Hi Keith and all.

I hope you don't mind revisiting the intonation issue. I've been busy
repairing  school 
horns and have not had a chance to check my e-mail  for the past
month.

My question is this. I've been opening up old crappy  mouthpieces ,
mostly with small 
choke style chambers and i'm finding the general intonation on these
mouthpieces to be 
wonky when i'm finished. What could make these  pieces play more out
of tune than my 
old slant n.y. mouthpiece that has the same tip opening. Is it the
small chamber, rails too 
skinny . etc.I've noticed that Lakey mouthpieces have this same
problem, they tend to be 
wild and untamable. 

Thanks in advance, 

Tom Gould

Massullo music
Vancouver,Canada

It's pretty commonly accepted that, all other things equal, a smaller tip 
opening tends to emphasize the fundamental pitch and reduces the overtones.  
It could be that when you open up these small-chambered mouthpieces, you're 
aggravating a problem that was there all along, but was less noticeable 
thanks to the effect of the smaller tip opening.  Maybe the small chambers 
aren't the best match for the horns they're being played on.

Or it could be that whoever is playing these mouthpieces after they're 
opened up isn't accustomed to a larger tip opening, and just needs some time 
to get used to it.

Mike Ruhl

>From: "tomsolidgould" <tngould@...>
>Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [MouthpieceWork] intonation revisited
>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:18:38 -0000
>
>Hi Keith and all.
>
>I hope you don't mind revisiting the intonation issue. I've been busy
>repairing  school
>horns and have not had a chance to check my e-mail  for the past
>month.
>
>My question is this. I've been opening up old crappy  mouthpieces ,
>mostly with small
>choke style chambers and i'm finding the general intonation on these
>mouthpieces to be
>wonky when i'm finished. What could make these  pieces play more out
>of tune than my
>old slant n.y. mouthpiece that has the same tip opening. Is it the
>small chamber, rails too
>skinny . etc.I've noticed that Lakey mouthpieces have this same
>problem, they tend to be
>wild and untamable.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Tom Gould
>
>Massullo music
>Vancouver,Canada
>
>
>
>
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--- tomsolidgould <tngould@...> wrote:
> Hi Keith and all.
> 
> I hope you don't mind revisiting the intonation
> issue. I've been busy
> repairing  school 
> horns and have not had a chance to check my e-mail 
> for the past
> month.
> 
> My question is this. I've been opening up old crappy
>  mouthpieces ,
> mostly with small 
> choke style chambers and i'm finding the general
> intonation on these
> mouthpieces to be 
> wonky when i'm finished. What could make these 
> pieces play more out
> of tune than my 
> old slant n.y. mouthpiece that has the same tip
> opening. Is it the
> small chamber, rails too 
> skinny . etc.I've noticed that Lakey mouthpieces
> have this same
> problem, they tend to be 
> wild and untamable. 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> Tom Gould
> 
> Massullo music
> Vancouver,Canada
> 
> Hi:

When you open these up, are you also making the facing
curve longer?

Bob



		
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> I hope you don't mind revisiting the intonation issue. I've been 
busy
> repairing  school 
> horns and have not had a chance to check my e-mail  for the past
> month.
> 

You do not need to rely on reading Email.  All the message posts are 
archived on the Yahoo Mouthpiece Work site including the recent 
intonation discussion.

Thanks for the replys guys

Yes I'm legthening the facings Bob. For the last year and a half I've been measuring vintage 
links and and any other mouthpieces that I find to play well . For fun I've been trying to 
duplicate their work on similar  chambered mouthpieces.

Keith, thanks for pointing to the info in the archives , I thought I had checked for the 
answer to my queston there already, but I probably misssed it.

Tom 









 In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, dan lunsford <bluesnote2000@y...> wrote:
> --- tomsolidgould <tngould@t...> wrote:
> > Hi Keith and all.
> > 
> > I hope you don't mind revisiting the intonation
> > issue. I've been busy
> > repairing  school 
> > horns and have not had a chance to check my e-mail 
> > for the past
> > month.
> > 
> > My question is this. I've been opening up old crappy
> >  mouthpieces ,
> > mostly with small 
> > choke style chambers and i'm finding the general
> > intonation on these
> > mouthpieces to be 
> > wonky when i'm finished. What could make these 
> > pieces play more out
> > of tune than my 
> > old slant n.y. mouthpiece that has the same tip
> > opening. Is it the
> > small chamber, rails too 
> > skinny . etc.I've noticed that Lakey mouthpieces
> > have this same
> > problem, they tend to be 
> > wild and untamable. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance, 
> > 
> > Tom Gould
> > 
> > Massullo music
> > Vancouver,Canada
> > 
> > Hi:
> 
> When you open these up, are you also making the facing
> curve longer?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
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