Mouthpiece Work / metal darkening for video shoot
FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON)
SUBJECT: metal darkening for video shoot
 
We're going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week.
I've been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us
with a problem we have encountered.
 
We're using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken
the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High
contrast is important. I've been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and
leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any
suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
 
SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls
 

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FROM: sonusrepair (Tom Tapscott)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
What about using Polarizers on the lighting instead?
Or perhaps some other kind of filters?

Tom


--- On Sun, 4/26/09, STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
From: STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON <saxgourmet@cox.net>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 3:42 PM











    
            
            


      
      








We’re going to
shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I’ve been
rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem
we have encountered. 

   

We’re using all
brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when
we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I’ve
been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe
something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated. 

   

STEVE GOODSON 

SAXOPHONE
DESIGNER TO THE STARS 

   

SKYPE
TO SAXGOURMET for video calls 

  

 

BASIC SHOP RATE........ ........$ 100/HR 

IF YOU WATCH....... ......... .....$125/ HR 

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS... ...$150/HR 

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT  

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN 

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/ HR 

   

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FROM: bigjujumon (Joshua Therriault)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
I believe it's possible to put a patina on brass with sulfur.  I may be wrong though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2009, at 3:42 PM, "STEVE \"SAXGOURMET\" GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote:



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We’re going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I’ve been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem we have encountered.

 

We’re using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I’ve been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

STEVE GOODSON

SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS

 

SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls

 

<image003.jpg>

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

 

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FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
My camera crew may have that available. Today, for rehearsal purposes, the camera crew is my wife Sharon and my Sony camcorder….I think it’s important to be able to see where the actual cuts are made and material removed…..we had some gun blueing on hand (you learn to keep stuff like that here in New Orleans) and it worked OK. 
 
I know we will get better contrast and resolution with a professional camera, camera operator, and lighting. We’ll have all of those things present at the actual shoot.
 
From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Tapscott
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:49 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot
 

What about using Polarizers on the lighting instead?
Or perhaps some other kind of filters?

Tom


--- On Sun, 4/26/09, STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
From: STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON <saxgourmet@...>
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 3:42 PM

We’re going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I’ve been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem we have encountered.
 
We’re using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I’ve been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
 
SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls
 

BASIC SHOP RATE........ ........$ 100/HR
IF YOU WATCH....... ......... .....$125/ HR
IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS... ...$150/HR
IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 
LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/ HR
 
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FROM: kc_tone2008 (kc.tone@...)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
Steve, 
Birchwood Casey makes a product called "brass black" that would work quite well for what your trying to do. It's usually sold near the gun bluing supplies.  

Mark
www.bachorndoctor.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Therriault 

Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:53:11 
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot


I believe it's possible to put a patina on brass with sulfur.  I may be wrong though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2009, at 3:42 PM, "STEVE \"SAXGOURMET\" GOODSON"  wrote:




We’re going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I’ve been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem we have encountered.

 

We’re using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I’ve been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

STEVE GOODSON

SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS

 

SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls

 



BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

 

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FROM: greatstuffmusic (Geoff Secomb)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
Try Nikko oil marker pen.
Geoff.

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  From: STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:42 AM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot





   

  We're going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I've been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem we have encountered.



  We're using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I've been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated.



  STEVE GOODSON

  SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS



  SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls





  BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

  IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

  IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

  IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 

  LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

  YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR



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FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
Thanks! That’s the brand of gun blueing I was using. We’re going to the gun store tomorrow (Hurricane season starts in 30 days, need to be sure all the anti-looter supplies are on hand) and I’ll pick some up!
 
From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kc.tone@...
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:01 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot
 




Steve, 
Birchwood Casey makes a product called "brass black" that would work quite well for what your trying to do. It's usually sold near the gun bluing supplies. 

Mark
www.bachorndoctor.com 
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
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From: Joshua Therriault 
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com<MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot
I believe it's possible to put a patina on brass with sulfur.  I may be wrong though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2009, at 3:42 PM, "STEVE \"SAXGOURMET\" GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
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We’re going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I’ve been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem we have encountered.
 
We’re using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I’ve been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
STEVE GOODSON
SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS
 
SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls
 
<image003.jpg>
BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR
IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR
IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR
IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 
LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN
YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR
 
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FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman1952)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "STEVE \"SAXGOURMET\" GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks! That’s the brand of gun blueing I was using. We’re going to the gun store tomorrow (Hurricane season starts in 30 days, need to be sure all the anti-looter supplies are on hand) and I’ll pick some up!


Why not simply use a Magic Marker?  When done, you can remove the marker with lacquer thinner.

Paul
FROM: heli_av8tor (Tom De Winter)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
Could use Dykem marking fluid. Comes in red & blue, brushes on and drys quickly. It's used by machinists. It will clean off with lacquer thinner, MEK, etc.

Tom De Winter

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:42 PM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot





   

  We're going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I've been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem we have encountered.



  We're using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I've been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated.



  STEVE GOODSON

  SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS



  SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls





  BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

  IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

  IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

  IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 

  LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

  YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR



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FROM: bigjujumon (Joshua Therriault)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
Actually now that I think of it.  What's the problem with using good ol' sharpies and de-natured alchohol.
Easy clean up and cheap.



On Apr 26, 2009, at 9:07 PM, "Tom De Winter" <tdewinter@...> wrote:



Could use Dykem marking fluid. Comes in red & blue, brushes on and drys quickly. It's used by machinists. It will clean off with lacquer thinner, MEK, etc.
 
Tom De Winter
 
----- Original Message -----
From: STEVE "SAXGOURMET" GOODSON
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] metal darkening for video shoot

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We’re going to shoot our often delayed mouthpiece refacing video next week. I’ve been rehearsing over the weekend, and hopefully somebody can help us with a problem we have encountered.


We’re using all brass mouthpieces for our demonstrations. We need to darken the brass so when we make a cut it shows up as a shiny surface. High contrast is important. I’ve been using gun blueing, which dries quickly and leaves a very thin coat. Maybe something else works better, and any suggestions would be much appreciated.


STEVE GOODSON

SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS


SKYPE TO SAXGOURMET for video calls


<image003.jpg>

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT 

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR


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FROM: flemingml2000 (flemingml2000)
SUBJECT: Re: metal darkening for video shoot
Jax makes a "Brass, Bronze, and Copper Darkener" used for putting a brown/black patina on arts and crafts style metal working.  If you set the brass piece in a little puddle, it turns very dark in a minute.  It can still be removed with a regular polish (or by sanding a mp face).  There are other brands of acid finishes, most of which can be shipped by common carrier.

Mark