Does anyone know how the mouthpiece neck transition is made in the Tarogota?  It is a Hungarian wood instrument with a tapered bore and looks like a straigh sop sax.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A1rogat%C3%B3

The mouthpiece looks like it would have a clarinet tenon design.  

I have seen some pics of an alto and tenor versions that have what look like metal alto and tenor necks on them.  

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
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> Does anyone know how the mouthpiece neck transition is made in the Tarogota?  It is a Hungarian wood instrument with a tapered bore and looks like a straigh sop sax.  
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A1rogat%C3%B3
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> The mouthpiece looks like it would have a clarinet tenon design.  
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> I have seen some pics of an alto and tenor versions that have what look like metal alto and tenor necks on them.
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Maybe this helps http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://hungaria.org/hal/folklor/tarogato/tarogato_2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hungaria.org/hal/folklor/tarogato/&usg=__ajjayV_p-tUzBbmGEQlYVRXJEBo=&h=393&w=1131&sz=91&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=un3T_TjQiwDbUM:&tbnh=52&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DT%25C3%25A1rogat%25C3%25B3%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1

I can't find any picts of the larger versions.  Do you have links?

--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:

From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Tarogota
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 6:21 PM






 




    
                  Does anyone know how the mouthpiece neck transition is made in the Tarogota?  It is a Hungarian wood instrument with a tapered bore and looks like a straigh sop sax.  



http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ T%C3%A1rogat% C3%B3



The mouthpiece looks like it would have a clarinet tenon design.  



I have seen some pics of an alto and tenor versions that have what look like metal alto and tenor necks on them.  




 

      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

See Stephen Fox's site.

http://www.sfoxclarinets.com/Tarogatoart.html

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, MartinMods <lancelotburt@...> wrote:

I can't find any picts of the larger versions..  Do you have links?




      

Since most of these "odd birds" ,cl wise, play in the key of G, somewhat  
between the Bb/A cl and the F/ Eb BH/ alto cls, prob either mp would work,  a 
matter of tenon-fit, choice and sound ??  Have fun !   Don
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Thanks, Keith.

All the "soprano" sized instruments all have clarinet-style mouthpieces and tenons.  The larger versions have what looks like normal saxophone-type necks and moutnpieces.  Interesting,  What significance would you attribute to this difference?  Convenience or acoustics?   

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:

From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Tarogota
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 8:41 PM






 




    
                  See Stephen Fox's site.



http://www.sfoxclar inets.com/ Tarogatoart. html



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I can't find any picts of the larger versions..  Do you have links?




 

      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	

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The brown sop (2nd pic from left) has a sax-like mouthpiece.  The tenon is on the upper section of the Tarogota body.  So it looks like both designs are in use (MF & FM).
 
I have read that the Tarogota was invented shortly after the sax.  I would doubt that its inventor(s) knew more about acoustics than Sax did though.  But who knows?  Differences could be motivated by acoustic theory, mis-applied air flow concerns, wood cracks during manufacturing/use, trial and error....

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From: MartinMods <lancelotburt@...>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Tarogota
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:36 AM


  







Thanks, Keith.

All the "soprano" sized instruments all have clarinet-style mouthpieces and tenons.  The larger versions have what looks like normal saxophone-type necks and moutnpieces.  Interesting,  What significance would you attribute to this difference?  Convenience or acoustics?   

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Tarogota
To: MouthpieceWork@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 8:41 PM


  

See Stephen Fox's site.

http://www.sfoxclar inets.com/ Tarogatoart. html

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, MartinMods <lancelotburt@ yahoo.com> wrote:

I can't find any picts of the larger versions..  Do you have links?


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I almost bought one of these on eBay once and did some
research. Most of them are miserably out of tune,
apparently, which perhaps adds to the rustic charm. Those
made by Stowasser are supposed to be pretty good, although
the new ones not nearly as good as the older ones. The
rest you really take your chances.

Toby

--- Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:

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> The brown sop (2nd pic from left) has a sax-like
> mouthpiece.  The tenon is on the upper section of
> the Tarogota body.  So it looks like both designs
> are in use (MF & FM).
>  
> I have read that the Tarogota was invented shortly
> after the sax.  I would doubt that its inventor(s)
> knew more about acoustics than Sax did though.  But
> who knows?  Differences could be motivated by
> acoustic theory, mis-applied air flow concerns, wood
> cracks during manufacturing/use, trial and error....
> 
> --- On Sat, 8/22/09, MartinMods
> <lancelotburt@...> wrote:
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> From: MartinMods <lancelotburt@...>
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Tarogota
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:36 AM
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> Thanks, Keith.
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> All the "soprano" sized instruments all have
> clarinet-style mouthpieces and tenons.  The larger
> versions have what looks like normal saxophone-type
> necks and moutnpieces.  Interesting,  What
> significance would you attribute to this
> difference?  Convenience or acoustics?   
> 
> --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Keith Bradbury
> <kwbradbury@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> From: Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Tarogota
> To: MouthpieceWork@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 8:41 PM
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> See Stephen Fox's site.
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> http://www.sfoxclar inets.com/ Tarogatoart. html
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> --- On Thu, 8/20/09, MartinMods <lancelotburt@
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> you have links?
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