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FROM: saxman656 (Steve Taylor)
SUBJECT: Dukoff mouthpiece models for rock and roll and who can work on the
I have decided on buying( it fits my budget and is a good mouthpiece) a Dukoff tenor mouthpiece for my saxophone, however, there seems to be all different chambers, example P,S,X...I supoose they are all "power chambers" but which one would be best for Rock and Roll...they all say they project well and all have edge, but again which one would be best for rock and roll....??? The second problem is the "silverlite" metal is very soft and dents easily. Is there anything that can be done to harden the metal, like cryoing(cryogenics) the mouthpiece??? I know they do crogenics (low temperator freezing )on saxophones, but would it work on a mouthpiece to harden the metal. I can cryo it myself with liquid nitrogen, if I was given the submerssion time.....and ,if it would in fact,help. The third problem is who will work on Dukoff mouthpiece,like making sure the rales are even that the table was flat, and so one.... Please let me know your opinions, Thanks saxman656@... --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
FROM: saxman656 (Steve Taylor)
SUBJECT: Dukoff mouthpiece models for rock and roll and who can work on the
I have decided on buying( it fits my budget and is a good mouthpiece) a Dukoff tenor mouthpiece for my saxophone, however, there seems to be all different chambers, example P,S,X...I supoose they are all "power chambers" but which one would be best for Rock and Roll...they all say they project well and all have edge, but again which one would be best for rock and roll....??? The second problem is the "silverlite" metal is very soft and dents easily. Is there anything that can be done to harden the metal, like cryoing(cryogenics) the mouthpiece??? I know they do crogenics (low temperator freezing )on saxophones, but would it work on a mouthpiece to harden the metal. I can cryo it myself with liquid nitrogen, if I was given the submerssion time.....and ,if it would in fact,help. The third problem is who will work on Dukoff mouthpiece,like making sure the rales are even that the table was flat, and so one.... Please let me know your opinions, Thanks saxman656@... --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul C.)
SUBJECT: Re: Dukoff mouthpiece models for rock and roll and who can work on
Dukoff has quite a following. Even one of my idols, Boots Randolph loves them. He says part of the sound is the soft silverite material.
But the silverite material is so soft that just measuring with glass gauge and feelers damages the table and rails. I no longer accept Dukoffs for any work. They are just too fragile.
Paul Coats
Steve Taylor <saxman656@...> wrote:
I have decided on buying( it fits my budget and is a good mouthpiece) a Dukoff tenor mouthpiece for my saxophone, however, there seems to be all different chambers, example P,S,X...I supoose they are all "power chambers" but which one would be best for Rock and Roll...they all say they project well and all have edge, but again which one would be best for rock and roll....???
The second problem is the "silverlite" metal is very soft and dents easily. Is there anything that can be done to harden the metal, like cryoing(cryogenics) the mouthpiece??? I know they do crogenics (low temperator freezing )on saxophones, but would it work on a mouthpiece to harden the metal. I can cryo it myself with liquid nitrogen, if I was given the submerssion time.....and ,if it would in fact,help.
The third problem is who will work on Dukoff mouthpiece,like making sure the rales are even that the table was flat, and so one....
Please let me know your opinions,
Thanks
saxman656@...
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FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: Dukoff mouthpiece models for rock and roll and who can work on
I agree with Paul: Dukoff's are just TOO soft! There are plenty of high baffle/small chamber mouthpieces out there that will give you a rock and roll sound. I've had lots of my personal mouthpieces cryoed. Unlike the horn itself, cryo doesn't seem to have ANY effect on mouthpieces. I keep trying, but have never found any benefit. I do have all of my personal saxophones cryoed, and don't understand people who don't do likewise.... _____ From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul C. Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:08 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Dukoff mouthpiece models for rock and roll and who can work on them and cryogenics Dukoff has quite a following. Even one of my idols, Boots Randolph loves them. He says part of the sound is the soft silverite material. But the silverite material is so soft that just measuring with glass gauge and feelers damages the table and rails. I no longer accept Dukoffs for any work. They are just too fragile. Paul Coats Steve Taylor <saxman656@...> wrote: I have decided on buying( it fits my budget and is a good mouthpiece) a Dukoff tenor mouthpiece for my saxophone, however, there seems to be all different chambers, example P,S,X...I supoose they are all "power chambers" but which one would be best for Rock and Roll...they all say they project well and all have edge, but again which one would be best for rock and roll....??? The second problem is the "silverlite" metal is very soft and dents easily. Is there anything that can be done to harden the metal, like cryoing(cryogenics) the mouthpiece??? I know they do crogenics (low temperator freezing )on saxophones, but would it work on a mouthpiece to harden the metal. I can cryo it myself with liquid nitrogen, if I was given the submerssion time.....and ,if it would in fact,help. The third problem is who will work on Dukoff mouthpiece,like making sure the rales are even that the table was flat, and so one.... Please let me know your opinions, Thanks saxman656@aol. <mailto:saxman656@...> com _____ TV dinner still cooling? Check out <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evtI979/*http://tv.yahoo.com/> "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. Link to Paul's articles from Main page of "Saxgourmet": http://www.saxgourmet.com Listen to Paul's MP3's and view saxophone photos at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 Paul Coats is the sole US importer of SAXRAX products from http://www.saxrax.com For SAXRAX products, email Paul at saxraxus@... _____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evtA244/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index> Small Business.
FROM: moeaaron (Barry Levine)
SUBJECT: Re: Dukoff mouthpiece models for rock and roll and who can work on
> I have decided on buying( it fits my budget and is a good mouthpiece) a > Dukoff tenor mouthpiece for my saxophone, however, there seems to be all > different chambers, example P,S,X...I supoose they are all "power chambers" > but which one would be best for Rock and Roll...they all say they project > well and all have edge, but again which one would be best for rock and roll....??? You really should test play mouthpieces to find out what works for you. Either at a retail outlet, or through local sellers. Woodwind & Brasswind will let you try up to 3 mouthpieces at a time, with a modest fee for disinfecting them on return. Likewise, many mouthpiece makers and refacers will let you purchase mouthpieces with a test-play return policy. Test-playing doesn't guarantee that you'll still like your purchase 1-2 months later, but it helps you rule out pieces that you find unplayable or unsuitable. > The second problem is the "silverlite" metal is very soft and dents > easily. Is there anything that can be done to harden the metal, like > cryoing(cryogenics) the mouthpiece??? I wonder if some kind of metal plating could create a hard surface that would make these mouthpieces more durable. Chrome plate might accomplish this, IIRC it's a very hard surface, but how does it stand up to saliva? (chromium salts are quite toxic). Also, plating would alter the dimensions of the rails slightly, and not necessarily for the better. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ---------- http://users.norwoodlight.com/barrylevine ---------- " I think it would be a good idea." - Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948); when asked what he thought of Western civilization
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Dukoff mouthpieces
The newer Dukoffs I have worked on the past couple of years are Nickel-plated on the outside. The chamber, table and rails are not plated. This gives the piece a tad more strength and it does not get so ugly over time. There were plastic and brass Dukoffs made, but you need to keep an eye on eBay for a while to find them. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/