I have a very good old friend of mine which is a great bari sax 
player and a hugh fan of Gerry Mulligan.I believe he has got almost 
every record played by him . As far as I know G M was playing on a 
wooden Gale Hollywood #5 mouthpiece on his bari.
       My friend here has wanted to play on one of these Gale Hollywood 
mpcs for years,but has not been able to find one. So my question is, 
does anybody know if these mpcs still are around, and if, where to find 
them?
I have tried ebay, junkdude and so on without finding one,so I guess 
they must be very rare. I would be very pleased if some of you out 
there will be able to help me.
       
       Helge

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "railwayreed" <helgsolv@...> 
wrote:
>
>  As far as I know G M was playing on a 
> wooden Gale Hollywood #5 mouthpiece on his bari.
>        My friend here has wanted to play on one of these Gale 
Hollywood 
> mpcs for years,but has not been able to find one. So my question is, 
> does anybody know if these mpcs still are around, and if, where to 
find 
> them?

Jerry Mulligan's estate and equipment was auctioned off on ebay several 
years ago.  The Gale mouthpiece with the 3 dots around the barrel is 
HARD RUBBER not wooden. These mouthpieces are extremely rare. You 
should continue to watch ebay or post a want it now ad. 

The Gregory mouthpiece company evolved to Gale which has been defunct 
for many years now, but Charles Bay took over the designs and still 
currently markets them. It would be much easier to purchase currently 
produced Charles Bay Baritone sax mouthpiece which it a fine quality 
item. 

Gerry Mulligan wore out his Gale and had it repaired several times.  They are just not to be had.  If there were any more in the known universe, Gerry Mulligan would have bought them. 
   
  Sorry, but that's the way it is.
   
  Paul

railwayreed <helgsolv@...> wrote:
          I have a very good old friend of mine which is a great bari sax 
player and a hugh fan of Gerry Mulligan.I believe he has got almost 
every record played by him . As far as I know G M was playing on a 
wooden Gale Hollywood #5 mouthpiece on his bari.
My friend here has wanted to play on one of these Gale Hollywood 
mpcs for years,but has not been able to find one. So my question is, 
does anybody know if these mpcs still are around, and if, where to find 
them?
I have tried ebay, junkdude and so on without finding one,so I guess 
they must be very rare. I would be very pleased if some of you out 
there will be able to help me.

Helge



         


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     A great thanks to both of you, Greg and Paul, for your answers, 
very helpful, now I will be looking for a Charles Bay Barytonsax 
mouthpiece, much easier to find I guess. Thanks a lot again!
 
     Helge

If you read the liner notes to "Lonesome Boulevard"
Gerry talk about having his Gale being irreparable and
having Vandoren make a copy for him. He said that he
was worried he would have to stop playing. Having said
that, I know the V5 is nothing like a Gale..

Kevin Goss


--- railwayreed <helgsolv@...> wrote:

>      A great thanks to both of you, Greg and Paul,
> for your answers, 
> very helpful, now I will be looking for a Charles
> Bay Barytonsax 
> mouthpiece, much easier to find I guess. Thanks a
> lot again!
>  
>      Helge
> 
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Sorry for the slightly off-topic post.  But I looked at SOTW and their forum 
is so sub-catagorized it's like a maze.  And the posts in the catagory this 
would fit in were at least a year old if not older.

I've got a student wanting to step up from a rental Yamaha YAS-23.  But not 
ready for a Selmer S80 or high end Yamaha or Yani.  I'd like her to get 
something with a Selmer-style mechanism, but my knowledge of saxophone 
models is limited to clunker student instruments or high end pro models.

They haven't gotten back to me with a budget but I was going to recommend 
they go with either a low-end step-up and use it for marching band in high 
school when they could get her a Selmer or something.  Or get something 
mid-range and then in high school sell it and use some of the money for a 
marching clunker and the rest towards a nice instrument.  Or for all I know, 
maybe they want to jump right to a S80 now.

Anyway, I would appreciate any recommendations for student/intermediate 
saxes with Selmer-style mechanism that are reliable and good intonation.

Off-list replies are fine since it's a little OT.


Many Thanks,

Daniel Stover
Woodwinds and Recording
Houston, TX

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--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Stover" <kasparguy@...>
wrote:
>
> Sorry for the slightly off-topic post.  But I looked at SOTW and
their forum 
> is so sub-catagorized it's like a maze.  And the posts in the
catagory this 
> would fit in were at least a year old if not older.
> 
> I've got a student wanting to step up from a rental Yamaha YAS-23. 
But not 
> ready for a Selmer S80 or high end Yamaha or Yani.  I'd like her to get 
> something with a Selmer-style mechanism, but my knowledge of saxophone 
> models is limited to clunker student instruments or high end pro models.
> 
> They haven't gotten back to me with a budget but I was going to
recommend 
> they go with either a low-end step-up and use it for marching band
in high 
> school when they could get her a Selmer or something.  Or get something 
> mid-range and then in high school sell it and use some of the money
for a 
> marching clunker and the rest towards a nice instrument.  Or for all
I know, 
> maybe they want to jump right to a S80 now.
> 
> Anyway, I would appreciate any recommendations for student/intermediate 
> saxes with Selmer-style mechanism that are reliable and good intonation.
> 
> Off-list replies are fine since it's a little OT.
> 
> 
> Many Thanks,
> 
> Daniel Stover
> Woodwinds and Recording
> Houston, TX
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. 
> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us
>





I would recommend a Jupiter artist series.  Or many times I've seen
Yamaha 61/62's used reasonably priced.  Might be the logical choice if
they want to stick with Yamaha...or an old Yanagisawa.

I scoffed when I considered buying a Winston soprano. I had sold my Yamaha Custom in order to pay for my YBS 62 silver baritone and was borrowing a Vito (Which I didn't like - palm keys too close o the horn). When I had to give it back I was without a soprano and I bought a Winston through SOTW for $250, figuring I could unload it for what I paid if I didn't like it. Much to my surprise, I had to put $30 into a small repair (neck cork and Low B not sealing).
   
  Here's the kicker: IT sounds GREAT and plays in tune. I know I may have just been lucky because the Taiwanese horns can be inconsistent, but I really lucked out.
   
  My advice? Buy cheap and take a small risk or make the effort to try the horn before you buy. You may be surprised. It's no Yamaha custom but it sounds better than some of the pro horns I've played and the ergonomics are really good.

clsbob@... wrote:
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Daniel, please check out the Orpheo saxes at Orpheus Music in San Antonio.  This is a step up from the Vespro student line (which I could play any pro gig with) and their Saxgourmet and Steve Goodson Model pro saxes.
   
  Paul Coats

Daniel Stover <kasparguy@...> wrote:
          Sorry for the slightly off-topic post. But I looked at SOTW and their forum 
is so sub-catagorized it's like a maze. And the posts in the catagory this 
would fit in were at least a year old if not older.

I've got a student wanting to step up from a rental Yamaha YAS-23. But not 
ready for a Selmer S80 or high end Yamaha or Yani. I'd like her to get 
something with a Selmer-style mechanism, but my knowledge of saxophone 
models is limited to clunker student instruments or high end pro models.

They haven't gotten back to me with a budget but I was going to recommend 
they go with either a low-end step-up and use it for marching band in high 
school when they could get her a Selmer or something. Or get something 
mid-range and then in high school sell it and use some of the money for a 
marching clunker and the rest towards a nice instrument. Or for all I know, 
maybe they want to jump right to a S80 now.

Anyway, I would appreciate any recommendations for student/intermediate 
saxes with Selmer-style mechanism that are reliable and good intonation.

Off-list replies are fine since it's a little OT.

Many Thanks,

Daniel Stover
Woodwinds and Recording
Houston, TX

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My main alto is an Antigua Winds Prestige.  This model is silver plated with gold lacquered keys.
   
  There is an identical Antigua model, the Supreme, which is all lacquer.
   
  Intonation is very good throughout.  Unlike many altos (and I don't know why alto is worse than tenor in this respect) which have upper registers as much as 15 cents sharp in relation to the lower register, these Antiguas are more in the 3-5 cent range.  Also, middle D is very good, and low D is not flat, unlike many other altos.
   
  This instrument is VERY similar to the Selmer Series II.  I had a fellow in my shop with a silver Series II alto he had just purchased.  It played badly (which is why he got it cheap), but needed only a few pads reseated and regulation.  Once regulated it was excellent.  He played both his Selmer Series II and my Antigua Prestige, and commented that they felt the same, and played the same.  "I'm going to buy one of these (referring to my Antigua) as a backup because it plays just like this Selmer."
   
  Also, Antigua Winds is right there in San Antonio.  They maintain an excellent parts inventory, I have seen it myself.  And their parts book is second to none.
   
  I think list price on the Prestige (silver) is about $2300, The Supreme (lacquer) is about $2000.  Either of these would play for your customer well into college, and even when a "professional" grade sax is purchased, the Antigua will still make a great backup horn.
   
  Paul Coats

clsbob@... wrote:
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I'd recommend the Jupiter 969GL.  They sell for around $1500-1600 and
they are unbelievable horns for the money.  They play great right out
of the box, have great action, excellent key placement, spot on
intonation, and the fit and finish is the finest I've seen on any horn
at any price.

Cannonball pro models are very good and reasonably priced.  For a little more, though, you can get high-end Yamahas that are every bit as good as the Selmers.  Jupiters, even the student models, have very nice sound, although the do have a tendency to shed key corks.

mlrybiski <mlrybiski@...> wrote:  --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Stover" 
wrote:
>
> Sorry for the slightly off-topic post. But I looked at SOTW and
their forum 
> is so sub-catagorized it's like a maze. And the posts in the
catagory this 
> would fit in were at least a year old if not older.
> 
> I've got a student wanting to step up from a rental Yamaha YAS-23. 
But not 
> ready for a Selmer S80 or high end Yamaha or Yani. I'd like her to get 
> something with a Selmer-style mechanism, but my knowledge of saxophone 
> models is limited to clunker student instruments or high end pro models.
> 
> They haven't gotten back to me with a budget but I was going to
recommend 
> they go with either a low-end step-up and use it for marching band
in high 
> school when they could get her a Selmer or something. Or get something 
> mid-range and then in high school sell it and use some of the money
for a 
> marching clunker and the rest towards a nice instrument. Or for all
I know, 
> maybe they want to jump right to a S80 now.
> 
> Anyway, I would appreciate any recommendations for student/intermediate 
> saxes with Selmer-style mechanism that are reliable and good intonation.
> 
> Off-list replies are fine since it's a little OT.
> 


Bill Hausmann

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I have a Winston soprano, too.  I just could not justify big bucks for one, but for under $500 it was worthwhile.  I think it plays every bit as in-tune as any Selmer of Yamaha I have ever played.  It was more than worth the money.  In my experience as a player and employee/repairman in a retail music store, I find the Taiwanese horns to be of much higher quality than the current Elkhart product (to the UAW's great shame).  Mainland China is still to be avoided, but that may not be true for much longer.

Kevin Goss <male_saxist@...> wrote:    I scoffed when I considered buying a Winston soprano. I had sold my Yamaha Custom in order to pay for my YBS 62 silver baritone and was borrowing a Vito (Which I didn't like - palm keys too close o the horn). When I had to give it back I was without a soprano and I bought a Winston through SOTW for $250, figuring I could unload it for what I paid if I didn't like it. Much to my surprise, I had to put $30 into a small repair (neck cork and Low B not sealing).
   
  Here's the kicker: IT sounds GREAT and plays in tune. I know I may have just been lucky because the Taiwanese horns can be inconsistent, but I really lucked out.
   
  My advice? Buy cheap and take a small risk or make the effort to try the horn before you buy. You may be surprised. It's no Yamaha custom but it sounds better than some of the pro horns I've played and the ergonomics are really good.



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Oh, by the way, another piece of advice: Buy a vintage pro horn that isn't a major name (i.e. not Selmer). I got my Conn 10M for $1850 CDN which is much less than a Selmer LaVoix intermediate model. I also got a nice overhauled Conn 6M for one of my students for $1200, which included an S-80 C*, a Vandoren V16 5M, a neotech strap and a Protech case. (also less than most "name" intermediate horns. For the record, I have no intention of "upgrading" from my Conn. It's the nicest horn I've ever played and I made a tidy profit when I sold my Selmer and bought it.

mlrybiski <mlrybiski@...> wrote:          --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Stover" <kasparguy@...>
wrote:
>
> Sorry for the slightly off-topic post. But I looked at SOTW and
their forum 
> is so sub-catagorized it's like a maze. And the posts in the
catagory this 
> would fit in were at least a year old if not older.
> 
> I've got a student wanting to step up from a rental Yamaha YAS-23. 
But not 
> ready for a Selmer S80 or high end Yamaha or Yani. I'd like her to get 
> something with a Selmer-style mechanism, but my knowledge of saxophone 
> models is limited to clunker student instruments or high end pro models.
> 
> They haven't gotten back to me with a budget but I was going to
recommend 
> they go with either a low-end step-up and use it for marching band
in high 
> school when they could get her a Selmer or something. Or get something 
> mid-range and then in high school sell it and use some of the money
for a 
> marching clunker and the rest towards a nice instrument. Or for all
I know, 
> maybe they want to jump right to a S80 now.
> 
> Anyway, I would appreciate any recommendations for student/intermediate 
> saxes with Selmer-style mechanism that are reliable and good intonation.
> 
> Off-list replies are fine since it's a little OT.
> 
> 
> Many Thanks,
> 
> Daniel Stover
> Woodwinds and Recording
> Houston, TX
> 
> __________________________________________________________
> A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. 
> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us
>

I would recommend a Jupiter artist series. Or many times I've seen
Yamaha 61/62's used reasonably priced. Might be the logical choice if
they want to stick with Yamaha...or an old Yanagisawa.



         


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