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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Close Up Digital Pictures
Anyone have tips on how to take better close-ups of tip rail quality? My camera is a 2 Meg Canon so it is old by today's standards. It has a close-up mode (tulip icon) but its still not clear enough for me.
FROM: mdc5220 (michael d. collins)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
have you tried a tripod?
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From: Keith Bradbury
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Close Up Digital Pictures
Anyone have tips on how to take better close-ups of tip rail quality?
My camera is a 2 Meg Canon so it is old by today's standards. It has a
close-up mode (tulip icon) but its still not clear enough for me.
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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
No. My impression was that I had a focus problem. Could be vibration... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FROM: mdc5220 (michael d. collins)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
i am not a photographer so i'm guessin' -- i am a guessin that the camera has an auto ajdust for "film" speed and the lower the speed the better quality (more digital info stored) the pic and if you reduce the vibration of holding the camera you lower the speed of the "film" and get more detail -- if you have a tripod it certainly is an easy experiment.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Close Up Digital Pictures
No. My impression was that I had a focus problem. Could be vibration...
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FROM: rosss12000 (Ross Smith)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
Hi Keith
If you get closer to the subject than your camera will focus, it will always be blurry....
Close-up filters may help, (Inexpensive from a camera store)
Any camera movement during the exposure is also damaging.....
Maximum light will also help to sharpen focus.....
Direct sunlight is one of the best....
At least with digital, you find out right away.
Keep trying....It's easier than facings....:)
Ross
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Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Close Up Digital Pictures
No. My impression was that I had a focus problem. Could be vibration...
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FROM: r1l2h32000 (ralph hopper)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
Have you tried backing up a bit and using the optical zoom? You might get close enough doing this but still use a tripod for stability. Ralph --- Ross Smith <rfsmith@...> wrote: > > Hi Keith > If you get closer to the subject than your camera > will focus, it will always be blurry.... > Close-up filters may help, (Inexpensive from a > camera store) > > Any camera movement during the exposure is also > damaging..... > > Maximum light will also help to sharpen focus..... > Direct sunlight is one of the best.... > > At least with digital, you find out right away. > > Keep trying....It's easier than facings....:) > Ross > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Bradbury > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Close Up Digital > Pictures > > > No. My impression was that I had a focus problem. > Could be vibration... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to > Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
Hi Keith,
2 Mpix is plenty for prints up to 8x10. One thing you have to consider is the minimum focus distance--different cameras have different minimum focusing distances in macro mode. The old standard used to be about 20 cm--about 8 inches. New cameras have macro modes down to 1 cm. Also the minimum distance is usually at full wide, so you can't get away with zooming in when you are in macro mode.
Try using flash or bright illumination if you are not, as this will give you better depth of field and higher shutter speed, but I suspect that you just might be too close. You can try holding a decent magnifying glass or convex lens over the prime lens which will act as a close-up lens--you'll need to check your focus on the LCD screen on the camera to get it exactly right. The stronger the lens the closer you can get--you can change the magnification by changing the zoom. This will degrade the sharpness marginally but not enough to make any real difference.
Toby
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From: Keith Bradbury
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:36 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Close Up Digital Pictures
Anyone have tips on how to take better close-ups of tip rail quality?
My camera is a 2 Meg Canon so it is old by today's standards. It has a
close-up mode (tulip icon) but its still not clear enough for me.
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FROM: merlin_williams_toronto (merlin_williams_toronto)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
2Mp is OK for 8x10's, but you're better to keep them to 5x7 at most. As far as getting better closeups: 1. Tripod 2. Macro mode at the wide angle setting 3. Slow ISO setting 4. Sunlight OR cover the on camera flashtube with a double layer of 20lb copy paper to diffuse and reduce the amount of light. Keith - remember the pic I sent you of the really worn Guardala? It was done on a Canon A60 using these techniques. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Toby" <kymarto123@y...> wrote: > Hi Keith, > > 2 Mpix is plenty for prints up to 8x10. One thing you have to consider is the minimum focus distance--different cameras have different minimum focusing distances in macro mode. The old standard used to be about 20 cm--about 8 inches. New cameras have macro modes down to 1 cm. Also the minimum distance is usually at full wide, so you can't get away with zooming in when you are in macro mode. > > Try using flash or bright illumination if you are not, as this will give you better depth of field and higher shutter speed, but I suspect that you just might be too close. You can try holding a decent magnifying glass or convex lens over the prime lens which will act as a close-up lens--you'll need to check your focus on the LCD screen on the camera to get it exactly right. The stronger the lens the closer you can get--you can change the magnification by changing the zoom. This will degrade the sharpness marginally but not enough to make any real difference. > > Toby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Bradbury > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:36 AM > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Close Up Digital Pictures > > > > Anyone have tips on how to take better close-ups of tip rail quality? > > My camera is a 2 Meg Canon so it is old by today's standards. It has a > close-up mode (tulip icon) but its still not clear enough for me. > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
2Mp is OK for 8x10's, but you're better to keep them to 5x7 at most. As far as getting better closeups: 1. Tripod 2. Macro mode at the wide angle setting 3. Slow ISO setting 4. Sunlight OR cover the on camera flashtube with a double layer of 20lb copy paper to diffuse and reduce the amount of light. Keith - remember the pic I sent you of the really worn Guardala? It was done on a Canon A60 using these techniques. Agree, with the caveats that with care you can do decently without a tripod and that a high ISO setting increases noise somewhat, but usually not that much unless you are at 1600, and a high ISO setting allows for both greater depth of field and a higher shutter speed so often the tradeoff is worthwhile. Diffusing the flash is a very good idea. Thinner paper farther from the flashtube gives more light and diffuses it even better. Toby Toby
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
Thanks guys. I knew you would come through with some good suggestions. I have the same camera as Merlin does. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FROM: ed_svoboda (Ed Svoboda)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I'm a camera snob so take this with a grain of salt. 2MP will not give you a decent 8x10. There's just not enough information there. If you are printing to your color printer you need to be able to print at around 200 dpi. There's a host of arguments about if anything is gained by printing at 300 dpi on a color printer - not worth getting into here. The bottom line is that a 6 MP is going to give the average user usable 8x10's. I might get something I like out of it depending upon the camera. In the Canon world, I have big glass and the first affordable digital SLR that Canon has brought out that appeals to me is the 20D. It's reasonably fast and has enough resolution to approach or surpass film (depends on the film - IMHO). Use a tripod - the best advice anyone can give. The other thing I would say is know your equipment. My wife recently got some amazing images from her 3 MP point and shoot because she knows her equipment so well. Ed -----Original Message----- From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Toby Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures 2Mp is OK for 8x10's, but you're better to keep them to 5x7 at most. As far as getting better closeups: 1. Tripod 2. Macro mode at the wide angle setting 3. Slow ISO setting 4. Sunlight OR cover the on camera flashtube with a double layer of 20lb copy paper to diffuse and reduce the amount of light. Keith - remember the pic I sent you of the really worn Guardala? It was done on a Canon A60 using these techniques. Agree, with the caveats that with care you can do decently without a tripod and that a high ISO setting increases noise somewhat, but usually not that much unless you are at 1600, and a high ISO setting allows for both greater depth of field and a higher shutter speed so often the tradeoff is worthwhile. Diffusing the flash is a very good idea. Thinner paper farther from the flashtube gives more light and diffuses it even better. Toby Toby Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Yahoo! Groups Links
FROM: merlin_williams_toronto (merlin_williams_toronto)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I used the A60 for a lot of shots, but I've replaced it with an 8Mp Canon Pro 1. The best thing for me is being able to use off camera flash. Much better control over lighting and reflections that way. For product shots on the web though, a 2Mp cam does just fine... --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Svoboda" <esvoboda@c...> wrote: > I'm a camera snob so take this with a grain of salt. > > 2MP will not give you a decent 8x10. There's just not enough information > there. If you are printing to your color printer you need to be able to > print at around 200 dpi. There's a host of arguments about if anything is > gained by printing at 300 dpi on a color printer - not worth getting into > here. The bottom line is that a 6 MP is going to give the average user > usable 8x10's. I might get something I like out of it depending upon the > camera. In the Canon world, I have big glass and the first affordable > digital SLR that Canon has brought out that appeals to me is the 20D. It's > reasonably fast and has enough resolution to approach or surpass film > (depends on the film - IMHO). > > Use a tripod - the best advice anyone can give. The other thing I would say > is know your equipment. My wife recently got some amazing images from her 3 > MP point and shoot because she knows her equipment so well. > > > > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Toby > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:48 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures > > > > 2Mp is OK for 8x10's, but you're better to keep them to 5x7 at most. > > As far as getting better closeups: > > 1. Tripod > > 2. Macro mode at the wide angle setting > > 3. Slow ISO setting > > 4. Sunlight OR cover the on camera flashtube with a double layer of > 20lb copy paper to diffuse and reduce the amount of light. > > Keith - remember the pic I sent you of the really worn Guardala? It > was done on a Canon A60 using these techniques. > > Agree, with the caveats that with care you can do decently without a tripod > and that a high ISO setting increases noise somewhat, but usually not that > much unless you are at 1600, and a high ISO setting allows for both greater > depth of field and a higher shutter speed so often the tradeoff is > worthwhile. Diffusing the flash is a very good idea. Thinner paper farther > from the flashtube gives more light and diffuses it even better. > > Toby > > Toby > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the > Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > Yahoo! Groups Links
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I was only interested in good close-ups for web posting. I have no plans to print 8x10s, 5x7s or whatever. I just bought my daughter a Sony 93, 5 Meg (closing out). Mostly selected it because it takes short videos better than most. Twice the resolution and frames/sec. She does not want to take a lot of videos, but liked the few snipets I took with my camera. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I'm taking it with a grain of salt...I've got an old 3Mpx Fuji point and shoot and it gives me surprisingly good 8x10s. Much better than I expected. I admit that 2Mpx is getting down to the limit but an 8x10 viewed at a distance of 1 ft or so will look fine.
I heartily disagree, however, that you need 6 Mpx for a good 8x10. I've done lots of experiments with a 4000 ppi film scanner and resizing in PS and you usually will not see any marked improvement in prints after 150 ppi--which translates into a file 1200x1500 for an 8x10 or 1.8 Mpx. And yes I do have a good photo printer and I sell prints as well as being a photographer for the Photonica agency.
Toby
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From: Ed Svoboda
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I'm a camera snob so take this with a grain of salt.
2MP will not give you a decent 8x10. There's just not enough information
there. If you are printing to your color printer you need to be able to
print at around 200 dpi. There's a host of arguments about if anything is
gained by printing at 300 dpi on a color printer - not worth getting into
here. The bottom line is that a 6 MP is going to give the average user
usable 8x10's. I might get something I like out of it depending upon the
camera. In the Canon world, I have big glass and the first affordable
digital SLR that Canon has brought out that appeals to me is the 20D. It's
reasonably fast and has enough resolution to approach or surpass film
(depends on the film - IMHO).
Use a tripod - the best advice anyone can give. The other thing I would say
is know your equipment. My wife recently got some amazing images from her 3
MP point and shoot because she knows her equipment so well.
Ed
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From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Toby
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
2Mp is OK for 8x10's, but you're better to keep them to 5x7 at most.
As far as getting better closeups:
1. Tripod
2. Macro mode at the wide angle setting
3. Slow ISO setting
4. Sunlight OR cover the on camera flashtube with a double layer of
20lb copy paper to diffuse and reduce the amount of light.
Keith - remember the pic I sent you of the really worn Guardala? It
was done on a Canon A60 using these techniques.
Agree, with the caveats that with care you can do decently without a tripod
and that a high ISO setting increases noise somewhat, but usually not that
much unless you are at 1600, and a high ISO setting allows for both greater
depth of field and a higher shutter speed so often the tradeoff is
worthwhile. Diffusing the flash is a very good idea. Thinner paper farther
from the flashtube gives more light and diffuses it even better.
Toby
Toby
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FROM: yh3119 (cass_2)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
http://www.unitedsound.us/pics2/dukoff2.jpg I took this pic with a 2mp camera on macro mode. It look good to me and you can zoom in fairly close. I think the camera was a little less than a foot away. At 06:04 AM 4/21/2005, you wrote: >I'm taking it with a grain of salt...I've got an old 3Mpx Fuji point and >shoot and it gives me surprisingly good 8x10s. Much better than I >expected. I admit that 2Mpx is getting down to the limit but an 8x10 >viewed at a distance of 1 ft or so will look fine. > >I heartily disagree, however, that you need 6 Mpx for a good 8x10. I've >done lots of experiments with a 4000 ppi film scanner and resizing in PS >and you usually will not see any marked improvement in prints after 150 >ppi--which translates into a file 1200x1500 for an 8x10 or 1.8 Mpx. And >yes I do have a good photo printer and I sell prints as well as being a >photographer for the Photonica agency. > >Toby > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:esvoboda@...>Ed Svoboda >To: <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:50 AM >Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures > >I'm a camera snob so take this with a grain of salt. > >2MP will not give you a decent 8x10. There's just not enough information >there. If you are printing to your color printer you need to be able to >print at around 200 dpi. There's a host of arguments about if anything is >gained by printing at 300 dpi on a color printer - not worth getting into >here. The bottom line is that a 6 MP is going to give the average user >usable 8x10's. I might get something I like out of it depending upon the >camera. In the Canon world, I have big glass and the first affordable >digital SLR that Canon has brought out that appeals to me is the 20D. It's >reasonably fast and has enough resolution to approach or surpass film >(depends on the film - IMHO). > >Use a tripod - the best advice anyone can give. The other thing I would say >is know your equipment. My wife recently got some amazing images from her 3 >MP point and shoot because she knows her equipment so well. > > > >Ed > >-----Original Message----- >From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com] >On Behalf Of Toby >Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:48 PM >To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures > > > >2Mp is OK for 8x10's, but you're better to keep them to 5x7 at most. > >As far as getting better closeups: > >1. Tripod > >2. Macro mode at the wide angle setting > >3. Slow ISO setting > >4. Sunlight OR cover the on camera flashtube with a double layer of >20lb copy paper to diffuse and reduce the amount of light. > >Keith - remember the pic I sent you of the really worn Guardala? It >was done on a Canon A60 using these techniques. > >Agree, with the caveats that with care you can do decently without a tripod >and that a high ISO setting increases noise somewhat, but usually not that >much unless you are at 1600, and a high ISO setting allows for both greater >depth of field and a higher shutter speed so often the tradeoff is >worthwhile. Diffusing the flash is a very good idea. Thinner paper farther >from the flashtube gives more light and diffuses it even better. > >Toby > >Toby > > > > >Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > >Visit the site at ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork >to see the >Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > >To see and modify your groups, go to ><http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups>http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > >Visit the site at ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork >to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > >To see and modify your groups, go to ><http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups>http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > >Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > >Visit the site at ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork >to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > >To see and modify your groups, go to ><http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups>http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > >---------- >Yahoo! Groups Links >To visit your group on the web, go to: ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork/ > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ><mailto:MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.
FROM: ed_svoboda (esvoboda@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
Toby,
As you know opinions vary on what is the right amount of DPI for printing. I personally prefer to error on the side of too much rather than not enough. My preference is to still shoot with film cameras and scan when necessary. The 20D is the first offering from Canon that offers the amount of features and speed that I consider reasonable for my use. I use to shoot a lot of autoracing but these days stick to taking photos of family or nature. Regardless the idea of being able to stick a few 1 GB Compact Flash cards in my pocket and having the ability to store about 90 images per is something that bears looking into down the road.
Ed
---------------------------I'm taking it with a grain of salt...I've got an old 3Mpx Fuji point and shoot and it gives me surprisingly good 8x10s. Much better than I expected. I admit that 2Mpx is getting down to the limit but an 8x10 viewed at a distance of 1 ft or so will look fine.
I heartily disagree, however, that you need 6 Mpx for a good 8x10. I've done lots of experiments with a 4000 ppi film scanner and resizing in PS and you usually will not see any marked improvement in prints after 150 ppi--which translates into a file 1200x1500 for an 8x10 or 1.8 Mpx. And yes I do have a good photo printer and I sell prints as well as being a photographer for the Photonica agency.
Toby
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Svoboda
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I'm a camera snob so take this with a grain of salt.
2MP will not give you a decent 8x10. There's just not enough information
there. If you are printing to your color printer you need to be able to
print at around 200 dpi. There's a host of arguments about if anything is
gained by printing at 300 dpi on a color printer - not worth getting into
here. The bottom line is that a 6 MP is going to give the average user
usable 8x10's. I might get something I like out of it depending upon the
camera. In the Canon world, I have big glass and the first affordable
digital SLR that Canon has brought out that appeals to me is the 20D. It's
reasonably fast and has enough resolution to approach or surpass film
(depends on the film - IMHO).
Use a tripod - the best advice anyone can give. The other thing I would say
is know your equipment. My wife recently got some amazing images from her 3
MP point and shoot because she knows her equipment so well.
Ed
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From: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Toby
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
2Mp is OK for 8x10's, but you're better to keep them to 5x7 at most.
As far as getting better closeups:
1. Tripod
2. Macro mode at the wide angle setting
3. Slow ISO setting
4. Sunlight OR cover the on camera flashtube with a double layer of
20lb copy paper to diffuse and reduce the amount of light.
Keith - remember the pic I sent you of the really worn Guardala? It
was done on a Canon A60 using these techniques.
Agree, with the caveats that with care you can do decently without a tripod
and that a high ISO setting increases noise somewhat, but usually not that
much unless you are at 1600, and a high ISO setting allows for both greater
depth of field and a higher shutter speed so often the tradeoff is
worthwhile. Diffusing the flash is a very good idea. Thinner paper farther
from the flashtube gives more light and diffuses it even better.
Toby
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FROM: sjrosner (sjrosner)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I also have a Canon...PowerShot A40. If you use the manual mode and set a slow exposure with very small aperture, then light the specimen REAL BRIGHT and use a tripod, you can get much more depth of focus. This works better with film in a manual camera, but I have had some success on closeups. jeff --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "michael d. collins" <chedoggy@e...> wrote: > i am not a photographer so i'm guessin' -- i am a guessin that the camera has an auto ajdust for "film" speed and the lower the speed the better quality (more digital info stored) the pic and if you reduce the vibration of holding the camera you lower the speed of the "film" and get more detail -- if you have a tripod it certainly is an easy experiment. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Bradbury > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Close Up Digital Pictures > > > No. My impression was that I had a focus problem. Could be vibration... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I experimented some last night. I think my biggest problem was that I was too far away by standing over the piece placed on a table. I was using some zoom which gets real blurry on close-ups. Using no zoom (wide) and getting 2-3 inches away was mucho better. I think I tried up close a long time ago but did not have the macro mode on at the time. I think using a single focus point will help. I still need to play with a tripod and high ISO w/natural light vs low ISO w/diffused flash and other supplimentary lighting. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
Keith, since you are doing close-up work you might try one of those cheap high intensity lights quite close to the mpc. The biggest advantage with using a hot light instead of flash is that you can position it to best light the work--for instance way to the side to highlight the rail and leave the baffle darker, or wherever it needs to be to avoid specular reflection off polished metal surfaces. If you decide to get fancy you can also bounce it off of a white surface--like a piece of styrofoam--to get a soft light. Best of all you can see the effect with your eye, unlike when using a flash.
Toby
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From: Keith Bradbury
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Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I experimented some last night. I think my biggest problem was that I was
too far away by standing over the piece placed on a table. I was using
some zoom which gets real blurry on close-ups. Using no zoom (wide) and
getting 2-3 inches away was mucho better. I think I tried up close a long
time ago but did not have the macro mode on at the time.
I think using a single focus point will help. I still need to play with a
tripod and high ISO w/natural light vs low ISO w/diffused flash and other
supplimentary lighting.
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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I have 3 lights on my workbench. I plan to experiment there since it would be convenient for me to be able to take better close ups there. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FROM: merlin_williams_toronto (merlin_williams_toronto)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
Just watch out for the colour balance - you probably have tungsten lights, and that tends to make things very yellowish/overly warm in tone. Halogens are usually fine though. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@y...> wrote: > I have 3 lights on my workbench. I plan to experiment there since it would > be convenient for me to be able to take better close ups there. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com
FROM: jornsbergenson (Jorns)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
I don't know if anyone already mentioned it, but especially from a lighting standpoint, taking pictures of mouthpieces is much like jewelry photography. Do a google search on light boxes and you'll get a bunch of tips: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=diy+photo*+jewelry+% 22light+box%22&btnG=Search
FROM: jornsbergenson (Jorns)
SUBJECT: Re: Close Up Digital Pictures
> I don't know if anyone already mentioned it, but especially from a > lighting standpoint, taking pictures of mouthpieces is much like > jewelry photography. I thought that I'd add that I built a 14" by 14" light box from a plastic bin with the sides cut out to make a frame and a thin cotton sheet stretched over three sides. Then a couple of clip-on goose-neck high-intensity desk lamps (about $10 a piece) to provide the diffused lighting through the cotton sheet. Then some velvet material to put the piece to photograph on. Works great for taking pictures of all sorts of small objects.