I've got a box full of these. I know the guy making them. This is a
bargain.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Gold-Plated-Tenor-Saxophone-Sax-Mouthpiece_W0QQitemZ
150198806908QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38112QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

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> From: " STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...>
> Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:04:09 -0600
> To: <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay
> 
> I've got a box full of these. I know the guy making them. This is a
> bargain.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Gold-Plated-Tenor-Saxophone-Sax-Mouthpiece_W0QQitemZ
> 150198806908QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38112QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Very nice looking... but listed as having only a .067" tip opening. 

I know the  maker makes a variety of openings. The biggest one of those I
have is .115, although I was told you could get anything you want.

  _____  

From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Barry Isaac Levine
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:22 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay




> From: " STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@cox. <mailto:saxgourmet%40cox.net> net>
> Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@ <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:04:09 -0600
> To: <MouthpieceWork@ <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay
> 
> I've got a box full of these. I know the guy making them. This is a
> bargain.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.
<http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Gold-Plated-Tenor-Saxophone-Sax-Mouthpiece_W0QQitem
Z> com/Pro-Gold-Plated-Tenor-Saxophone-Sax-Mouthpiece_W0QQitemZ
> 150198806908QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38112QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Very nice looking... but listed as having only a .067" tip opening. 



 

Sorry for the newbie question -- I haven't, as of yet, done any mouthpiece
work... I've basically been trying to glean as much information from this
fantastic group before I start getting involved in such work...
 
However, one question:
 
If was to purchase a mouthpiece with a .067" tip opening (such as the one
listed on eBay) - How far (within reason) will I be able to open it up
before suffering any dire consequences?
 
Would I be able to open it up to .130"? Or, is that asking too much?
 
Thanks in advance for tolerating me... :-)
 
Sincerely,
               Karsten J. Chikuri
 


  _____  

From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of STEVE GOODSON
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:56 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay





I know the  maker makes a variety of openings. The biggest one of those I
have is .115, although I was told you could get anything you want.

  _____  

From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Barry Isaac Levine
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:22 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay




> From: " STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@cox. <mailto:saxgourmet%40cox.net> net>
> Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@ <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:04:09 -0600
> To: <MouthpieceWork@ <mailto:MouthpieceWork%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay
> 
> I've got a box full of these. I know the guy making them. This is a
> bargain.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.
<http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Gold-Plated-Tenor-Saxophone-Sax-Mouthpiece_W0QQitem
Z> com/Pro-Gold-Plated-Tenor-Saxophone-Sax-Mouthpiece_W0QQitemZ
> 150198806908QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38112QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Very nice looking... but listed as having only a .067" tip opening. 





 

--- "Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk@...> wrote:
>  
> If was to purchase a mouthpiece with a .067" tip opening (such as the one
> listed on eBay) - How far (within reason) will I be able to open it up
> before suffering any dire consequences?
>  
> Would I be able to open it up to .130"? Or, is that asking too much?
>  

it would be really difficult to open it that much.  It would distort the
shape of the mouthpiece a lot.  You would need to do a combination of tip
cutting and angling the table.  With a lot of tip cutting, the tip will get
razor sharp and you will need to file it blunt again.  This shortens the
mouthpiece.  With table angling, the ligature will get loose.  

You might get .020-.030" with tip cutting, and .010-.020 with angling the
table.  You will need to reshape the side and tip rails and the baffle. 
The plating will be toast.


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Thanks Mr. Bradbury -- that was sort of what I thought...
 
So - as a general rule of thumb, it's best to get a mouthpiece that's close
to the 'target' and work from there... correct?
 
I was just wondering - because, like Mr. Levine, it seems to me that .067"
seems awfully closed for a Tenor mouthpiece...
 
Thanks again!
 
Sincerely,
               Karsten J. Chikuri
 


  _____  

From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Keith Bradbury
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay



--- "Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk@mwt. <mailto:chikurk%40mwt.net> net>
wrote:
> 
> If was to purchase a mouthpiece with a .067" tip opening (such as the one
> listed on eBay) - How far (within reason) will I be able to open it up
> before suffering any dire consequences?
> 
> Would I be able to open it up to .130"? Or, is that asking too much?
> 

it would be really difficult to open it that much. It would distort the
shape of the mouthpiece a lot. You would need to do a combination of tip
cutting and angling the table. With a lot of tip cutting, the tip will get
razor sharp and you will need to file it blunt again. This shortens the
mouthpiece. With table angling, the ligature will get loose. 

You might get .020-.030" with tip cutting, and .010-.020 with angling the
table. You will need to reshape the side and tip rails and the baffle. 
The plating will be toast.

__________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo. <http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> com/r/hs


 

Another thing that sometimes happens, besides running out of tip, is that you can file into the bite plate area as you reshape the baffle to flow into the tip rail.
   
  You simply run out of metal to remove.
   
  Paul

"Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk@...> wrote:
            Thanks Mr. Bradbury -- that was sort of what I thought...
   
  So - as a general rule of thumb, it's best to get a mouthpiece that's close to the 'target' and work from there... correct?
   
  I was just wondering - because, like Mr. Levine, it seems to me that .067" seems awfully closed for a Tenor mouthpiece...
   
  Thanks again!
   
  Sincerely,
                 Karsten J. Chikuri
   

      
---------------------------------
  From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Bradbury
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay


  
    --- "Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk@...> wrote:
> 
> If was to purchase a mouthpiece with a .067" tip opening (such as the one
> listed on eBay) - How far (within reason) will I be able to open it up
> before suffering any dire consequences?
> 
> Would I be able to open it up to .130"? Or, is that asking too much?
> 

it would be really difficult to open it that much. It would distort the
shape of the mouthpiece a lot. You would need to do a combination of tip
cutting and angling the table. With a lot of tip cutting, the tip will get
razor sharp and you will need to file it blunt again. This shortens the
mouthpiece. With table angling, the ligature will get loose. 

You might get .020-.030" with tip cutting, and .010-.020 with angling the
table. You will need to reshape the side and tip rails and the baffle. 
The plating will be toast.

__________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


  

                         


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This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------I have cut through to the bite plate a couple of times. While you probably
want to avoid it, there doesn't seem to be a problem with playability. The
baffle surface is still smooth.  
  
When I started doing this, I tried all sorts of stuff on mouthpieces, and I
still do some "major restructuring" projects, but it generally works best to
optimize a given mouthpiece rather than try to turn it into something else.
Opening a tip that much is inadvisable, for all the reasons already mentioned
- you'll change so many other dimensions of the piece (rail thickness, table
width, chamber volume, baffle height, tip thickness, length...) in doing so
that you'll have a ton of "remedial" work to do. Unless you're up for that,
I'd start with a larger-tip mouthpiece or just open this one a modest amount
(.085?)  
  
Dan T  
  
Paul C. wrote:

> Another thing that sometimes happens, besides running out of tip, is that
> you can file into the bite plate area as you reshape the baffle to flow into
> the tip rail.
>
> You simply run out of metal to remove.
>
> Paul  
>  
>  **_"Karsten J. Chikuri" net>_** wrote:
>

>> Thanks Mr. Bradbury -- that was sort of what I thought...

>>

>> So - as a general rule of thumb, it's best to get a mouthpiece that's close
to the 'target' and work from there... correct?

>>

>> I was just wondering - because, like Mr. Levine, it seems to me that .067"
seems awfully closed for a Tenor mouthpiece...

>>

>> Thanks again!

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> &n;! bsp;&nbs; p; Karsten J. Chikuri

>>

>>  
>
>>

>>> * * *

>>>

>>> **From:** MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
[[mailto:MouthpieceW](mailto:MouthpieceW)ork@yahoogroups.com] **On Behalf Of**
Keith Bradbury  
>  **Sent:** Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:48 PM  
>  **To:** MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com  
>  **Subject:** RE: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese mouthpiece on eBay  
>  
>
>>>

>>> \\--- "Karsten J. Chikuri" <[chikurk@mwt.net](mailto:chikurk%40mwt.net)>
wrote:  
>  >  
>  > If was to purchase a mouthpiece with a .067" tip opening (such as the one  
>  > listed on eBay) - How far (within reason) will I be able to open it up  
>  > before suffering any dire consequences?  
>  >  
>  > Would I be able to open it up to .130"? Or, is that asking too much?  
>  >  
>  
>  it would be really difficult to open it that much. It would distort the  
>  shape of the mouthpiece a lot. You would need to do a combination of tip  
>  cutting and angling the table. With a lot of tip cutting, the tip will get  
>  razor sharp and you will need to file it blunt again. This shortens the  
>  mouthpiece. With table angling, the ligature will get loose.  
>  
>  You might get .020-.030" with tip cutting, and .010-.020 with angling the  
>  table. You will need to reshape the side and tip rails and the baffle.  
>  The plating will be toast.  
>  
>  __________________________________________________________  
>  Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.  
>  [http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs](http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs)  
>
>
>  
>  
>  
>  Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet":  
>  et.com  
>  Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at:  
>  .yahoo.com/tenorman1952  
>  
>  Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from  
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Suppose you want to play this mouthpiece as is for a
"classical" type setup.  Wonder how hard a reed the
average player would have to use.  It is a beautiful
MP.

Brian

--- "Paul C." <tenorman1952@...> wrote:

> Another thing that sometimes happens, besides
> running out of tip, is that you can file into the
> bite plate area as you reshape the baffle to flow
> into the tip rail.
>    
>   You simply run out of metal to remove.
>    
>   Paul
> 
> "Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk@...> wrote:
>             Thanks Mr. Bradbury -- that was sort of
> what I thought...
>    
>   So - as a general rule of thumb, it's best to get
> a mouthpiece that's close to the 'target' and work
> from there... correct?
>    
>   I was just wondering - because, like Mr. Levine,
> it seems to me that .067" seems awfully closed for a
> Tenor mouthpiece...
>    
>   Thanks again!
>    
>   Sincerely,
>                  Karsten J. Chikuri
>    
> 
>       
> ---------------------------------
>   From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Keith Bradbury
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:48 PM
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Excellent Chinese
> mouthpiece on eBay
> 
> 
>   
>     --- "Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk@...>
> wrote:
> > 
> > If was to purchase a mouthpiece with a .067" tip
> opening (such as the one
> > listed on eBay) - How far (within reason) will I
> be able to open it up
> > before suffering any dire consequences?
> > 
> > Would I be able to open it up to .130"? Or, is
> that asking too much?
> > 
> 
> it would be really difficult to open it that much.
> It would distort the
> shape of the mouthpiece a lot. You would need to do
> a combination of tip
> cutting and angling the table. With a lot of tip
> cutting, the tip will get
> razor sharp and you will need to file it blunt
> again. This shortens the
> mouthpiece. With table angling, the ligature will
> get loose. 
> 
> You might get .020-.030" with tip cutting, and
> .010-.020 with angling the
> table. You will need to reshape the side and tip
> rails and the baffle. 
> The plating will be toast.
> 
>
__________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. 
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> 
> 
>   
> 
>                          
> 
> 
> Link to Paul's articles from Main page of
> "Saxgourmet":
> 		http://www.saxgourmet.com
> Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at:
>            http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952
> 
> Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX
> products from 
> http://www.saxrax.com 
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> saxraxus@...
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I just received an alto #7 mpc and a tenor #7 mpc. Can't comment on
the alto piece yet...other than it is unique. The tenor plays
fantastic!  A great copy. A very nice playing copy. A very inexpensive
copy! BTW, the ebay ad says 0.067" for the tip, I measured 0.078".

Thanks for the tip, Steve!

On Dec 29, 2007 1:04 PM, STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   I've got a box full of these. I know the guy making them. This is a
> bargain.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Gold-Plated-Tenor-Saxophone-Sax-Mouthpiece_W0QQitemZ150198806908QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38112QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> PLEASE VISIT MY WEB SITES
>
> http://www.orpheusmusic.com
>
> http://stevegoodsonsaxophones.com
>
> http://www.nationofmusic.com
>
> http://www.saxnation.com/forum/
>
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/
>
> http://www.saxgourmet.com
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/saxgourmet
>
> http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/
>
> The Music Business is a cruel and  shallow money trench, a long plastic
> hallway where thieves and  pimps run free and good men die like dogs.
> There's also a negative side."    Hunter S. Thompson
>
>
>
>
>
>  Steve  Goodson
> see our TERMS OF SERVICE  at:
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