I second the vintage horn route...  even some of the old Bundy's are better than many of the step up horns that we are seeing these days, rugged and durable!
   
  You can definitely find some great old horns out there.  Also, old horns doesn't have to mean 1950 and earlier.  There are lots of horns from the 50's, 60's and even the 70's that are good options.
   
  I do understand that there's nothing like the "wow factor" of a brand new horn, and that kids can be judgmental and cruel, but during my days fixing horns, there were many of the older horns that had a great sound and better than average intonation throughout the horn!  And they were built solid, not needing adjustment every couple of months!
   
  But the trick is educating yourself on which model and years were the better versions of the horns...
   
     



       
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You're preaching to the choir here.  My alto and my (now sold) tenor are 
both Selmer Mark VII's, my flute is a mid-1970's Haynes, and my E-flat 
clarinet is 1695 Selmer.

Thanks to everyone who responded both on and off list.  As I suspected would 
happen, the parents spoke to the band directors and they of course said "Get 
a Selmer SA80II."  Which is overkill for most high schoolers and even more 
so for this student who is only going into 7th grade.

Now if I can just get them to adopt me.  :-)

Daniel


----Original Message Follows----
From: Fritz <fritzwhitney@...>
Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: OT: Step-Up Instruments
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT)

I second the vintage horn route...  even some of the old Bundy's are better 
than many of the step up horns that we are seeing these days, rugged and 
durable!

   You can definitely find some great old horns out there.  Also, old horns 
doesn't have to mean 1950 and earlier.  There are lots of horns from the 
50's, 60's and even the 70's that are good options.

   I do understand that there's nothing like the "wow factor" of a brand new 
horn, and that kids can be judgmental and cruel, but during my days fixing 
horns, there were many of the older horns that had a great sound and better 
than average intonation throughout the horn!  And they were built solid, not 
needing adjustment every couple of months!

   But the trick is educating yourself on which model and years were the 
better versions of the horns...






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Daniel,

a 1695 Selmer .. i've heard of vintage but that takes the cake !! 
;-)

I play a Selmer CT, Leblanc LL and Leblanc Symphonie 3 clarinet.  
Buying a clarinet (or anything else) new just doesn't fit the pocket 
book anymore. My last new horn was my Selmer mk VII alto back in 
1979ish

Steve Sklar


--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Stover" 
<kasparguy@...> wrote:
>
> You're preaching to the choir here.  My alto and my (now sold) 
tenor are 
> both Selmer Mark VII's, my flute is a mid-1970's Haynes, and my E-
flat 
> clarinet is 1695 Selmer.
> 
> Thanks to everyone who responded both on and off list.  As I 
suspected would 
> happen, the parents spoke to the band directors and they of course 
said "Get 
> a Selmer SA80II."  Which is overkill for most high schoolers and 
even more 
> so for this student who is only going into 7th grade.
> 
> Now if I can just get them to adopt me.  :-)
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Fritz <fritzwhitney@...>
> Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: OT: Step-Up Instruments
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> I second the vintage horn route...  even some of the old Bundy's 
are better 
> than many of the step up horns that we are seeing these days, 
rugged and 
> durable!
> 
>    You can definitely find some great old horns out there.  Also, 
old horns 
> doesn't have to mean 1950 and earlier.  There are lots of horns 
from the 
> 50's, 60's and even the 70's that are good options.
> 
>    I do understand that there's nothing like the "wow factor" of a 
brand new 
> horn, and that kids can be judgmental and cruel, but during my 
days fixing 
> horns, there were many of the older horns that had a great sound 
and better 
> than average intonation throughout the horn!  And they were built 
solid, not 
> needing adjustment every couple of months!
> 
>    But the trick is educating yourself on which model and years 
were the 
> better versions of the horns...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone 
who knows.
> Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
> 
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