Where do I purchase a Winslow Guage? Thanks in advance.

MV

As far as I know, it is only sold as part of the Winslow kit.

Ok then, pardon my ignorance, where pray tell to I get the Winslow 
kit? Do you have a direct contact with Winslow?
Thanks in advance

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" 
<kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> 
> As far as I know, it is only sold as part of the Winslow kit.

The kit is made by Madison Enterprises in Madison, Wisconsin.  I have 
an old number as (608)241-1124.

They seem to have an unusual, reclusive marketing strategy.  They may 
not welcome direct contact, though this number was printed on 
literature from them that came with the kit.  WW&BW used to sell the 
Winslow kit but it was frequently out of stock.

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" 
<kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> 
> The kit is made by Madison Enterprises in Madison, Wisconsin.  I 
have 
> an old number as (608)241-1124.
> 
> They seem to have an unusual, reclusive marketing strategy.  They 
may 
> not welcome direct contact, though this number was printed on 
> literature from them that came with the kit.  WW&BW used to sell 
the 
> Winslow kit but it was frequently out of stock.

Thank You Keith.

Best,
Mike

I contacted Winslow by phone about a year ago to make inquiries about 
the gauge.

I got him in person on the phone, and he seemed to be taken aback at 
the request. I asked him if he could come up with a price for me and 
let me know. I never heard from him again.


--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" 
<kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> 
> The kit is made by Madison Enterprises in Madison, Wisconsin.  I 
have 
> an old number as (608)241-1124.
> 
> They seem to have an unusual, reclusive marketing strategy.  They 
may 
> not welcome direct contact, though this number was printed on 
> literature from them that came with the kit.  WW&BW used to sell 
the 
> Winslow kit but it was frequently out of stock.

Way back, I once called them to get a bar sax mouthpiece cap to fit over a
sop sax Winslow Ligature (used on a bari).  I talked to several people, but
they were helpful.  I paid for one but they sent me 2 different sizes to
insure I got a good fit.

But I have heard of many unusual customer-service stories.  



		
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As far as I have been able to determine, Madison Enterprises may very
well be defunct.  

Paul Coats

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury
<kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> Way back, I once called them to get a bar sax mouthpiece cap to fit
over a
> sop sax Winslow Ligature (used on a bari).  I talked to several
people, but
> they were helpful.  I paid for one but they sent me 2 different sizes to
> insure I got a good fit.
> 
> But I have heard of many unusual customer-service stories.  
> 
> 
> 
> 		
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--- tenorman1952 <tenorman@...> wrote:

> 
> As far as I have been able to determine, Madison
> Enterprises may very
> well be defunct.  
> 
> Paul Coats
> 
> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith
> Bradbury
> <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > Way back, I once called them to get a bar sax
> mouthpiece cap to fit
> over a
> > sop sax Winslow Ligature (used on a bari).  I
> talked to several
> people, but
> > they were helpful.  I paid for one but they sent
> me 2 different sizes to
> > insure I got a good fit.
> > 
> > But I have heard of many unusual customer-service
> stories.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 		
> > __________________________________ 
> > Do you Yahoo!? 
> > All your favorites on one personal page � Try My
> Yahoo!
> > http://my.yahoo.com
> 
> 
> Hi:

These people ARE kind of bizarre.  You have to be
quite direct in terms of what you want.

On a related issue, I emailed Theo, and he mailed back
quickly.  He has not seen any of the posts on the
Mouthpiece Work@yahoo site, but said he will check
them out.

BK  



		
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>I contacted Winslow by phone about a year ago to make inquiries about the 
>gauge.
>I got him in person on the phone, and he seemed to be taken aback at the 
>request. I asked him if he could come up with a price for me and let me 
>know. I never heard from him again.

This was my exact experience as well and I even told them Paul sent me. I 
wouldn't hold my breath waiting for one of these.

** Maybe one of you fine fellows that already has one would take it to a 
machine shop and have them make a few up. All that is needed is a machined 
piece of aluminum, depth gauges are available from all sorts of places.***


Keith

The profit part is hard...my experience with the feeler gauges is that
I can barely charge enough to cover my time at much less than I get
per hour for repair (and $5 certainly doesn't cover packaging and the
occasional hour to pack and run off to the post office). It takes time
to make a precision product. I know a local who does very fine etched
glass art work, and might do some gauges, but it's hard to imagine
beating the $20 price of the Babbitt gauges. I do much better with the
entrepeneur things I do for wealthy people (this class includes very
few musicians). 

jeff

--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "aniewood" <aniewood@y...> wrote:
> 
> When I was looking into getting started... and was trying to buy the 
> necessary tools and gauges, I also called Winslow in Wisconsin.  He 
> actually was the one to answer the phone, but just 
> answered "Hello??" like one would answer their phone at home.  Not 
> the typical business telephone greeting "Hello Madison Enterprises, 
> can I help you? or How may I direct your call? Etc"
> 
>       Anyhoo, I asked about ordering the whole kit.  He first 
> clarified if I had already paid & ordered the kit on-line or not (I 
> had not)...  Then asked for my telephone number, and said he would 
> call me back.  I never heard from him again.
> 
>    My guess is that the kit is no longer available.  Too bad, it 
> looked like a good way to get started.
> 
> J.J Babbitt does not want to sell their gauges in bulk, or as part 
> of a refacing kit.  Just one set at a time.  Why educate people on 
> how to work on their products?
>   For those entrepreneur types…  It might be a cool idea to have a 
> glass cutter make up a bunch of graduated Glass gauges.  Have a 
> machinist make an accurate tip opening gauge.  And then sell all the 
> necessary measuring devices along with a small surface plate and 
> some hand files…  Everything needed to get started - all in one 
> order – from the same source.  To my knowledge, no one has a package 
> deal like this available.  Would something like that be cost 
> effective and also allow the manufacturer to make a profit?
> 
>  -Niewood