Mouthpiece Work / re-gilding trademarks
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: re-gilding trademarks
For many years I have used trademark "crayons" to restore the gilding on
mouthpieces. Upon the suggestion of my good friend Tom Tapscott, I got a
Krylon "short cuts" paint pen at my local Ace hardware store. My life is now
changed forever! Much easier, and does a better job.

 

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SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS

 

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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: re-gilding trademarks
Odly enough, no one has ever asked me to restore mouthpiece gilding.  In case they do, I have a supply of Amaco "Rub 'n Buff".  It is between a paint paste and a shoe polish.  I use the Rub 'n Buff white to highlight the etched lines in the LAW glass gages I sell on my site.  I think it would work well on HR mouthpieces too.




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From: STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...>
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:33:28 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] re-gilding trademarks

  
For many years I have used trademark “crayons” to restore the gilding on mouthpieces. Upon the suggestion of my good friend Tom Tapscott, I got a Krylon “short cuts” paint pen at my local Ace hardware store. My life is now changed forever! Much easier, and does a better job.
 
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
 
our products are ALL rated 
 
 
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FROM: cpaok2 (kweinstein)
SUBJECT: Re: re-gilding trademarks
Have you tried the Krylon LEAFIING Pens ?  Alos, are you coating an area and then wiping clean the way you would a Trademark Crayon (in direction away) ?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: STEVE GOODSON 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:33 PM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] re-gilding trademarks


    
  For many years I have used trademark "crayons" to restore the gilding on mouthpieces. Upon the suggestion of my good friend Tom Tapscott, I got a Krylon "short cuts" paint pen at my local Ace hardware store. My life is now changed forever! Much easier, and does a better job.



  STEVE GOODSON

  SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS



  our products are ALL rated 







  PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
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  http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
  http://www.saxgourmet.com/  (saxophone history and information)
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  READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
  The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

  BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

  IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

  IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

  IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 

  LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

  YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR



  The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson



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FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: re-gilding trademarks
I haven't seen the leafing pens but will look for them...yes, I apply the
paint and then wipe the excess off and polish

 

From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of kweinstein
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:55 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] re-gilding trademarks

 

  

Have you tried the Krylon LEAFIING Pens ?  Alos, are you coating an area and
then wiping clean the way you would a Trademark Crayon (in direction away) ?

----- Original Message ----- 

From: STEVE GOODSON <mailto:saxgourmet@...>  

To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:33 PM

Subject: [MouthpieceWork] re-gilding trademarks

 

  

For many years I have used trademark "crayons" to restore the gilding on
mouthpieces. Upon the suggestion of my good friend Tom Tapscott, I got a
Krylon "short cuts" paint pen at my local Ace hardware store. My life is now
changed forever! Much easier, and does a better job.

STEVE GOODSON

SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS

our products are ALL rated 

cid:339191121@25022009-09F4

PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
 <http://www.nationofmusic.com/> http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales
and discussion forum)
 <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/>
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 <http://www.saxgourmet.com/> http://www.saxgourmet.com/  (saxophone history
and information)
 <http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/>
http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
hallway where thieves

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's
also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson

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FROM: cpaok2 (kweinstein)
SUBJECT: Re: re-gilding trademarks
Thanks will have to give 'em a try.  all the best, mark

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: STEVE GOODSON 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:00 PM
  Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] re-gilding trademarks


    
  I haven't seen the leafing pens but will look for them...yes, I apply the paint and then wipe the excess off and polish



  From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kweinstein
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:55 PM
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] re-gilding trademarks



    

  Have you tried the Krylon LEAFIING Pens ?  Alos, are you coating an area and then wiping clean the way you would a Trademark Crayon (in direction away) ?

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: STEVE GOODSON 

    To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 

    Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:33 PM

    Subject: [MouthpieceWork] re-gilding trademarks



      

    For many years I have used trademark "crayons" to restore the gilding on mouthpieces. Upon the suggestion of my good friend Tom Tapscott, I got a Krylon "short cuts" paint pen at my local Ace hardware store. My life is now changed forever! Much easier, and does a better job.

    STEVE GOODSON

    SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS

    our products are ALL rated 



    PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
    http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
    http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
    http://www.saxgourmet.com/  (saxophone history and information)
    http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

    READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
    The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

    BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

    IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

    IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

    IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 

    LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

    YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

    The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson

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FROM: dkulcinski (dkulcinski)
SUBJECT: Re: re-gilding trademarks
A little off-topic;  however, does anyone know if using a paint pen, like this, would cause any problems id used on the wood body of a clarinet or oboe?  Would it smear & fill the grain?

Thank you,

David

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
>
> For many years I have used trademark "crayons" to restore the gilding on
> mouthpieces. Upon the suggestion of my good friend Tom Tapscott, I got a
> Krylon "short cuts" paint pen at my local Ace hardware store. My life is now
> changed forever! Much easier, and does a better job.
> 
>  
> 
> STEVE GOODSON
> 
> SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
> 
>  
> 
> our products are ALL rated 
> 
>  
> 
> cid:339191121@25022009-09F4
> 
>  
> 
> PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
>  <http://www.nationofmusic.com/> http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales
> and discussion forum)
>  <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/>
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
>  <http://www.saxgourmet.com/> http://www.saxgourmet.com/  (saxophone history
> and information)
>  <http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/>
> http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)
> 
>  
> 
> READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
> The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
> hallway where thieves
> 
> BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR
> 
> IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR
> 
> IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR
> 
> IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 
> 
> LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
> 
> YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR
> 
>  
> 
> The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
> hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's
> also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson
> 
>  
> 
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FROM: cpaok2 (kweinstein1@...)
SUBJECT: Re: re-gilding trademarks
The problem with using any type of colored "filler" is the woodgrain. It is difficult (but not impossible) to get pigment out of the woodgrain surrounding the logo.  With paint, you would probably have to use some type of chemical (as Krylon states in their website instructions, follow the prior link) - this might have a drying effect, removing natural oils from the area that was being worked.  Krylon also recommends sanding the affected area. mark


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: dkulcinski 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:08 AM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: re-gilding trademarks


    A little off-topic; however, does anyone know if using a paint pen, like this, would cause any problems id used on the wood body of a clarinet or oboe? Would it smear & fill the grain?

  Thank you,

  David

  --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
  >
  > For many years I have used trademark "crayons" to restore the gilding on
  > mouthpieces. Upon the suggestion of my good friend Tom Tapscott, I got a
  > Krylon "short cuts" paint pen at my local Ace hardware store. My life is now
  > changed forever! Much easier, and does a better job.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > STEVE GOODSON
  > 
  > SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > our products are ALL rated 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > cid:339191121@25022009-09F4
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
  > <http://www.nationofmusic.com/> http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales
  > and discussion forum)
  > <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/>
  > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/ (discussion group)
  > <http://www.saxgourmet.com/> http://www.saxgourmet.com/ (saxophone history
  > and information)
  > <http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/>
  > http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/ (my personal saxophone blog)
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
  > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
  > hallway where thieves
  > 
  > BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR
  > 
  > IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR
  > 
  > IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR
  > 
  > IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 
  > 
  > LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
  > 
  > YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
  > hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's
  > also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson
  > 
  > 
  > 
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FROM: flemingml2000 (flemingml2000)
SUBJECT: Re: re-gilding trademarks
I just re-guilded a mp yesterday using a Krylon gold pen.  It was a white plastic mp with no paint left in the faint engraving and I wanted to see what brand.  I apply the paint and wipe off most of the excess when still sticky.  Then, I let it completely dry and use a very mild polish to remove the residue, trying to go "across the grain" as much as possible to make sure I don't remove the paint in the engraving.  Using a piece of cork works good because it doesn't tend to go down into the engraving like cloth would.

The mp is a "Reeves" and has a lyre above the logo.  Woohoo!!  I'm sure it's worth thousands (of pennys).  Actually, my research was that the trademark Reeves was used by various entities on both sides of the Atlantic when this vintage piece was made (and now Reeves is a trademark for an Asian sax).

I've also used the metalic gold Krylon pen to re-guild wood clarinet logos.  The last one was kind of an elaborate logo that I wanted to stand out.  What I did was used a black "grease pencil" (actually wax) to carefully color/mask the area around the logo and fill in the wood grain, being careful not to get any in the engraving.  Then, when the paint was applied to the engraving, it rubbed off of the majority of the surrounding area easily.  Once the paint dried, the wax can be polished off and reveal the wood grain again.  There was still a slight amount of gold glitter that managed to stay in the residual wax in the grain, but only noticable to me.  Turned out so nice I even took a photo.

Mark