Mouthpiece Work / Blanks forsale?
FROM: fraz_la_sax (FaM)
SUBJECT: Blanks forsale?
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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks forsale?
Phil Barone sometimes lists cast blanks on eBay.  You might try him.

--- FaM <frasser@...> wrote:

> Hi gang
> I am looking to copy my links in metal and HR. Anyone know of who or
> where
> someone is selling blanks with large chambers?
> 
> thanks
> Frz
> 



 
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FROM: saxman656 (Steve Taylor)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks forsale?
I know some guys buy their rubber balnks out of germany....I don't know of any metal blanks though.....I am sure you can talk to some mouthpiece makers about the German company that makes hard rubber blanks...some mouthpiece makers are kind of closed mouth about were they get their blanks from....
   
  
Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
          Phil Barone sometimes lists cast blanks on eBay. You might try him.

--- FaM <frasser@...> wrote:

> Hi gang
> I am looking to copy my links in metal and HR. Anyone know of who or
> where
> someone is selling blanks with large chambers?
> 
> thanks
> Frz
> 

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FROM: mvprod7991 (MVPROD@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks forsale?
This is a great thread I think. At least for me a novice mouthpiece maker.  
What are the sources for blanks both rubber and metal for both clarinets and  
saxes of all sizes. 
 
Do the blank makers stamp a logo on the mouthpiece for you or if  not where 
do we look for this service.
 
I have just been using shells of other makers and refacing them with some  
work to baffle etc when necessary. 
 
I would love to get a blanks from someone, especially if they could mold  
them to my specs based on a finished mouthpiece I would send them. 
 
The more information on this subject form the list the better. It would be  
sincerely appreciated.
 
 
Thanks,
 
MikeV
 
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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks forsale?
Mike:  I will take each of these in turn:
   
  This is a great thread I think. At least for me a novice mouthpiece maker. What are the sources for blanks both rubber and metal for both clarinets and saxes of all sizes. 
   
  (a) There are three main suppliers.  Zinner in Germany, J. J. Babbit in the US (who make Meyer, Link, and a number of other brands), and Runyon Products in the US.
   
  Do the blank makers stamp a logo on the mouthpiece for you or if not where do we look for this service.
   
  (a) They can, if you supply the hot stamp.  If not, they can have one made, but this is costly, of course.
   
  I have just been using shells of other makers and refacing them with some work to baffle etc when necessary. 
   
  I would love to get a blanks from someone, especially if they could mold them to my specs based on a finished mouthpiece I would send them. 
   
  (a) A complete core and die set for a mouthpiece is very expensive, $50,000 or more.  It is necessary to sell a LOT of mouthpieces to make back the cost of dies and cores.  
   
  The more information on this subject form the list the better. It would be sincerely appreciated.
   
  (a) What some custom "mouthpiece makers" do is find an existing product that is close to their needs, and then have the manufacturer mold the blanks, and the custom maker modifies them to his specifications.  
   
  In the US, talk to Rocky Giglio at J. J. Babbit (www.jjbabbit.com) or Leroy at Runyon Producdts (www.runyonproducts.com).
   
  Paul


MVPROD@... wrote:            This is a great thread I think. At least for me a novice mouthpiece maker. What are the sources for blanks both rubber and metal for both clarinets and saxes of all sizes. 
   
  Do the blank makers stamp a logo on the mouthpiece for you or if not where do we look for this service.
   
  I have just been using shells of other makers and refacing them with some work to baffle etc when necessary. 
   
  I would love to get a blanks from someone, especially if they could mold them to my specs based on a finished mouthpiece I would send them. 
   
  The more information on this subject form the list the better. It would be sincerely appreciated.
   
   
  Thanks,
   
  MikeV
   



  
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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
>    
>   (a) There are three main suppliers.  Zinner in Germany, J. J. Babbit in
> the US (who make Meyer, Link, and a number of other brands), and Runyon
> Products in the US.
>    

I do not know how big they are, but New-York Hamburger http://www.nyh.de/

Looks like a Vandoren shown on their site.  Someone has to supply the
Japanese too.


 
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FROM: greatstuffmusic (Geoff & Sherryl-Lee Secomb)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
My understanding is that this company make the raw blanks from which both Vandoren and Zinner produce their mouthpieces and blanks. I did contact them a while back, and they do not produce a generic blank.  If you want to deal with them, you need to specify your own design, which they will produce for you. Probably a very costly exercise.

Geoff Secomb.


  I do not know how big they are, but New-York Hamburger http://www.nyh.de/

  Looks like a Vandoren shown on their site. Someone has to supply the
  Japanese too.



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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
In the past I have obtained very cheaply, for learning purposes, Runyon Model 22 alto and tenors that had cosmetic flaws, but were otherwise good mouthpieces.
   
  But for now I can order the basic Model 22 alto and tenor with no stamp.
   
  The Model 22 was the white (actually ivory color) mouthpiece that Charlie Parker played.  It is now marketed as a student mouthpiece, and a very good one at that.  Many manufacturers have them stamped with their name but I am not at liberty to disclose.
   
  I can take a Model 22 alto, put a good reed on it, and easily produce a classical tone (even altissimo!) that is every bit as good as the famous French mouthpieces.  It is an excellent mouthpiece that Mr. Runyon had tested for intonation with just about every saxophone on the market.  He was especially concerned that students have good results, playing in tune, producing a tone acceptable to the band directors, and at a price easily affordable.
   
  I can get these mouthpieces as complete "kits", with ligature and cap, retail packaging, in the $25-$30 range, depending on model.
   
  But I can get the mouthpiece only, no ligature, no cap, no packaging, and no logo stamped, but with the facing already machined, for about $5 each (or less).  For clarinet, the cork is applied and shaped.  The more I order, the cheaper I can get them.
   
  The standard facing is Runyon's 4 or 5.  For alto sax, that is .066" to .070".  There is enough material to reface larger, as large as .080"-.085".
   
  The material is easy to work, but quite durable.  These mouthpieces are molded from a proprietary blend of acrylic and synthetic rubber that has the same "flex modulus" (meaning it vibrates the same) as hard rubber.  This material does not warp or wear with time like hard rubber.
   
  Paul Coats

Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
          > 
> (a) There are three main suppliers. Zinner in Germany, J. J. Babbit in
> the US (who make Meyer, Link, and a number of other brands), and Runyon
> Products in the US.
> 

I do not know how big they are, but New-York Hamburger http://www.nyh.de/

Looks like a Vandoren shown on their site. Someone has to supply the
Japanese too.

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FROM: charvel50 (Ross and Helen McIntyre)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
  Hi Paul

  I trust that you are well and have not had to weather any more storms.
  I've just received your message to the board re the model 22 Runyon Alto pieces. 
  Is it possible to order the standard blanks ( no lig or cap) through you?
  I would require 10 of the size 5's
  cheers

  Ross
  www.saxman.com.au
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
OK, Ross, 10 alto pieces... for now let's estimate $12 shipping.  DO NOT PAY ME YET... let me see how much I can get them for.  I think I can do better than $5 each.
   
  Paul

Ross and Helen McIntyre <mk6sax@...> wrote:
             
    Hi Paul
   
  I trust that you are well and have not had to weather any more storms.
  I've just received your message to the board re the model 22 Runyon Alto pieces. 
  Is it possible to order the standard blanks ( no lig or cap) through you?
  I would require 10 of the size 5's
  cheers
   
  Ross
  www.saxman.com.au
   
  

         


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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
Yes, alto or tenor?
   
  I would estimate shipping to AU at $12.00 US.
   
  Paul

Ross and Helen McIntyre <mk6sax@...> wrote:
             
    Hi Paul
   
  I trust that you are well and have not had to weather any more storms.
  I've just received your message to the board re the model 22 Runyon Alto pieces. 
  Is it possible to order the standard blanks ( no lig or cap) through you?
  I would require 10 of the size 5's
  cheers
   
  Ross
  www.saxman.com.au
   
  

         


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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
Paul,

A client just sent me a metal Quantum with a Runyon supplied metal ligature
on it instead of the infamous Runyon plastic ligature.  Do you know if
Runyon is switching over to metal ligs on all models?


 
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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
Dunno.
   
  Paul

Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
          Paul,

A client just sent me a metal Quantum with a Runyon supplied metal ligature
on it instead of the infamous Runyon plastic ligature. Do you know if
Runyon is switching over to metal ligs on all models?

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FROM: bluesnote2000 (dan lunsford)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
--- "Paul C." <tenorman1952@...> wrote:

> Dunno.
>    
>   Paul
> 
> Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>           Paul,
> 
> A client just sent me a metal Quantum with a Runyon
> supplied metal ligature
> on it instead of the infamous Runyon plastic
> ligature. Do you know if
> Runyon is switching over to metal ligs on all
> models?
> 
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Hi:

I bought a Quantum from Santy about 10 years ago, and
it had a metal ligature, but I found out that those
break pretty easy.

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FROM: charvel50 (Ross and Helen McIntyre)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
Hi Paul
5 of each would be good, if thats ok
thanks
Ross
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul C. 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Blanks for sale?



  Yes, alto or tenor?

  I would estimate shipping to AU at $12.00 US.

  Paul

  Ross and Helen McIntyre <mk6sax@...> wrote:

      Hi Paul

      I trust that you are well and have not had to weather any more storms.
      I've just received your message to the board re the model 22 Runyon Alto pieces. 
      Is it possible to order the standard blanks ( no lig or cap) through you?
      I would require 10 of the size 5's
      cheers

      Ross
      www.saxman.com.au




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  Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at:
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  http://www.saxrax.com 
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FROM: r1l2h32000 (ralph hopper)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
Paul, I don't wish to take advantage of your good
intentions, but, would I be able to get 5 alto pieces
as part of this order?  I'm in the Ottawa, Canada,
area and would be happy to pay shipping up here.  They
would give me an opportunity to experiment a bit.
Ralph

--- "Paul C." <tenorman1952@...> wrote:

> OK, Ross, 10 alto pieces... for now let's estimate
> $12 shipping.  DO NOT PAY ME YET... let me see how
> much I can get them for.  I think I can do better
> than $5 each.
>    
>   Paul
> 
> Ross and Helen McIntyre <mk6sax@...>
> wrote:
>              
>     Hi Paul
>    
>   I trust that you are well and have not had to
> weather any more storms.
>   I've just received your message to the board re
> the model 22 Runyon Alto pieces. 
>   Is it possible to order the standard blanks ( no
> lig or cap) through you?
>   I would require 10 of the size 5's
>   cheers
>    
>   Ross
>   www.saxman.com.au
>    
>   
> 
>          
> 
> 
> Link to Paul's articles from Main page of
> "Saxgourmet":
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> Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at:
>            http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952
> 
> Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX
> products from 
> http://www.saxrax.com 
> For SAXRAX products, email Paul at
> saxraxus@...
>  
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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
I have them on the way to me, and will get thme out to you asap.
   
  Don't pay me yet.
   
  Paul

Ross and Helen McIntyre <mk6sax@...> wrote:
            Hi Paul
  5 of each would be good, if thats ok
  thanks
  Ross
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul C. 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Blanks for sale?
  

      Yes, alto or tenor?
   
  I would estimate shipping to AU at $12.00 US.
   
  Paul

Ross and Helen McIntyre <mk6sax@...> wrote:
         
    Hi Paul
   
  I trust that you are well and have not had to weather any more storms.
  I've just received your message to the board re the model 22 Runyon Alto pieces. 
  Is it possible to order the standard blanks ( no lig or cap) through you?
  I would require 10 of the size 5's
  cheers
   
  Ross
  www.saxman.com.au
   
  





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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Blanks for sale?
Yes.  Again, don't pay me yet.  Let me see just what the costs are first.
   
  The mouthpieces are on the way to me now.
   
  Paul

ralph hopper <ralph.hopper@...> wrote:
          Paul, I don't wish to take advantage of your good
intentions, but, would I be able to get 5 alto pieces
as part of this order? I'm in the Ottawa, Canada,
area and would be happy to pay shipping up here. They
would give me an opportunity to experiment a bit.
Ralph

--- "Paul C." <tenorman1952@...> wrote:

> OK, Ross, 10 alto pieces... for now let's estimate
> $12 shipping. DO NOT PAY ME YET... let me see how
> much I can get them for. I think I can do better
> than $5 each.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Ross and Helen McIntyre <mk6sax@...>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul
> 
> I trust that you are well and have not had to
> weather any more storms.
> I've just received your message to the board re
> the model 22 Runyon Alto pieces. 
> Is it possible to order the standard blanks ( no
> lig or cap) through you?
> I would require 10 of the size 5's
> cheers
> 
> Ross
> www.saxman.com.au
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Link to Paul's articles from Main page of
> "Saxgourmet":
> http://www.saxgourmet.com
> Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at:
> http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952
> 
> Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX
> products from 
> http://www.saxrax.com 
> For SAXRAX products, email Paul at
> saxraxus@...
> 
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