, with less powder, a "paint" for fingernail work. My bottle
> of powder says mix 2:1, which I assume is 2 parts powder to one part MMA to
> form a putty for dental work. I found one site that said if you wet the
> surface first with MMA, the putty will adhere better. Keep in mind, I
> haven't worked with the stuff yet, but others here have.  
>  
>  Dentistry has been aware for some time of the problems associated with
> working the putty with your bare hands, although a couple of "movie makeup"
> web sites still say that you can make your fake fangs by working the putty
> with your fingers and don't mention using gloves.  
>  
>  I have a pair of heavy rubber "chemical" gloves that I might use. It sounds
> like anything less (latex or dishwashing gloves) might dissolve. If the
> stuff dissolves your gloves, the solution isn't to do the work barehanded.  
>  
>  I'm also curious as to whether making a putty is even required. For small
> chip repair, teeth guards, and maybe even baffles, it looks like applying
> with a small brush might work. Look at the applications on the nail sites,
> where they use tape to mask areas and successive layers to build up and fill
> in areas.  
>  
>  Mark  
>  
>

FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
Nice job, Dan...nothing wrong with purple sparkle!

 

From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Torosian
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:32 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work

 

  

In the Photos section, I just created an album called Dental Acrylic Bite
Plate with 10 pictures of the process.  OK, it's pink, but this was before I
knew about the colors available.  So now I also have a Ponzol with a purple
sparkle biteplate....

Dan

Dan Torosian wrote: 

  

I have step-by-step pictures of a dental acrylic biteplate I put on a metal
Berg tenor piece.  I know that attaching them here wouldn't work, but maybe
I could email them to Keith for the files section.

DT

flemingml2000 wrote: 

  


You mix the powder with MMA (methyl methacrylate) into either a putty for
dental work or, with less powder, a "paint" for fingernail work. My bottle
of powder says mix 2:1, which I assume is 2 parts powder to one part MMA to
form a putty for dental work. I found one site that said if you wet the
surface first with MMA, the putty will adhere better. Keep in mind, I
haven't worked with the stuff yet, but others here have.

Dentistry has been aware for some time of the problems associated with
working the putty with your bare hands, although a couple of "movie makeup"
web sites still say that you can make your fake fangs by working the putty
with your fingers and don't mention using gloves. 

I have a pair of heavy rubber "chemical" gloves that I might use. It sounds
like anything less (latex or dishwashing gloves) might dissolve. If the
stuff dissolves your gloves, the solution isn't to do the work barehanded.

I'm also curious as to whether making a putty is even required. For small
chip repair, teeth guards, and maybe even baffles, it looks like applying
with a small brush might work. Look at the applications on the nail sites,
where they use tape to mask areas and successive layers to build up and fill
in areas. 

Mark 



FROM: mattmarantz86 (Matt)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
so, would everyone agree that fingernail acrylic would be safe to use for bite-plates? it seems to be very similar to dental acdylic... what i'm seeing online is that what you want to watch out for is the MMA (methyl methacrylate), it is dangerous and is apparently illegal now... EMA (ethyl methacrylate) is supposedly much safer and seems to be the industry standard. i'm trying to avoid having to order this stuff, and black powder fingernail acrylic seems to be available in standard beauty supply shops around town. from what i can gather, as soon as the mix is cured, it should be ok. (?) anyone have any experiences with this? thanks.

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds as though you're exploring the dark side of dentistry!
> Tony F.
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: flemingml2000 
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:55 AM
>   Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Black acrylic powder for dental work
> 
> 
> 
>   Black acrylic powder is also available from the beauty supply places, by it's more expensive than from this discount seller. 
> 
>   I know who wears black nail polish, but who wears black dentures?
> 
>   Mark
>



FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
I would recommend trying to get some MSDS reports for the materials.  I think 
these must be available for all materials sold in the US.  These mostly list the 
hazards of working with the raw materials.  Sometimes they mention that the 
combined and cured material is inert.

 
Mojo Mouthpiece Work LLC
Check out: http://www.MojoMouthpieceWork.com




________________________________
From: Matt <mattmarantz86@...m>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 5:17:12 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work

  
so, would everyone agree that fingernail acrylic would be safe to use for 
bite-plates? it seems to be very similar to dental acdylic... what i'm seeing 
online is that what you want to watch out for is the MMA (methyl methacrylate), 
it is dangerous and is apparently illegal now... EMA (ethyl methacrylate) is 
supposedly much safer and seems to be the industry standard. i'm trying to avoid 
having to order this stuff, and black powder fingernail acrylic seems to be 
available in standard beauty supply shops around town. from what i can gather, 
as soon as the mix is cured, it should be ok. (?) anyone have any experiences 
with this? thanks.

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds as though you're exploring the dark side of dentistry!
> Tony F.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: flemingml2000 
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:55 AM
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Black acrylic powder for dental work
> 
> 
> 
> Black acrylic powder is also available from the beauty supply places, by it's 
>more expensive than from this discount seller. 
>
> 
> I know who wears black nail polish, but who wears black dentures?
> 
> Mark
>


FROM: mattmarantz86 (Matt)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
Hi Mojo, thanks for that recommendation. I did a search and found some of those reports that seemed to be referring to the chemical in it's un-cured state. It does sound like something you don't just wanna get all over your skin before it's cured, but I did find one page about nail acrylic that said the following: " Additionally most dental prostheses are made outside of the mouth and like nail acrylic, once polymerised and cured dental composites are safe when placed in contact with human tissue." http://www.thenailstudiocolchester.co.uk/information/mma.php But that site doesn't sound like a government-sanctioned entity or anything that official... From what I can tell though, it seems like most of these acrylic materials doesn't seem to bother people when they're cured. I read a bunch of stuff online about ladies getting allergic reactions on their skin when getting their nails done with acrylic, but this is where they'd put the material on their skin before it was cured. So, I may try to ask someone in the medical field about it and will post here if I find out anything.

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> I would recommend trying to get some MSDS reports for the materials.  I think 
> these must be available for all materials sold in the US.  These mostly list the 
> hazards of working with the raw materials.  Sometimes they mention that the 
> combined and cured material is inert.
> 
>  
> Mojo Mouthpiece Work LLC
> Check out: http://www.MojoMouthpieceWork.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Matt <mattmarantz86@...>
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 5:17:12 AM
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
> 
>   
> so, would everyone agree that fingernail acrylic would be safe to use for 
> bite-plates? it seems to be very similar to dental acdylic... what i'm seeing 
> online is that what you want to watch out for is the MMA (methyl methacrylate), 
> it is dangerous and is apparently illegal now... EMA (ethyl methacrylate) is 
> supposedly much safer and seems to be the industry standard. i'm trying to avoid 
> having to order this stuff, and black powder fingernail acrylic seems to be 
> available in standard beauty supply shops around town. from what i can gather, 
> as soon as the mix is cured, it should be ok. (?) anyone have any experiences 
> with this? thanks.
> 
> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Tony F." <tfairbri@> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds as though you're exploring the dark side of dentistry!
> > Tony F.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: flemingml2000 
> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:55 AM
> > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Black acrylic powder for dental work
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Black acrylic powder is also available from the beauty supply places, by it's 
> >more expensive than from this discount seller. 
> >
> > 
> > I know who wears black nail polish, but who wears black dentures?
> > 
> > Mark
> >
>



FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
We should be as diligent as possible with the safety of the materials we use for 
repairs.  But I often wonder if mouthpiece makers are as diligent over the 
years.  Players tent to trust the makers more than the refacer/repair techs.  
FROM: mattmarantz86 (Matt)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
For whatever it's worth, I got some of this fingernail acrylic powder and bonding liquid from a make-up shop the other day (while hoping they didn't think I was going to do my nails up with it), and it works great. Although the 3M black acrylic works well too, the thing I like about this stuff is that it's almost in a few minutes, and I started filing on it in about 20 minutes and it was good to go. I was using white powder for a Beechler bit plate which was white, but they have the black powder at local shops too. 

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> 
> We should be as diligent as possible with the safety of the materials we use for 
> repairs.  But I often wonder if mouthpiece makers are as diligent over the 
> years.  Players tent to trust the makers more than the refacer/repair techs. 
>



FROM: dantorosian (Dan Torosian)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------From what I can find, dental acrylic is not much more expensive than nail
acrylic. I suppose there's a good chance they're exactly the same, but if
you're concerned about toxicity at all, the price difference is minimal.  
  
Dan T  
  
On 6/23/2011 2:48 AM, Matt wrote:

> For whatever it's worth, I got some of this fingernail acrylic powder and
> bonding liquid from a make-up shop the other day (while hoping they didn't
> think I was going to do my nails up with it), and it works great. Although
> the 3M black acrylic works well too, the thing I like about this stuff is
> that it's almost in a few minutes, and I started filing on it in about 20
> minutes and it was good to go. I was using white powder for a Beechler bit
> plate which was white, but they have the black powder at local shops too.  
>  
>  \\--- In
> [MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com](mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com),
> Keith Bradbury [](mailto:kwbradbury@...) wrote:  
>  >  
>  >  
>  > We should be as diligent as possible with the safety of the materials we
> use for  
>  > repairs. But I often wonder if mouthpiece makers are as diligent over the  
>  > years. Players tent to trust the makers more than the refacer/repair
> techs.  
>  >  
>  
>

FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
Dental acrylic may not be significantly safer.  I believe the risks are in the 
repeated handling of the monomer fluid.  But the fake nail artists and users 
should die off before refacers do.  That is the warning I'm looking for.




________________________________
From: Dan Torosian <dtorosian@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:18:42 AM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work

  
From what I can find, dental acrylic is not much more expensive than nail 
acrylic.  I suppose there's a good chance they're exactly the same, but if 
you're concerned about toxicity at all, the price difference is minimal.

Dan T
FROM: dantorosian (Dan Torosian)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------The fumes from the liquid are really, really bad for you (according to
dentists I know).  
  
DT  
  
On 6/23/2011 11:58 AM, Keith Bradbury wrote:

> Dental acrylic may not be significantly safer. I believe the risks are in
> the repeated handling of the monomer fluid. But the fake nail artists and
> users should die off before refacers do. That is the warning I'm looking
> for.  
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> **From:** Dan Torosian [](mailto:dtorosian@...)  
>  **To:**
> [MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com](mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com)  
>  **Sent:** Thu, June 23, 2011 11:18:42 AM  
>  **Subject:** Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work  
>  
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>
> From what I can find, dental acrylic is not much more expensive than nail
> acrylic. I suppose there's a good chance they're exactly the same, but if
> you're concerned about toxicity at all, the price difference is minimal.  
>  
>  Dan T  
>  
>

FROM: moeaaron (Barry Levine)
SUBJECT: Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
I suppose. My father, a dentist, used this stuff, and Xylol as well, did
lots of his own acrylic work rather than sending out to a lab,  no fume
hood, lived to 86, and it's not what killed him either.

Barry

> 
> The fumes from the liquid are really, really bad for you (according to
> dentists I know).
> 
> DT
> 
> On 6/23/2011 11:58 AM, Keith Bradbury wrote:
> 
> Dental acrylic may not be significantly safer.  I believe the risks are in the
> repeated handling of the monomer fluid.  But the fake nail artists and users
> should die off before refacers do.  That is the warning I'm looking for.
> 
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> 
> From: Dan Torosian <dtorosian@...> <mailto:dtorosian@...>
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:18:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Black acrylic powder for dental work
> 
> 
> From what I can find, dental acrylic is not much more expensive than nail
> acrylic.  I suppose there's a good chance they're exactly the same, but if
> you're concerned about toxicity at all, the price difference is minimal.
> 
> Dan T
> 
>