Mouthpiece Work / Chirping
FROM: rwphillipsidaho (Bob Phillips)
SUBJECT: Chirping
Gentlemen and Ladies, I noted in passing on this group mention of a facing change that reduced "chirping" with a sax mouthpiece. Please offer me advice on a chirping problem I'm having. I have a few Bb soprano clarinet mouthpiece home for a trial. One is pretty wonderful, it is a Mitchell-Lurie M3. It allows me to play very softly without airiness; and it plays loud enough to blow the music stand up against the wall. The problem with this piece is that it "chirps" when tongued. That just makes it impossible to use. Is it worth finding someone to modify the facing, or is there another make or model of mouthpiece that plays like the M3 --but does not chirp? Thanks in advance for your help bob phillips Sandpoint, Idaho
FROM: merlin_williams_toronto (merlin_williams_toronto)
SUBJECT: Re: Chirping
Bob, I'm pretty sure I have a Mitchell Lurie M3 (an old one) in my box of project pieces at work. I'll have a look at it and see if I can maybe shed some light on your dilemma. What brand and strength of reeds are you using? Merlin --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Phillips" <rwphillipsidaho@g...> wrote: > > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > I noted in passing on this group mention of a facing change that > reduced "chirping" with a sax mouthpiece. > > Please offer me advice on a chirping problem I'm having. > > I have a few Bb soprano clarinet mouthpiece home for a trial. One is > pretty wonderful, it is a Mitchell-Lurie M3. It allows me to play > very softly without airiness; and it plays loud enough to blow the > music stand up against the wall. > > The problem with this piece is that it "chirps" when tongued. That > just makes it impossible to use. > > Is it worth finding someone to modify the facing, or is there another > make or model of mouthpiece that plays like the M3 --but does not chirp? > > Thanks in advance for your help > > bob phillips > Sandpoint, Idaho >
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Chirping
Chirping is sometimes caused by an uneven facing. Check that the tip and side rails are even. And of course check with a few different reeds if you haven't already. Sometimes an uneven facing can be counterbalanced by an uneven reed, though, so it is most important to check the facing, even if a different reed seems to solve the problem.
Toby
----- Original Message -----
From: merlin_williams_toronto
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chirping
Bob,
I'm pretty sure I have a Mitchell Lurie M3 (an old one) in my box of
project pieces at work. I'll have a look at it and see if I can maybe
shed some light on your dilemma. What brand and strength of reeds are
you using?
Merlin
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Phillips"
<rwphillipsidaho@g...> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen and Ladies,
>
> I noted in passing on this group mention of a facing change that
> reduced "chirping" with a sax mouthpiece.
>
> Please offer me advice on a chirping problem I'm having.
>
> I have a few Bb soprano clarinet mouthpiece home for a trial. One
is
> pretty wonderful, it is a Mitchell-Lurie M3. It allows me to play
> very softly without airiness; and it plays loud enough to blow the
> music stand up against the wall.
>
> The problem with this piece is that it "chirps" when tongued. That
> just makes it impossible to use.
>
> Is it worth finding someone to modify the facing, or is there
another
> make or model of mouthpiece that plays like the M3 --but does not
chirp?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
> bob phillips
> Sandpoint, Idaho
>
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FROM: petesajazzer (petesajazzer)
SUBJECT: Re: Chirping
Hello. Is it possible to define "Chirping " for me please? I know about squeaking alright but "chirping" is a new one! I now have a 'Ridenour MPc and use Vandorens ,2 or 2 &1/2 reeds and I still squeak!! I suppose I also need to know if I need an MPc with a more open lay? --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Toby" <kymarto123@y...> wrote: > > Chirping is sometimes caused by an uneven facing. Check that the tip and side rails are even. And of course check with a few different reeds if you haven't already. Sometimes an uneven facing can be counterbalanced by an uneven reed, though, so it is most important to check the facing, even if a different reed seems to solve the problem. > > Toby > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: merlin_williams_toronto > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:42 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chirping > > > Bob, > > I'm pretty sure I have a Mitchell Lurie M3 (an old one) in my box of > project pieces at work. I'll have a look at it and see if I can maybe > shed some light on your dilemma. What brand and strength of reeds are > you using? > > Merlin > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Phillips" > rwphillipsidaho@g... wrote: > > > > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > > > I noted in passing on this group mention of a facing change that > > reduced "chirping" with a sax mouthpiece. > > > > Please offer me advice on a chirping problem I'm having. > > > > I have a few Bb soprano clarinet mouthpiece home for a trial. One > is > > pretty wonderful, it is a Mitchell-Lurie M3. It allows me to play > > very softly without airiness; and it plays loud enough to blow the > > music stand up against the wall. > > > > The problem with this piece is that it "chirps" when tongued. That > > just makes it impossible to use. > > > > Is it worth finding someone to modify the facing, or is there > another > > make or model of mouthpiece that plays like the M3 --but does not > chirp? > > > > Thanks in advance for your help > > > > bob phillips > > Sandpoint, Idaho > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Saxophone Wind instrument Clarinet mouthpiece > Saxophone mouthpieces > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "MouthpieceWork" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >
FROM: rwphillipsidaho (Bob Phillips)
SUBJECT: Re: Chirping
By "chirping," I mean that when the tone starts, it starts with a short squeak and then settles down to the steady pitch. I have to do nothing to stop the "chrip." It just quickly goes away.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Chirping
I ran into this with a bari mouthpiece, an RIA metal. The guy even sent me some of his reeds, Vandorens. I could not make it chirp with other brands, just the Vandorens. I sent him back the mouthpiece, untouched, with some of the reeds I had used, and he had good results with them, too. Sometimes it isn't the mouthpiece, and it isn't just the reed, but the combination. So, try some different reeds. Too thin tip rail can also cause chirping. Paul Bob Phillips wrote: > By "chirping," I mean that when the tone starts, it starts with a > short squeak and then settles down to the steady pitch. I have to do > nothing to stop the "chrip." It just quickly goes away. > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "MouthpieceWork > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >
FROM: sfbobbyboy (sfbobbyboy)
SUBJECT: Re: Chirping
Stan Getz often had a chirp at the beginning of a note . I think he used a hard reed with a small opining . I don't know if it bugged him or not but I sort of liked it (or got used to it after 1000's listening) . --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > > I ran into this with a bari mouthpiece, an RIA metal. The guy even sent > me some of his reeds, Vandorens. I could not make it chirp with other > brands, just the Vandorens. I sent him back the mouthpiece, untouched, > with some of the reeds I had used, and he had good results with them, too. > > Sometimes it isn't the mouthpiece, and it isn't just the reed, but the > combination. So, try some different reeds. > > Too thin tip rail can also cause chirping. > > Paul > > Bob Phillips wrote: > > > By "chirping," I mean that when the tone starts, it starts with a > > short squeak and then settles down to the steady pitch. I have to do > > nothing to stop the "chrip." It just quickly goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "MouthpieceWork > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork>" on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >