Hello to everybody. I'm looking for info to add in my site and is the
time of Guardala. 
I heard times ago from Keith that Guardala's partner (do you have the
name?) had a trial with Dave for license of the new lazer trimmered
mouthpiece. It is correct? I heard too, this partner built this mp in
Europe, it is true?
Please if somebody have a little time to write me more info as
possible, and you feel like doing, about Guardala carrier as
manufacturer, as when was made first mp, where he work before make
own... gossip ok too but technical info better... any kind. thanks as
usal.  
Gian

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>     Hello to everybody. I'm looking for
>     info to add in my site and is the time of Guardala. I heard times ago
> from
>     Keith that Guardala's partner (do you have the name?) had a trial with
> Dave
>     for license of the new lazer trimmered mouthpiece. It is correct? I
> heard too,
>     this partner built this mp in Europe, it is true? Please if somebody
> have a
>     little time to write me more info as possible, and you feel like doing,
> about
>     Guardala carrier as manufacturer, as when was made first mp, where he
> work
>     before make own... gossip ok too but technical info better... any kind.
> thanks
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sorry for the blank post! These computers have a mind of their own
sometimes.
 
I couldn't agree more with Dan about gossip.
 
If you want to know about the Guardala company, I would suggest you contact
the current owner, Dennis Bamber. Dennis acquired all of Dave Guardala's
trademarks and designs several years ago. 

 

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On Behalf Of Dan Torosian
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:23 AM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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I would advise that if you're posting information to a website, gossip is
not OK.

DT

Gian Luca Corino wrote:


Hello to everybody. I'm looking for info to add in my site and is the

time of Guardala. 

I heard times ago from Keith that Guardala's partner (do you have the

name?) had a trial with Dave for license of the new lazer trimmered

mouthpiece. It is correct? I heard too, this partner built this mp in

Europe, it is true?

Please if somebody have a little time to write me more info as

possible, and you feel like doing, about Guardala carrier as

manufacturer, as when was made first mp, where he work before make

own... gossip ok too but technical info better... any kind. thanks as

usal.  

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] gardala story


:sorry for the blank post! These computers have a mind of their own 
sometimes.

:I couldn't agree more with Dan about gossip.

:If you want to know about the Guardala company, I would suggest you contact 
the current owner, Dennis Bamber. :Dennis acquired all of Dave Guardala's 
trademarks and designs several years ago.

Alternately you might try posting to the newsgroup alt.saxophone, where 
Guardala's partner, Jeff Powell (aka abbedd) often holds court on matters 
Guardala. Be warned, he is a pretty abrasive character, but he is apparently 
the man who designed the Guardala mpcs and cut them on CNC machines (after 
which Guardala finished them). He'll be able to provide you with the 
history.

Toby 

A word of warning: Jeff Powell NEVER owned more than 2 1/2 percent of the
shares authorized. He represents himself as knowing what was going on. This
is not the case. He was a machinist, and does not play saxophone (plays
French horn) and not involved in the "business side" of the company. Of
course, he will tell you differently. Dave, Dennis Bamber, and Dave's
ex-wife have all set the record straight to me directly. IMHO, Jeff is more
than a little delusional about his place in the grand scheme of things. Do a
search and read some of his posts on Usenet, and judge for yourself. 


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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] gardala story


:sorry for the blank post! These computers have a mind of their own 
sometimes.

:I couldn't agree more with Dan about gossip.

:If you want to know about the Guardala company, I would suggest you contact

the current owner, Dennis Bamber. :Dennis acquired all of Dave Guardala's 
trademarks and designs several years ago.

Alternately you might try posting to the newsgroup alt.saxophone, where 
Guardala's partner, Jeff Powell (aka abbedd) often holds court on matters 
Guardala. Be warned, he is a pretty abrasive character, but he is apparently

the man who designed the Guardala mpcs and cut them on CNC machines (after 
which Guardala finished them). He'll be able to provide you with the 
history.

Toby 




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What appears missing from all the accounts presented on the web is 
first-hand word from Dave Guardala.  His past partner, Jeff Powell, 
posts snippets of his version of the story from time-to-time on 
alt.music.saxophone.  Dave's ex-girlfriend appears to have posted 
there too.  Search for posts by "ansermetniac".  He also posted on 
SOTW a few months ago but they have been deleted from SOTW.  (I may 
have saved the posts.)

Jeff claims the Dave is still his partner but I do not see a way to 
confirm this.  Jeff has posted comments that indicate the recent 
products being offered under the Guardala name have been a surprise to 
him.  It looks like Dave is making deals without involving Jeff.  It 
is possible that some vendors are using the Guardala name without 
permission of all parties who have control of the name.  Legal action 
may or may not sort this out in the future.  

Steve's report make it sound like Dennis Bamber has some kind of 
contract to use the Guardala name.  There is a mouthpiece maker/seller 
in Germany who thinks he has rights to use it too.  Now saxes with the 
Guardala name are also appearing.  Are there contracts and are they 
sound?  We just do not know.  We do know there is some disagreement.

Isn't Dennis Bamber the original founder of Woodwind and Brasswind? 
There was a Bamber line of mouthpieces...my first tenor mouthpiece 
was a Bamber Jazz that came in the case of my Selmer SA80. 
jeff

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" 
<kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> What appears missing from all the accounts presented on the web is 
> first-hand word from Dave Guardala.  His past partner, Jeff Powell, 
> posts snippets of his version of the story from time-to-time on 
> alt.music.saxophone.  Dave's ex-girlfriend appears to have posted 
> there too.  Search for posts by "ansermetniac".  He also posted on 
> SOTW a few months ago but they have been deleted from SOTW.  (I may 
> have saved the posts.)
> 
> Jeff claims the Dave is still his partner but I do not see a way to 
> confirm this.  Jeff has posted comments that indicate the recent 
> products being offered under the Guardala name have been a surprise 
to 
> him.  It looks like Dave is making deals without involving Jeff.  
It 
> is possible that some vendors are using the Guardala name without 
> permission of all parties who have control of the name.  Legal 
action 
> may or may not sort this out in the future.  
> 
> Steve's report make it sound like Dennis Bamber has some kind of 
> contract to use the Guardala name.  There is a mouthpiece 
maker/seller 
> in Germany who thinks he has rights to use it too.  Now saxes with 
the 
> Guardala name are also appearing.  Are there contracts and are they 
> sound?  We just do not know.  We do know there is some disagreement.
>

One and the same. Dennis has done a lot to make things available to the
saxophone community, and deserves a lot of credit. He's the very definition
of "saxophone enthusiast". 


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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:41 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Gardala story

Isn't Dennis Bamber the original founder of Woodwind and Brasswind? 
There was a Bamber line of mouthpieces...my first tenor mouthpiece was a
Bamber Jazz that came in the case of my Selmer SA80. 
jeff

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" 
<kwbradbury@...> wrote:
>
> What appears missing from all the accounts presented on the web is 
> first-hand word from Dave Guardala.  His past partner, Jeff Powell, 
> posts snippets of his version of the story from time-to-time on 
> alt.music.saxophone.  Dave's ex-girlfriend appears to have posted 
> there too.  Search for posts by "ansermetniac".  He also posted on 
> SOTW a few months ago but they have been deleted from SOTW.  (I may 
> have saved the posts.)
> 
> Jeff claims the Dave is still his partner but I do not see a way to 
> confirm this.  Jeff has posted comments that indicate the recent 
> products being offered under the Guardala name have been a surprise
to 
> him.  It looks like Dave is making deals without involving Jeff.  
It 
> is possible that some vendors are using the Guardala name without 
> permission of all parties who have control of the name.  Legal
action 
> may or may not sort this out in the future.  
> 
> Steve's report make it sound like Dennis Bamber has some kind of 
> contract to use the Guardala name.  There is a mouthpiece
maker/seller 
> in Germany who thinks he has rights to use it too.  Now saxes with
the 
> Guardala name are also appearing.  Are there contracts and are they 
> sound?  We just do not know.  We do know there is some disagreement.
>






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It has been reported to me that the German venture is something Dave cooked
up AFTER he sold ALL of his rights and trademarks to Dennis. 

Jeff Powell has not been involved with the Guardala company for many years,
despite his representations to the contrary. He seems to believe that it's
still a going concern and he has something to do with it. Unfortunately,
this has not been the case for quite a few years.

I do not know what Jeff Powell does for a living, but working for the
Guardala company is not a source of employment for him, nor has it been for
some time. Why he persists in representing himself as involved with the
company is a source of mystery to me. 


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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:05 AM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Gardala story

What appears missing from all the accounts presented on the web is
first-hand word from Dave Guardala.  His past partner, Jeff Powell, posts
snippets of his version of the story from time-to-time on
alt.music.saxophone.  Dave's ex-girlfriend appears to have posted there too.
Search for posts by "ansermetniac".  He also posted on SOTW a few months ago
but they have been deleted from SOTW.  (I may have saved the posts.)

Jeff claims the Dave is still his partner but I do not see a way to confirm
this.  Jeff has posted comments that indicate the recent products being
offered under the Guardala name have been a surprise to him.  It looks like
Dave is making deals without involving Jeff.  It is possible that some
vendors are using the Guardala name without permission of all parties who
have control of the name.  Legal action may or may not sort this out in the
future.  

Steve's report make it sound like Dennis Bamber has some kind of contract to
use the Guardala name.  There is a mouthpiece maker/seller in Germany who
thinks he has rights to use it too.  Now saxes with the Guardala name are
also appearing.  Are there contracts and are they sound?  We just do not
know.  We do know there is some disagreement.





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Hi Steve Hi Dan....
 I didn't mean to use the word gossip as you mean! but Italian is my main linguage. As gossip I didn't intend a pinky romantic story catch by a photographer (we call paparazzi). I mean story regarding the life... on building mouthpieces!
 And ask to Dan... are you the administrator of this site, that you are telling me what is ok to write or not on this site? Do you know more and better on Guardala story? You can tell me the story and save your polemic comment.
 Gian
 
 
STEVE GOODSON <steveg@...> wrote:       sorry for the blank post! These computers  have a mind of their own  sometimes.
  
 I couldn't agree more with Dan about  gossip.
  
 If you want to know about the Guardala  company, I would suggest you contact the current owner, Dennis Bamber. Dennis  acquired all of Dave Guardala's trademarks and designs several years  ago. 

  

  
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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:23 AM
To:  MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] gardala  story


 
I would advise that if you're posting information to a website,  gossip is not OK.

DT

Gian Luca Corino wrote:
 
Hello to everybody. I'm looking for info to add in my site and is the
time of Guardala. 
I heard times ago from Keith that Guardala's partner (do you have the
name?) had a trial with Dave for license of the new lazer trimmered
mouthpiece. It is correct? I heard too, this partner built this mp in
Europe, it is true?
Please if somebody have a little time to write me more info as
possible, and you feel like doing, about Guardala carrier as
manufacturer, as when was made first mp, where he work before make
own... gossip ok too but technical info better... any kind. thanks as
usal.  
Gian





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So who refinish now the mouthpiece before sale. Anyone of the staff working there or a "special hand" going to work there ? I hope all lazer trimmered are checked before leaving the manufacturer, isn't it?
 Gian

Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:    What appears missing from all the accounts presented on the web is 
 first-hand word from Dave Guardala.  His past partner, Jeff Powell, 
 posts snippets of his version of the story from time-to-time on 
 alt.music.saxophone.  Dave's ex-girlfriend appears to have posted 
 there too.  Search for posts by "ansermetniac".  He also posted on 
 SOTW a few months ago but they have been deleted from SOTW.  (I may 
 have saved the posts.)
 
 Jeff claims the Dave is still his partner but I do not see a way to 
 confirm this.  Jeff has posted comments that indicate the recent 
 products being offered under the Guardala name have been a surprise to 
 him.  It looks like Dave is making deals without involving Jeff.  It 
 is possible that some vendors are using the Guardala name without 
 permission of all parties who have control of the name.  Legal action 
 may or may not sort this out in the future.  
 
 Steve's report make it sound like Dennis Bamber has some kind of 
 contract to use the Guardala name.  There is a mouthpiece maker/seller 
 in Germany who thinks he has rights to use it too.  Now saxes with the 
 Guardala name are also appearing.  Are there contracts and are they 
 sound?  We just do not know.  We do know there is some disagreement.
 
 
 
     

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This html message parsed with html2text ---------------------------No I am not an admin of this site. No I am not telling you what you can and
can't do. If you read my post this is clear. And I did not intend any rancor
at all. My post said:  
  
" I would advise that if you're posting information to a website, gossip is
_not_ OK."  
  
I meant exactly that - my friendly advice to you, as a colleague and fellow
member of this group - would be to not post gossip about someone on a website
that intends to be informative. I understood from your original post that you
have a website and were looking for information about Guardala to post there.
I was advising you not to include gossip about the company or its principals.  
  
Sorry about the language confusion, but "gossip" is the word you used.  
  
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Bebop Italia wrote:  

> Hi Steve Hi Dan....  
>  I didn't mean to use the word gossip as you mean! but Italian is my main
> linguage. As gossip I didn't intend a pinky romantic story catch by a
> photographer (we call paparazzi). I mean story regarding the life... on
> building mouthpieces!  
>  And ask to Dan... are you the administrator of this site, that you are
> telling me what is ok to write or not on this site? Do you know more and
> better on Guardala story? You can tell me the story and save your polemic
> comment.  
>  Gian  
>  
>  
>  **_STEVE GOODSON[](mailto:steveg@...)_** wrote:
>

>> **_sorry for the blank post! These computers have a mind of their own
sometimes._**

>>

>> **__**

>>

>> **_I couldn't agree more with Dan about gossip._**

>>

>> **__**

>>

>> **_If you want to know about the Guardala company, I would suggest you
contact the current owner, Dennis Bamber. Dennis acquired all of Dave
Guardala's trademarks and designs several years ago._**  
>
>>

>>  
>
>>

>> * * *

>>

>> **From:**
[MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com](mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com)
[[mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com](mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com)]
**On Behalf Of** Dan Torosian  
>  **Sent:** Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:23 AM  
>  **To:**
> [MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com](mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com)  
>  **Subject:** Re: [MouthpieceWork] gardala story  
>  
>
>>

>> I would advise that if you're posting information to a website, gossip is
_not_ OK.  
>  
>  DT  
>  
>  Gian Luca Corino wrote:  
>
>>

>>>

>>>     Hello to everybody. I'm

>>>     looking for info to add in my site and is the time of Guardala. I
heard times

>>>     ago from Keith that Guardala's partner (do you have the name?) had a
trial

>>>     with Dave for license of the new lazer trimmered mouthpiece. It is
correct? I

>>>     heard too, this partner built this mp in Europe, it is true? Please if

>>>     somebody have a little time to write me more info as possible, and you
feel

>>>     like doing, about Guardala carrier as manufacturer, as when was made
first mp,

>>>     where he work before make own... gossip ok too but technical info
better...

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> So who refinish now the mouthpiece before sale. Anyone of the staff
> working there or a "special hand" going to work there ? I hope all lazer
> trimmered are checked before leaving the manufacturer, isn't it?
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According to a post by Jeff Powell, the Guardala company was involved with
the initial production runs of the original Laser Trimmed Guardalas.  They
did some quality control.  Later runs sold by WW&BW did not have any
involvement of the Guardala company.  Also, the box they are packaged in
says "hand-finished" even though there is no hand finishing on the Laser
Trimmed Guardalas.

The new Guardalas appearing now (with the Rovner ligatures) at WW&BW appear
to have no involment of the Guardala company.  The company, per se, may
only exist on paper.  There is no "staff" at Guardala.  The new German-made
Guadalas look similar to the Laser Trimmed one in the US.  But I have only
seen pictures.  The new MB2 is not like the original hand-made MB2.  The
new one has a bullet chamber like a King.  They are just using the Guradala
and MB2 name for marketing.  They may be fine mouthpieces, but not the same
as the originals.

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An associate of mine who visited the production facility and who is in no
way affiliated with the Guardala company told me that the "laser trimmed"
series were not hand finished. He said they are sold just the way they come
off the machine. The ones I have tried played very well indeed. I am not
familiar enough with the differences in the various models past and present
to comment on any differences, and would defer to Keith's considerable
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--- Bebop Italia <cubismofree@...> wrote:

> So who refinish now the mouthpiece before sale. Anyone of the staff 
> working there or a "special hand" going to work there ? I hope all 
> lazer trimmered are checked before leaving the manufacturer, isn't it?
>  Gian
> 

According to a post by Jeff Powell, the Guardala company was involved with
the initial production runs of the original Laser Trimmed Guardalas.  They
did some quality control.  Later runs sold by WW&BW did not have any
involvement of the Guardala company.  Also, the box they are packaged in
says "hand-finished" even though there is no hand finishing on the Laser
Trimmed Guardalas.

The new Guardalas appearing now (with the Rovner ligatures) at WW&BW appear
to have no involment of the Guardala company.  The company, per se, may only
exist on paper.  There is no "staff" at Guardala.  The new German-made
Guadalas look similar to the Laser Trimmed one in the US.  But I have only
seen pictures.  The new MB2 is not like the original hand-made MB2.  The new
one has a bullet chamber like a King.  They are just using the Guradala and
MB2 name for marketing.  They may be fine mouthpieces, but not the same as
the originals.

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Keith and Steve... you are a treasure for me... living so far from States!
 
 I'm very proud to tell both of you I've test at home only one new Super King and I didnt buy for two big reasons. First my Barone Jazz8* is real my sound, and I called it my piece of butter, this mouthpiece let my SML to express the real character of this tenor. Second I got times ago a Dukoff D7 open and modified by Kei.... Mojo to .115, and when I want to have this kind of sound it play on that way, even more easy and where you can see a very nice hand job made with high refinement. You know what's the feeling when you look at the Dukoff chamber...
 
 I suggest a petition for Mr.Mojo as best refacer for Dukoff... sorry Keith the D8 is the only job I've seen, but I've in my mind to give you a P6 to reface and open to .110. I would like to know from you if you can give a darker tone, perhaps if P model is the darker of Dukoff, maybe with a longer curve of facing or as you well know.

 


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I've understud and I can translate for you directly to me...
 
 ...but you didnt understand well... I took nice of you only to keep a good price from my next order job!!! (joke)
 
 anyway I will write on private email regarding your job or what I'm looking and especting for.
 
  
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“Hand work” would be a much better word to use than “hand job”, but if
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Cheers from France

 

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Envoyé : mardi 2 mai 2006 14:19
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I've understud and I can translate for you directly to me...

...but you didnt understand well... I took nice of you only to keep a
good price from my next order job!!! (joke)

anyway I will write on private email regarding your job or what I'm
looking and especting for.

 
Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:

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the gorgeous Candy Dulfer :-) )…..

 

Cheers from France

 

Jacques 

 

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I've understud and I can translate for you directly to me...

...but you didnt understand well... I took nice of you only to keep a
good price from my next order job!!! (joke)

anyway I will write on private email regarding your job or what I'm
looking and especting for.

 
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hey Keith I don't want to tell you how 90% of the italian call a mouthpiece...
 is another kind of job (and only good for xxx gossip).

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Hei Jacques you too... watch out... you know that your family name in English it means...
 anyway saxuality is a dated album but still good. Is the one with a SO WHAT funky version ?

jacques FUCHS <jacques.fuchs@...> wrote:                   Oooopppss
   
  The name of Candy Dulfer�s album is Saxuality�. J
   
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 Objet : RE : [MouthpieceWork] Re: Gardala story
   
  �Hand work� would be a much better word to use than �hand job�, but if we want to speak about �sexuality� (also the name of a nice album from the gorgeous Candy Dulfer J )�..
   
  Cheers from France
   
    Jacques 
  
   
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 Objet : RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Gardala story
   
  I've understud and I can translate for you directly to me...
 
 ...but you didnt understand well... I took nice of you only to keep a good price from my next order job!!! (joke)
 
 anyway I will write on private email regarding your job or what I'm looking and especting for.
 
  
 Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
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To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: RE : RE : [MouthpieceWork] Re: Gardala story

Hei Jacques you too... watch out... you know that your family name in English it means...
anyway saxuality is a dated album but still good. Is the one with a SO WHAT funky version ?

jacques FUCHS wrote:
Oooopppss

The name of Candy Dulfer’s album is Saxuality…. J

Jacques 

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Envoyé : mardi 2 mai 2006 14:25
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“Hand work” would be a much better word to use than “hand job”, but if we want to speak about “sexuality” (also the name of a nice album from the gorgeous Candy Dulfer J )…..

Cheers from France

Jacques 

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Envoyé : mardi 2 mai 2006 14:19
À : MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Objet : RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Gardala story

I've understud and I can translate for you directly to me...

...but you didnt understand well... I took nice of you only to keep a good price from my next order job!!! (joke)

anyway I will write on private email regarding your job or what I'm looking and especting for.

 
Keith Bradbury wrote:
I admire everone's restraint in not commenting on the review of my "very
nice hand job".  This is how gossip can start. ;-)

Anyone know how to translate this back into Italian slang?

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Yes SO WHAT is on this album too.

 

And hopefully my name has an H and not a K ….. !!!! ;)

 

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Hei Jacques you too... watch out... you know that your family name in
English it means...
anyway saxuality is a dated album but still good. Is the one with a SO
WHAT funky version ?

jacques FUCHS <jacques.fuchs@...> wrote:

Oooopppss

 

The name of Candy Dulfer’s album is Saxuality…. :-)

 

Jacques 

 

-----Message d'origine-----
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[mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] De la part de jacques FUCHS
Envoyé : mardi 2 mai 2006 14:25
À : MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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“Hand work” would be a much better word to use than “hand job”, but if
we want to speak about “sexuality” (also the name of a nice album from
the gorgeous Candy Dulfer :-) )…..

 

Cheers from France

 

Jacques 

 

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[mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Bebop Italia
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À : MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Objet : RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Gardala story

 

I've understud and I can translate for you directly to me...

...but you didnt understand well... I took nice of you only to keep a
good price from my next order job!!! (joke)

anyway I will write on private email regarding your job or what I'm
looking and especting for.

 
Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:

I admire everone's restraint in not commenting on the review of my "very
nice hand job".  This is how gossip can start. ;-)

Anyone know how to translate this back into Italian slang?

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