Mouthpiece Work / eMachineShop Blank Finishing
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
I posted a pic of my first finished blank in the Photos CAD section. I had no particular plan and just started carving away at the baffle with my flex shaft. I ended up blending some ideas from Dukoffs, Lawtons and Guardalas. It was still too bright for me so I angled the flat part of the baffle down ~.060". I tried a couple of facings on it. It has a .107" tip/50L facing that is biased elliptical. I thinned the side rails and matched the outside shape of a tenor reed. Tip rail is about .027" thick. I opened the shank bore ~.015" to fit on my neck cork easier. The chamber volume is still on the small side, but my 10M prefers this. I curved the top beak edges some. Did some sanding, steel wool, buffing wheel. Flitz polish and an Ultrasonic cleaning. Plays nice with a 2.5 Fibracell. A little gritty (from the reed)... Brecker-ish if you push it. Next I plan to Nickle plate it (but I need to find some distilled water). But this brass does not taste bad like some do. Because of the flat beak, the tip will be thin in the middle and the thicker at the two corners after you curve the tip to match the reed. Just one of those geometry things.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Well my first electroless Nickle plating experiance went very well. Thanks to the advice here, I made sure the piece was ultra clean before plating. I put on a middle-of-the-road .0005" layer that went on real even. Took about 1 hr to heat up the bath and 30 min to plate. Took lots more minutes to read and decipher Caswell's intructions. They give a lot of good info, but you still need to fill in the gaps. I posted a pic in the Photos - CAD area. I'll post some tips if anyone else gets into it using the Caswell kit.
FROM: stevefowler1176 (Steve Fowler)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Hi, Keith.
I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some help. I will
plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or nickel or $10 plus shipping.
Gold would be $20. That's less than 1/2 of what I get outside the group.
(Gold gets silver plated first.)
Current turnaround would be about a week.
Hope to help!
Steve
===================
Steve Fowler
Fowler Music Service
-------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410-647-9537
www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/>
_____
From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Well my first electroless Nickle plating experiance went very well.
Thanks to the advice here, I made sure the piece was ultra clean
before plating. I put on a middle-of-the-road .0005" layer that went
on real even. Took about 1 hr to heat up the bath and 30 min to
plate.
Took lots more minutes to read and decipher Caswell's intructions.
They give a lot of good info, but you still need to fill in the
gaps.
I posted a pic in the Photos - CAD area. I'll post some tips if
anyone else gets into it using the Caswell kit.
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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Wow Steve, that's a great offer! Do you have any problems doing Gold or Silver over Nickle? Several modern MPs use Nickle under Gold (Link, metal Lakey). --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Fowler" <steve@f...> wrote: > Hi, Keith. > > I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some help. I will > plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or nickel or $10 plus shipping. > Gold would be $20. That's less than 1/2 of what I get outside the group. > (Gold gets silver plated first.) > > Current turnaround would be about a week. > > Hope to help! > > Steve > =================== > > Steve Fowler > > Fowler Music Service > -------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs -------- > ------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------ > > 602 Kent Avenue > Pasadena, MD 21122 > 410-647-9537 > > www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/> >
FROM: carguy1975 (Matt Norman)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
So, other the looks, are there any advantages to Gold, Nickel or Silver plating?
Matt N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Fowler
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Hi, Keith.
I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some help. I will plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or nickel or $10 plus shipping. Gold would be $20. That's less than 1/2 of what I get outside the group. (Gold gets silver plated first.)
Current turnaround would be about a week.
Hope to help!
Steve
===================
Steve Fowler
Fowler Music Service
-------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410-647-9537
www.fowlermusic.com
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From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Well my first electroless Nickle plating experiance went very well.
Thanks to the advice here, I made sure the piece was ultra clean
before plating. I put on a middle-of-the-road .0005" layer that went
on real even. Took about 1 hr to heat up the bath and 30 min to
plate.
Took lots more minutes to read and decipher Caswell's intructions.
They give a lot of good info, but you still need to fill in the
gaps.
I posted a pic in the Photos - CAD area. I'll post some tips if
anyone else gets into it using the Caswell kit.
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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Chrome plating generally requires "triple plating". First a flash of copper, then a nickle, the chrome. But the finish is quite hard and if done correctly, durable. Very hard to breack through this to reface, and difficult to touch up afterwards. Silver, relatively easy, but constantly turns black. Polishing will eventually remove it. Easy to brush plate silver back on the facing after facing work. Gold, must be plated first with silver. Gold is soft, and wears quickly through to the silver. Easy to brush plate silver, then gold after refacing work. Nickel... 95% as hard as chrome, and used in place of chrome in many industrial applications. Not as bright as chrome. Looks good after many years. No experience replating after refacing. I want to try the electroless nickel. This seems the best overall, to me. Some comments from Steve Fowler again? Paul Matt Norman wrote: > So, other the looks, are there any advantages to Gold, Nickel or > Silver plating? > > Matt N. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Fowler <mailto:steve@...> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:26 AM > Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing > > Hi, Keith. > > I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some help. > I will plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or nickel or > $10 plus shipping. Gold would be $20. That's less than 1/2 of what > I get outside the group. (Gold gets silver plated first.) > > Current turnaround would be about a week. > > Hope to help! > > Steve > =================== > > Steve Fowler > > Fowler Music Service > -------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs -------- > ------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------ > > 602 Kent Avenue > Pasadena, MD 21122 > 410-647-9537 > > www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...] > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:48 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing > > > Well my first electroless Nickle plating experiance went very well. > Thanks to the advice here, I made sure the piece was ultra clean > before plating. I put on a middle-of-the-road .0005" layer that went > on real even. Took about 1 hr to heat up the bath and 30 min to > plate. > > Took lots more minutes to read and decipher Caswell's intructions. > They give a lot of good info, but you still need to fill in the > gaps. > > I posted a pic in the Photos - CAD area. I'll post some tips if > anyone else gets into it using the Caswell kit. > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > >
FROM: stevefowler1176 (Steve Fowler)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
No. It's not a problem, but I think that it blisters easier. Just an
observation. We've always used silver as an base plate under gold for brass
instrument mouthpieces and I have NEVER had a return for blistering. Every
commercial gold piece that I have seen with blisters and pits was plated
over nickel or stainless.
Also, if any of you start to get into any quantity, we can talk a little
break from there. I'm going to be plating the mouthpieces for a new line of
trumpet and trombone mouthpieces, and can just slip them in with those.
NOTE TO ALL: At these prices I will be doing color buffing only. If you
want, I will do the buffing and polishing for an additional $10 per piece.
Steve
===================
Steve Fowler
Fowler Music Service
-------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410-647-9537
www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/>
_____
From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:40 AM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Wow Steve, that's a great offer! Do you have any problems doing Gold
or Silver over Nickle? Several modern MPs use Nickle under Gold
(Link, metal Lakey).
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Fowler" <steve@f...>
wrote:
> Hi, Keith.
>
> I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some help.
I will
> plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or nickel or $10 plus
shipping.
> Gold would be $20. That's less than 1/2 of what I get outside the
group.
> (Gold gets silver plated first.)
>
> Current turnaround would be about a week.
>
> Hope to help!
>
> Steve
> ===================
>
> Steve Fowler
>
> Fowler Music Service
> -------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
> ------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
>
> 602 Kent Avenue
> Pasadena, MD 21122
> 410-647-9537
>
> www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/>
>
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FROM: stevefowler1176 (Steve Fowler)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Nickel is more "slippery" than gold or silver with silver being the least
slippery of all. Gold is easier to maintain than silver and even if the
piece doesn't play, it looks cool! :-)
Steve
===================
Steve Fowler
Fowler Music Service
-------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410-647-9537
www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/>
_____
From: Matt Norman [mailto:carguy1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:58 AM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
So, other the looks, are there any advantages to Gold, Nickel or Silver
plating?
Matt N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <mailto:steve@...> Fowler
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Hi, Keith.
I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some help. I will
plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or nickel or $10 plus shipping.
Gold would be $20. That's less than 1/2 of what I get outside the group.
(Gold gets silver plated first.)
Current turnaround would be about a week.
Hope to help!
Steve
===================
Steve Fowler
Fowler Music Service
-------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410-647-9537
www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/>
_____
From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Well my first electroless Nickle plating experiance went very well.
Thanks to the advice here, I made sure the piece was ultra clean
before plating. I put on a middle-of-the-road .0005" layer that went
on real even. Took about 1 hr to heat up the bath and 30 min to
plate.
Took lots more minutes to read and decipher Caswell's intructions.
They give a lot of good info, but you still need to fill in the
gaps.
I posted a pic in the Photos - CAD area. I'll post some tips if
anyone else gets into it using the Caswell kit.
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FROM: stevefowler1176 (Steve Fowler)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Overall, I agree with Paul. However, in my experience, gold only wears
quickly when there has not been enough put on in the first place! I have
never... okay maybe once, and I'm not even sure about this, had a gold
mouthpiece back for a redo because it wore off. Heavy gold is a very stable,
durable surface.
From an engineering standpoint, electroless nickel is softer and easier to
work, rework, than a piece plated in standard Watts-type plating bath. The
surface is softer. However, with electroless nickel, you plate as much on
the inside of the mouthpiece as you do anywhere else. With an electroplate
bath, that's not the case. You can setup the bath to plate heavier on the
top surface while avoiding changes to the lay. I can plate both so it's
entirely up to you guys.
Silver turns black only with some people. I personally have never had a
problem with it and yet the flute player that sat next to me at the Naval
Academy for 20 years could turn a flute black from across the room in 45
minutes! People that eat a lot of tomato based foods should avoid silver.
Seeing that Pizza uses tomato sauce... that includes most sax players!?!?
Steve
===================
Steve Fowler
Fowler Music Service
-------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410-647-9537
www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/>
_____
From: Paul Coats [mailto:tenorman@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:36 AM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Chrome plating generally requires "triple plating". First a flash of
copper, then a nickle, the chrome. But the finish is quite hard and if done
correctly, durable. Very hard to breack through this to reface, and
difficult to touch up afterwards.
Silver, relatively easy, but constantly turns black. Polishing will
eventually remove it. Easy to brush plate silver back on the facing after
facing work.
Gold, must be plated first with silver. Gold is soft, and wears quickly
through to the silver. Easy to brush plate silver, then gold after refacing
work.
Nickel... 95% as hard as chrome, and used in place of chrome in many
industrial applications. Not as bright as chrome. Looks good after many
years. No experience replating after refacing. I want to try the
electroless nickel. This seems the best overall, to me.
Some comments from Steve Fowler again?
Paul
Matt Norman wrote:
So, other the looks, are there any advantages to Gold, Nickel or Silver
plating?
Matt N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <mailto:steve@...> Fowler
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Hi, Keith.
I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some help. I will
plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or nickel or $10 plus shipping.
Gold would be $20. That's less than 1/2 of what I get outside the group.
(Gold gets silver plated first.)
Current turnaround would be about a week.
Hope to help!
Steve
===================
Steve Fowler
Fowler Music Service
-------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs --------
------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410-647-9537
www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/>
_____
From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:48 PM
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Well my first electroless Nickle plating experiance went very well.
Thanks to the advice here, I made sure the piece was ultra clean
before plating. I put on a middle-of-the-road .0005" layer that went
on real even. Took about 1 hr to heat up the bath and 30 min to
plate.
Took lots more minutes to read and decipher Caswell's intructions.
They give a lot of good info, but you still need to fill in the
gaps.
I posted a pic in the Photos - CAD area. I'll post some tips if
anyone else gets into it using the Caswell kit.
Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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FROM: jgoeckermann (Jim Goeckermann)
SUBJECT: Plating a sax
Steve, or any other platers, Do you offer plating services for an entire sax? I have a Vingage Buescher tenor (apart) that I have considered nickle plating. I would be interested in cost and suitability comments from the brothern. Thanks, Jim
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
I have a Selmer metal tenor mouthpiece on the shelf now that I have quite polishing, it almost looks like hard rubber... hah! Paul Steve Fowler wrote: > Overall, I agree with Paul. However, in my experience, gold only wears > quickly when there has not been enough put on in the first place! I > have never... okay maybe once, and I'm not even sure about this, had a > gold mouthpiece back for a redo because it wore off. Heavy gold is a > very stable, durable surface. > > From an engineering standpoint, electroless nickel is softer and > easier to work, rework, than a piece plated in standard Watts-type > plating bath. The surface is softer. However, with electroless nickel, > you plate as much on the inside of the mouthpiece as you do anywhere > else. With an electroplate bath, that's not the case. You can setup > the bath to plate heavier on the top surface while avoiding changes to > the lay. I can plate both so it's entirely up to you guys. > > Silver turns black only with some people. I personally have never had > a problem with it and yet the flute player that sat next to me at the > Naval Academy for 20 years could turn a flute black from across the > room in 45 minutes! People that eat a lot of tomato based foods should > avoid silver. Seeing that Pizza uses tomato sauce... that includes > most sax players!?!? > > Steve > > > =================== > > Steve Fowler > > Fowler Music Service > -------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs -------- > ------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------ > > 602 Kent Avenue > Pasadena, MD 21122 > 410-647-9537 > > www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Paul Coats [mailto:tenorman@...] > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:36 AM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing > > Chrome plating generally requires "triple plating". First a flash of > copper, then a nickle, the chrome. But the finish is quite hard and > if done correctly, durable. Very hard to breack through this to > reface, and difficult to touch up afterwards. > > Silver, relatively easy, but constantly turns black. Polishing will > eventually remove it. Easy to brush plate silver back on the facing > after facing work. > > Gold, must be plated first with silver. Gold is soft, and wears > quickly through to the silver. Easy to brush plate silver, then gold > after refacing work. > > Nickel... 95% as hard as chrome, and used in place of chrome in many > industrial applications. Not as bright as chrome. Looks good after > many years. No experience replating after refacing. I want to try > the electroless nickel. This seems the best overall, to me. > > Some comments from Steve Fowler again? > > Paul > > Matt Norman wrote: > >> So, other the looks, are there any advantages to Gold, Nickel or >> Silver plating? >> >> Matt N. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Steve Fowler <mailto:steve@...> >> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:26 AM >> Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing >> >> Hi, Keith. >> >> I've been lurking for a while and thought I would offer some >> help. I will plate any mouthpiece for the group in silver or >> nickel or $10 plus shipping. Gold would be $20. That's less than >> 1/2 of what I get outside the group. (Gold gets silver plated first.) >> >> Current turnaround would be about a week. >> >> Hope to help! >> >> Steve >> =================== >> >> Steve Fowler >> >> Fowler Music Service >> -------- Custom Band Instrument Repairs -------- >> ------ Plating in Silver and Gold ------ >> >> 602 Kent Avenue >> Pasadena, MD 21122 >> 410-647-9537 >> >> www.fowlermusic.com <http://www.fowlermusic.com/> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...] >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:48 PM >> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing >> >> >> Well my first electroless Nickle plating experiance went very well. >> Thanks to the advice here, I made sure the piece was ultra clean >> before plating. I put on a middle-of-the-road .0005" layer that >> went >> on real even. Took about 1 hr to heat up the bath and 30 min to >> plate. >> >> Took lots more minutes to read and decipher Caswell's intructions. >> They give a lot of good info, but you still need to fill in the >> gaps. >> >> I posted a pic in the Photos - CAD area. I'll post some tips if >> anyone else gets into it using the Caswell kit. >> >> >> >> >> >> Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to >> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> >> Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to >> see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. >> >> To see and modify your groups, go to >> http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups >> >> >> >> Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to >> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> >> Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to >> see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. >> >> To see and modify your groups, go to >> http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups >> >> >> >> Got a Mouthpiece Work question? 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FROM: danielmarsteller (dandjmars@...)
SUBJECT: Re: eMachineShop Blank Finishing
Paul - Please send PDF file. Many thanks, Dan Marsteller