Mouthpiece Work / Mouthpiece Rails!
FROM: steviewah1 (Steven Lyons)
SUBJECT: Mouthpiece Rails!
I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. I have my first mouthpiece in front of me and want to make this one similar but the rails seem to be the problem for me. They are very slim and angle out at the tip. I'm wondering what the suggestions would be for trimming down the rails. I have a dremil on order but it seems to me that this would be much to fast for such a delicate job. Should I consider some files? If so what brand might be in order for this job. I would appreciate knowing what you do for this task. Thanks in advance. Steve
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
--- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? Files and sandpaper wrapped around files is a good way to get started. Take a look at the photos on my site for some ideas. Micro-Mark has some inexpensive file sets but they will not last long on metal mouthpieces. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
FROM: steviewah1 (Steven Lyons)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > > --- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: > > > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. > > Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? > > Files and sandpaper wrapped around files is a good way to get started. > Take a look at the photos on my site for some ideas. Micro-Mark has some > inexpensive file sets but they will not last long on metal mouthpieces. > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > It is a rubber mouthpiece from France. Would files work on hard rubber? Is that the standard way that craftsmen work on the inside of the rails? Are there any alternatives to this such as the Dremil? I appreciate your help. Steven
FROM: gregwier (Greg Wier)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Just to clarify, Robert Borbeck mouthpieces are hard rubber for clarinet. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > > --- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: > > > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. > > Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping >
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
I would strongly suggest not using a Dremel on rubber, since it is very easy on such soft material to make a small slip that will dig a big hole in it. Precision files are the only way to go IMO. You can also use small strips of fine grit sandpaper wrapped around a small (tiny) rod for fine work. 3M makes small sandpaper rolls with adhesive backing, but what I do is to cut a small piece of sandpaper, wrap it around a very fine brush handle and hold it in place. The paper clogs up quite quickly, so it is very easy just to move it slightly to fresh grit when that happens. HTH Toby ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Lyons To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Mouthpiece Rails! --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > > --- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: > > > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. > > Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? > > Files and sandpaper wrapped around files is a good way to get started. > Take a look at the photos on my site for some ideas. Micro-Mark has some > inexpensive file sets but they will not last long on metal mouthpieces. > > > __________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > It is a rubber mouthpiece from France. Would files work on hard rubber? Is that the standard way that craftsmen work on the inside of the rails? Are there any alternatives to this such as the Dremil? I appreciate your help. Steven
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
I have had good luck with diamond files on metal mpcs, but then tend to cut a bit rough so you have to be careful and finish with normal files. I don't know about in the US but in Japan precision diamond files in various shapes can be had for about 80 cents each (made in China, of course). Toby ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Bradbury To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! --- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? Files and sandpaper wrapped around files is a good way to get started. Take a look at the photos on my site for some ideas. Micro-Mark has some inexpensive file sets but they will not last long on metal mouthpieces. __________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Yes, a wide flat file is the tool to use here. You can reshape the sides in just seconds. Then sand lightly with 600 silicon carbide paper, then 800, then 1000. Finally, after all mouthpiece work is done, as a last step, hand polish with a good grade of plastic polish. If it is a metal mouthpiece, start with 320 paper, and finish with some metal polish. Then brush plate and polish the filed area to match. Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. I have my first mouthpiece in front of me and want to make this one similar but the rails seem to be the problem for me. They are very slim and angle out at the tip. I'm wondering what the suggestions would be for trimming down the rails. I have a dremil on order but it seems to me that this would be much to fast for such a delicate job. Should I consider some files? If so what brand might be in order for this job. I would appreciate knowing what you do for this task. Thanks in advance. Steve Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet": http://www.saxgourmet.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax.com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@... --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Use a wide flat file on the outside. Use narrower flat files on the inside. A dremel tool is not the tool to use here. You cannot control it that well. Use files and sandpaper wrapped around files. Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > > --- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: > > > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. > > Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? > > Files and sandpaper wrapped around files is a good way to get started. > Take a look at the photos on my site for some ideas. Micro-Mark has some > inexpensive file sets but they will not last long on metal mouthpieces. > > > __________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > It is a rubber mouthpiece from France. Would files work on hard rubber? Is that the standard way that craftsmen work on the inside of the rails? Are there any alternatives to this such as the Dremil? I appreciate your help. Steven Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet": http://www.saxgourmet.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax.com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@... --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Also, clean your files often. Use a "file card", which is a type of wire brush, to clean the teeth of the file. Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote: > > > --- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: > > > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. > > Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? > > Files and sandpaper wrapped around files is a good way to get started. > Take a look at the photos on my site for some ideas. Micro-Mark has some > inexpensive file sets but they will not last long on metal mouthpieces. > > > __________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > It is a rubber mouthpiece from France. Would files work on hard rubber? Is that the standard way that craftsmen work on the inside of the rails? Are there any alternatives to this such as the Dremil? I appreciate your help. Steven Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet": http://www.saxgourmet.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax.com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@... --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
FROM: gregwier (Greg Wier)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
I wouldn't entirely rule out using the dremel on rubber, with the right attachment for the job, a flex shaft and a gentle careful hand and plenty of experience you can save time with a Dremel or my foot controlled Foredom drill. > I would strongly suggest not using a Dremel on rubber. > > HTH > > Toby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Lyons > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 2:00 PM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Mouthpiece Rails! > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@> wrote: > > > > > > --- Steven Lyons <steviewah1@> wrote: > > > > > I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. > > > > Never hood of it. What kind of material is it made of? > > > > Files and sandpaper wrapped around files is a good way to get started. > > Take a look at the photos on my site for some ideas. Micro-Mark has some > > inexpensive file sets but they will not last long on metal mouthpieces. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > > > It is a rubber mouthpiece from France. Would files work on hard rubber? Is that the > standard way that craftsmen work on the inside of the rails? Are there any alternatives to > this such as the Dremil? I appreciate your help. Steven >
FROM: steviewah1 (Steven Lyons)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Is there a certain file and width that you have found best to use? Is there a good brand? Steve ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul C. <tenorman1952@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! Yes, a wide flat file is the tool to use here. You can reshape the sides in just seconds. Then sand lightly with 600 silicon carbide paper, then 800, then 1000. Finally, after all mouthpiece work is done, as a last step, hand polish with a good grade of plastic polish. If it is a metal mouthpiece, start with 320 paper, and finish with some metal polish. Then brush plate and polish the filed area to match. Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@yahoo. com> wrote: I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. I have my first mouthpiece in front of me and want to make this one similar but the rails seem to be the problem for me. They are very slim and angle out at the tip. I'm wondering what the suggestions would be for trimming down the rails. I have a dremil on order but it seems to me that this would be much to fast for such a delicate job. Should I consider some files? If so what brand might be in order for this job. I would appreciate knowing what you do for this task. Thanks in advance. Steve Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet" : http://www.saxgourm et.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase. yahoo.com/ tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax. com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@saxrax. com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
FROM: steviewah1 (Steven Lyons)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Additionally, is the file you suggest a wood file, a metal file or something else? I am doing this on a hard rubber mouthpiece. Thanks again. Steven ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul C. <tenorman1952@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! Yes, a wide flat file is the tool to use here. You can reshape the sides in just seconds. Then sand lightly with 600 silicon carbide paper, then 800, then 1000. Finally, after all mouthpiece work is done, as a last step, hand polish with a good grade of plastic polish. If it is a metal mouthpiece, start with 320 paper, and finish with some metal polish. Then brush plate and polish the filed area to match. Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@yahoo. com> wrote: I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. I have my first mouthpiece in front of me and want to make this one similar but the rails seem to be the problem for me. They are very slim and angle out at the tip. I'm wondering what the suggestions would be for trimming down the rails. I have a dremil on order but it seems to me that this would be much to fast for such a delicate job. Should I consider some files? If so what brand might be in order for this job. I would appreciate knowing what you do for this task. Thanks in advance. Steve Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet" : http://www.saxgourm et.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase. yahoo.com/ tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax. com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@saxrax. com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
For the outside of the mouthpiece, I use an ordinary flat file, about 5/8" wide. For the inside, I use a flat file about 1/4" wide from a set from MicroMark.com Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: Is there a certain file and width that you have found best to use? Is there a good brand? Steve ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul C. <tenorman1952@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! Yes, a wide flat file is the tool to use here. You can reshape the sides in just seconds.. Then sand lightly with 600 silicon carbide paper, then 800, then 1000. Finally, after all mouthpiece work is done, as a last step, hand polish with a good grade of plastic polish. If it is a metal mouthpiece, start with 320 paper, and finish with some metal polish.. Then brush plate and polish the filed area to match. Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@yahoo. com> wrote: I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. I have my first mouthpiece in front of me and want to make this one similar but the rails seem to be the problem for me. They are very slim and angle out at the tip. I'm wondering what the suggestions would be for trimming down the rails. I have a dremil on order but it seems to me that this would be much to fast for such a delicate job. Should I consider some files? If so what brand might be in order for this job. I would appreciate knowing what you do for this task. Thanks in advance. Steve Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet" : http://www.saxgourm et.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase. yahoo.com/ tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax. com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@saxrax. com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet": http://www.saxgourmet.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax.com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@... --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Metal file Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> wrote: Additionally, is the file you suggest a wood file, a metal file or something else? I am doing this on a hard rubber mouthpiece. Thanks again. Steven ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul C. <tenorman1952@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! Yes, a wide flat file is the tool to use here. You can reshape the sides in just seconds. Then sand lightly with 600 silicon carbide paper, then 800, then 1000. Finally, after all mouthpiece work is done, as a last step, hand polish with a good grade of plastic polish. If it is a metal mouthpiece, start with 320 paper, and finish with some metal polish. Then brush plate and polish the filed area to match. Paul Steven Lyons <steviewah1@yahoo. com> wrote: I have just finished taking the stats on a Borbeck 11 TFA. I have my first mouthpiece in front of me and want to make this one similar but the rails seem to be the problem for me. They are very slim and angle out at the tip. I'm wondering what the suggestions would be for trimming down the rails. I have a dremil on order but it seems to me that this would be much to fast for such a delicate job. Should I consider some files? If so what brand might be in order for this job. I would appreciate knowing what you do for this task. Thanks in advance. Steve Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet" : http://www.saxgourm et.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase. yahoo.com/ tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax. com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@saxrax. com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet": http://www.saxgourmet.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax.com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@... --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
FROM: moeaaron (Barry Isaac Levine)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
> From: Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> > Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:54:13 -0800 (PST) > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! > > Additionally, is the file you suggest a wood file, a metal file or something > else? I am doing this on a hard rubber mouthpiece. Thanks again. Steven > I found a reasonably priced ($7.95) set of "riffler files" at http://www.sciplus.com, item 10955. These small files have a bend at the ends. Some are flat files with no teeth on different edges, others are rounded and tapered at the tip. I find them especially useful for fine adjustments near the tip of the mouthpiece, such as thinning out the tip rail, and removing baffle just behind the tip rail. Ok for rubber, plastic, brass, but I don't know about stainless steel As Paul noted, file teeth get clogged. I found an inexpensive fine wire brush that looks like a large black toothbrush in my local hardware store that works well to clean files. Barry
FROM: steviewah1 (Steven Lyons)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
Thanks Barry! Steve ----- Original Message ---- From: Barry Isaac Levine <barrylevine@...> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:44:55 PM Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! > From: Steven Lyons <steviewah1@yahoo. com> > Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:54:13 -0800 (PST) > To: MouthpieceWork@ yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! > > Additionally, is the file you suggest a wood file, a metal file or something > else? I am doing this on a hard rubber mouthpiece. Thanks again. Steven > I found a reasonably priced ($7.95) set of "riffler files" at http://www.sciplus. com, item 10955. These small files have a bend at the ends. Some are flat files with no teeth on different edges, others are rounded and tapered at the tip. I find them especially useful for fine adjustments near the tip of the mouthpiece, such as thinning out the tip rail, and removing baffle just behind the tip rail. Ok for rubber, plastic, brass, but I don't know about stainless steel As Paul noted, file teeth get clogged. I found an inexpensive fine wire brush that looks like a large black toothbrush in my local hardware store that works well to clean files. Barry ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
This file set is similar to one I have. I use mostly the one 6th from the left. Item Number: 33108 http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=33108 The handle I use on my files is plastic, but Micromark has a wood handle that will work well. Item Number 82649 Here is a file card at Micromark similar to the one I use. Item Number: 70216 http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=70216 Paul Coats Barry Isaac Levine <barrylevine@...> wrote: > From: Steven Lyons <steviewah1@...> > Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:54:13 -0800 (PST) > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece Rails! > > Additionally, is the file you suggest a wood file, a metal file or something > else? I am doing this on a hard rubber mouthpiece. Thanks again. Steven > I found a reasonably priced ($7.95) set of "riffler files" at http://www.sciplus.com, item 10955. These small files have a bend at the ends. Some are flat files with no teeth on different edges, others are rounded and tapered at the tip. I find them especially useful for fine adjustments near the tip of the mouthpiece, such as thinning out the tip rail, and removing baffle just behind the tip rail. Ok for rubber, plastic, brass, but I don't know about stainless steel As Paul noted, file teeth get clogged. I found an inexpensive fine wire brush that looks like a large black toothbrush in my local hardware store that works well to clean files. Barry Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet": http://www.saxgourmet.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax.com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@... --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Files
I started out with several file sets from Micro-Mark. They are economical and you can learn what file shapes you like best. If you use them on metal, they will dull. As they dull, you can buy replacement sets or individual files. But I decided to get some Valititan needle files. They are noted by the yellow tang. They cost ~8X more, but they last. I like the half round, barrette and square files. http://www.ottofrei.com/store/home.php?cat&5 They also do not seem to load up as much. I'm not sure why, but the 0 and 00 cuts that I use rarely need to be cleaned with a file card. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
FROM: skygardener1 (skygardener1)
SUBJECT: Re: Mouthpiece Rails!
As far as using a Dremil on mouthpieces, I find them very useful when repairing chipped or broken pieces. I put a lot of epoxy on the broken area to be on the safe side and I use the Dremil for the first cut to save time. But for anything other than that, files and sandpaper are the best I have found.
FROM: gregwier (Greg Wier)
SUBJECT: Files
Hi Keith: Where did you get the Otto Frei files? One of the things that help eliminate deep gouging scratches is to grind the sharp points into a smooth round tip on the file.
FROM: mvprod7991 (Mike Vaccaro)
SUBJECT: Files
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