Mouthpiece Work / Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches
FROM: sfbobbyboy (sfbobbyboy)
SUBJECT: Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches
Hi all
This is my first post . I've been enjoying reading through the old
ones and learning a lot .
My Tenor V16 has bite dents that are becoming very annoying .
It seems like I should try filling the teeth dents before actualy
replacing the plate.
Regarding epoxy I read that JB Weld was good but that Plumbers Putty
was better because it doesn't have as many carcinogens . I tried
"Magnum Steel" 5 minute epoxy. It was supposed to work on metals and
plastic and be sandable but it wouldn't stick so I am now trying super
glue gel .
After it dries I'll mask and file then use a clear patch .
Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated .

Regarding the clear plastic patches I got a roll of something at Tap
Plastic (I think it's for auto masking} . It was under a dollar for a
couple feet and is a little thinner then the Runyon clear patches.
With contact cement it will never come off but I recently discoverd
after being cut they stay on pretty well with no glue at all .

--bob rawlings
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches
Just a quick repost of a caution: almost all epoxies contain chemicals called xeroestrogens--hormone disrupters. They have been implicated in all sorts of nasty ailments including testicular cancer and falling sperm counts. You really should use a dental epoxy or one that is approved for oral use if it is going to be in contact with your mouth and saliva.

An alternative would be to use a cyanoacrylate (superglue)--the gel form is probably good--to fill the toothmarks before applying the bite plate. If the bite plate covers the entire area that you've patched then probably even epoxy is OK, but why take chances?

Toby
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sfbobbyboy 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:14 AM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches


  Hi all
  This is my first post . I've been enjoying reading through the old
  ones and learning a lot .
  My Tenor V16 has bite dents that are becoming very annoying .
  It seems like I should try filling the teeth dents before actualy
  replacing the plate.
  Regarding epoxy I read that JB Weld was good but that Plumbers Putty
  was better because it doesn't have as many carcinogens . I tried
  "Magnum Steel" 5 minute epoxy. It was supposed to work on metals and
  plastic and be sandable but it wouldn't stick so I am now trying super
  glue gel .
  After it dries I'll mask and file then use a clear patch .
  Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated .

  Regarding the clear plastic patches I got a roll of something at Tap
  Plastic (I think it's for auto masking} . It was under a dollar for a
  couple feet and is a little thinner then the Runyon clear patches.
  With contact cement it will never come off but I recently discoverd
  after being cut they stay on pretty well with no glue at all .

  --bob rawlings 




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FROM: sfbobbyboy (sfbobbyboy)
SUBJECT: Re: Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches
Thanks Toby 
That is some good information . I just spoke to a teacher that used JB
Weld to fix a chip on the tip of a clarinet mouthpiece for one of his
students .I'll let him know of the dangers .Do you (or anyone)have any
info on dental epoxy ? I think certain types require a black light
device to harden .



-- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Toby" <kymarto123@y...> wrote:
> Just a quick repost of a caution: almost all epoxies contain
chemicals called xeroestrogens--hormone disrupters. They have been
implicated in all sorts of nasty ailments including testicular cancer
and falling sperm counts. You really should use a dental epoxy or one
that is approved for oral use if it is going to be in contact with
your mouth and saliva.
> 
> An alternative would be to use a cyanoacrylate (superglue)--the gel
form is probably good--to fill the toothmarks before applying the bite
plate. If the bite plate covers the entire area that you've patched
then probably even epoxy is OK, but why take chances?
> 
> Toby
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sfbobbyboy 
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:14 AM
>   Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches
> 
> 
>   Hi all
>   This is my first post . I've been enjoying reading through the old
>   ones and learning a lot .
>   My Tenor V16 has bite dents that are becoming very annoying .
>   It seems like I should try filling the teeth dents before actualy
>   replacing the plate.
>   Regarding epoxy I read that JB Weld was good but that Plumbers
Putty
>   was better because it doesn't have as many carcinogens . I tried
>   "Magnum Steel" 5 minute epoxy. It was supposed to work on metals
and
>   plastic and be sandable but it wouldn't stick so I am now trying
super
>   glue gel .
>   After it dries I'll mask and file then use a clear patch .
>   Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated .
> 
>   Regarding the clear plastic patches I got a roll of something at
Tap
>   Plastic (I think it's for auto masking} . It was under a dollar
for a
>   couple feet and is a little thinner then the Runyon clear patches.
>   With contact cement it will never come off but I recently
discoverd
>   after being cut they stay on pretty well with no glue at all .
> 
>   --bob rawlings 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches
Stephen Howard used to use JB to fill toothmarks and I warned him also about this. He wrote directly to JB and they told him that their product was not recommended for oral use. If the surface area is small--like a chip--there probably isn't much danger, but a lot of exposed epoxy surface could lead to problems of leaching.

Like anything else it is a question of exposure. It's worth knowing that there is a possible danger, even if slight.

Acrylic casting resin is another possibility. It doesn't contain the plasticizers which cause the problem.

Toby


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sfbobbyboy 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:03 AM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches


  Thanks Toby 
  That is some good information . I just spoke to a teacher that used JB
  Weld to fix a chip on the tip of a clarinet mouthpiece for one of his
  students .I'll let him know of the dangers .Do you (or anyone)have any
  info on dental epoxy ? I think certain types require a black light
  device to harden .



  -- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Toby" <kymarto123@y...> wrote:
  > Just a quick repost of a caution: almost all epoxies contain
  chemicals called xeroestrogens--hormone disrupters. They have been
  implicated in all sorts of nasty ailments including testicular cancer
  and falling sperm counts. You really should use a dental epoxy or one
  that is approved for oral use if it is going to be in contact with
  your mouth and saliva.
  > 
  > An alternative would be to use a cyanoacrylate (superglue)--the gel
  form is probably good--to fill the toothmarks before applying the bite
  plate. If the bite plate covers the entire area that you've patched
  then probably even epoxy is OK, but why take chances?
  > 
  > Toby
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: sfbobbyboy 
  >   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:14 AM
  >   Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Bite Plate filler and mouthpiece patches
  > 
  > 
  >   Hi all
  >   This is my first post . I've been enjoying reading through the old
  >   ones and learning a lot .
  >   My Tenor V16 has bite dents that are becoming very annoying .
  >   It seems like I should try filling the teeth dents before actualy
  >   replacing the plate.
  >   Regarding epoxy I read that JB Weld was good but that Plumbers
  Putty
  >   was better because it doesn't have as many carcinogens . I tried
  >   "Magnum Steel" 5 minute epoxy. It was supposed to work on metals
  and
  >   plastic and be sandable but it wouldn't stick so I am now trying
  super
  >   glue gel .
  >   After it dries I'll mask and file then use a clear patch .
  >   Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated .
  > 
  >   Regarding the clear plastic patches I got a roll of something at
  Tap
  >   Plastic (I think it's for auto masking} . It was under a dollar
  for a
  >   couple feet and is a little thinner then the Runyon clear patches.
  >   With contact cement it will never come off but I recently
  discoverd
  >   after being cut they stay on pretty well with no glue at all .
  > 
  >   --bob rawlings 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Got a Mouthpiece Work question?  Send it to
  MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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  see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work.
  > 
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  oups.yahoo.com/mygroups 
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