FROM: dantorosian (Dan Torosian)
SUBJECT: File advice
I was just perusing Micro-Mark's website, looking at file sets.  Keith 
had mentioned set #60526 - 10 coarse needle files - as a good starter.  
By the descriptions on the website, though, I was thinking of going with 
set #81063 - "mid-size file set" with rubber-coated handles (they match 
the description of another of Keith's reccomendations), which contains 
slightly smaller files. 

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Any advice?  Should I bite the bullet and just get a couple of sets? 
Tiny files?  Rifflers?   Thanks in advance, folks.

BTW - I think I have chosen my first mouthpiece victim, er, 
"subject"...  A Yamaha bari mouthpiece (YBS-L1) with an uneven table, a 
big flat section in the curve, a very small tip opening (to be widened 
to the point where the facing curve can be corrected), and big tooth 
gouges on top.  It actually plays OK, considering, but it looks like 
lots of good practice in one mouthpiece.

Dan Torosian



FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: File advice
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Dan Torosian <dtorosian@e...> 
wrote:
> I was just perusing Micro-Mark's website, looking at file sets.  
Keith 
> had mentioned set #60526 - 10 coarse needle files - as a good 
starter.  
> By the descriptions on the website, though, I was thinking of going 
with 
> set #81063 - "mid-size file set" with rubber-coated handles (they 
match 
> the description of another of Keith's reccomendations), which 
contains 
> slightly smaller files. 
> 
> Any advice?  Should I bite the bullet and just get a couple of 
sets? 
> Tiny files?  Rifflers?   Thanks in advance, folks.
> 

I have both sets.  I use the 81063 set more and I am on my second set 
of these.  Stainless steel dulled my first set.  I would recommend 
wrapping sandpaper around files when working on SS or just plan on 
buying files regularly.  These sets really do not cost much.

I have a set of 82262 riffler files but they are a little too 
coarse.  Good for scooping out sidewalls, but they leave deep 
scratches that need a lot of sanding to clean up.  I did not like the 
looks of the 33111A riffler shapes, so I have not tried them.



FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: File advice
I don't know what you guys have available in the US, but here in Japan I can buy small diamond files in various shapes for a buck apiece (made in China naturally). They cut through SS like butter--in fact you have to be careful or you end up taking off too much too quickly. 

They are definitely worth a try if you can find them.

Toby
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Bradbury 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 12:06 AM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: File advice


  --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Dan Torosian <dtorosian@e...> 
  wrote:
  > I was just perusing Micro-Mark's website, looking at file sets.  
  Keith 
  > had mentioned set #60526 - 10 coarse needle files - as a good 
  starter.  
  > By the descriptions on the website, though, I was thinking of going 
  with 
  > set #81063 - "mid-size file set" with rubber-coated handles (they 
  match 
  > the description of another of Keith's reccomendations), which 
  contains 
  > slightly smaller files. 
  > 
  > Any advice?  Should I bite the bullet and just get a couple of 
  sets? 
  > Tiny files?  Rifflers?   Thanks in advance, folks.
  > 

  I have both sets.  I use the 81063 set more and I am on my second set 
  of these.  Stainless steel dulled my first set.  I would recommend 
  wrapping sandpaper around files when working on SS or just plan on 
  buying files regularly.  These sets really do not cost much.

  I have a set of 82262 riffler files but they are a little too 
  coarse.  Good for scooping out sidewalls, but they leave deep 
  scratches that need a lot of sanding to clean up.  I did not like the 
  looks of the 33111A riffler shapes, so I have not tried them.




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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: emachineshop.com
www.emachineshop.com

You download (free) their CAD software, design your part, and order it.

I have only this to say... the possibilities are mind-boggling!!!

Paul Coats

>
FROM: bluesnote2000 (dan lunsford)
SUBJECT: Re: File advice
--- Toby <kymarto123@...> wrote:

> I don't know what you guys have available in the US,
> but here in Japan I can buy small diamond files in
> various shapes for a buck apiece (made in China
> naturally). They cut through SS like butter--in fact
> you have to be careful or you end up taking off too
> much too quickly. 
> 
> They are definitely worth a try if you can find
> them.
> 
> Toby
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Keith Bradbury 
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 12:06 AM
>   Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: File advice
> 
> 
>   --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Dan
> Torosian <dtorosian@e...> 
>   wrote:
>   > I was just perusing Micro-Mark's website,
> looking at file sets.  
>   Keith 
>   > had mentioned set #60526 - 10 coarse needle
> files - as a good 
>   starter.  
>   > By the descriptions on the website, though, I
> was thinking of going 
>   with 
>   > set #81063 - "mid-size file set" with
> rubber-coated handles (they 
>   match 
>   > the description of another of Keith's
> reccomendations), which 
>   contains 
>   > slightly smaller files. 
>   > 
>   > Any advice?  Should I bite the bullet and just
> get a couple of 
>   sets? 
>   > Tiny files?  Rifflers?   Thanks in advance,
> folks.
>   > 
> 
>   I have both sets.  I use the 81063 set more and I
> am on my second set 
>   of these.  Stainless steel dulled my first set.  I
> would recommend 
>   wrapping sandpaper around files when working on SS
> or just plan on 
>   buying files regularly.  These sets really do not
> cost much.
> 
>   I have a set of 82262 riffler files but they are a
> little too 
>   coarse.  Good for scooping out sidewalls, but they
> leave deep 
>   scratches that need a lot of sanding to clean up. 
> I did not like the 
>   looks of the 33111A riffler shapes, so I have not
> tried them.
> 
> 
> 
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I wish I could find some of those. ANy ideas?

Thanks,

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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: emachineshop.com
My Sunday newspaper just ran an AP article on eMachineShop in the Business
section.  I imagine the article ran nation wide.  I was intrigued so I
downloaded the software and ran through the tutorials.  I too am hoping it
is applicable to making custom mouthpiece blanks.  But I think it will take
a fancier CNC machine than a 3-axis one to make a good blank.  



		
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FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: File advice
The MicroMark diamond files I have used are too coarse and leave deep
scratches.  I still use them to rough out SS.  Finer grits are probably
available somewhere.


		
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FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: emachineshop.com
Yes, that is why I posted the link... and it is an idea whose time has come.

I looked at pricing examples, and quantity is the thing.  As you order 
more units, the cost per unit drops at a fantastic rate.

Still, this is a possibility!

Paul

Keith Bradbury wrote:

> My Sunday newspaper just ran an AP article on eMachineShop in the Business
> section.  I imagine the article ran nation wide.  I was intrigued so I
> downloaded the software and ran through the tutorials.  I too am hoping it
> is applicable to making custom mouthpiece blanks.  But I think it will 
> take
> a fancier CNC machine than a 3-axis one to make a good blank. 
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FROM: kymarto (Toby)
SUBJECT: Re: File advice
Yes, they are quite coarse--you can't use them for finishing but with care you can get a lot of material off very quickly.

Toby
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Bradbury 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: File advice


  The MicroMark diamond files I have used are too coarse and leave deep
  scratches.  I still use them to rough out SS.  Finer grits are probably
  available somewhere.


              
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FROM: wyznerd (wyznerd)
SUBJECT: Re: File advice
I bought a set of fine diamond needle files at Harbor Freight for 
about $12.  The marks they leave are about the same as 320 grit 
sandpaper and polish out easily with 600 grit paper.  They don't "go 
through Stainless Steel like butter" but they do cut.  I use them 
with water as a lube and so far they haven't clogged up even when 
working on Dukoff Silverite (I keep them wet and use a fingernail 
brush on them every couple minutes). 


--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury 
<kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> The MicroMark diamond files I have used are too coarse and leave 
deep
> scratches.  I still use them to rough out SS.  Finer grits are 
probably
> available somewhere.