--- Keith Ley <keith_ley@...> wrote:
> From: "Keith Ley" <keith_ley@...>
> To: kwbradbury@...
> Subject: Babbitt Glass Gauges
> Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 13:27:06 +0000
> 
> Mojo,
>   I recently inquired to Babbitt about getting a glass gauge and got this
> 
> reply;
> 
> We have glass gauges. They are $20.00 each plus S/H. There are 3 glass 
> gauges 1.) mm end grad. 2.) mm set back, & 3.) 1/32" grad.
> 
> Send a check or M.O. (sorry no credit cards) with the total plus $7.00
> S/H 
> to jj Babbitt Co., PO Box 1264, 2201 Industrial Pkwy, Elkhart, IN 46516.
> 
> Please include your name & address.
> 
> 
> It would appear prices have gone up especially on S&H  but my question is
> 
> which of these do I want?? I'm thinking I might as well get the 1/32''
> grad 
> which I'm guessing is the standard but what is the difference between the
> mm 
> end grad. and the mm set back?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Keith
> 

I think the mm grads are more standard, even in the US.

With the scale starting on the edge, you have the option of lining up the
scale with the tip by using some kind of "stop" like a table edge.  With
the set back style you must line it up by eye.

With the set back, there is more length near the tip to rest a feeler gauge
on.  Reading a low number, like a 2, on an edge zero gauge would be a
little more floppy, but you have one hand on the feeler anyway.

Its not that big of a deal.  If we only had one choice we would get along
fine.  I have 2 set back gauges.  I'll probably get an edge one for the
hands-on experiance.


	
		
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--- Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
> 
> --- Keith Ley <keith_ley@...> wrote:
> > From: "Keith Ley" <keith_ley@...>
> > To: kwbradbury@...
> > Subject: Babbitt Glass Gauges
> > Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 13:27:06 +0000
> > 
> > Mojo,
> >   I recently inquired to Babbitt about getting a
> glass gauge and got this
> > 
> > reply;
> > 
> > We have glass gauges. They are $20.00 each plus
> S/H. There are 3 glass 
> > gauges 1.) mm end grad. 2.) mm set back, & 3.)
> 1/32" grad.
> > 
> > Send a check or M.O. (sorry no credit cards) with
> the total plus $7.00
> > S/H 
> > to jj Babbitt Co., PO Box 1264, 2201 Industrial
> Pkwy, Elkhart, IN 46516.
> > 
> > Please include your name & address.
> > 
> > 
> > It would appear prices have gone up especially on
> S&H  but my question is
> > 
> > which of these do I want?? I'm thinking I might as
> well get the 1/32''
> > grad 
> > which I'm guessing is the standard but what is the
> difference between the
> > mm 
> > end grad. and the mm set back?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> 
> I think the mm grads are more standard, even in the
> US.
> 
> With the scale starting on the edge, you have the
> option of lining up the
> scale with the tip by using some kind of "stop" like
> a table edge.  With
> the set back style you must line it up by eye.
> 
> With the set back, there is more length near the tip
> to rest a feeler gauge
> on.  Reading a low number, like a 2, on an edge zero
> gauge would be a
> little more floppy, but you have one hand on the
> feeler anyway.
> 
> Its not that big of a deal.  If we only had one
> choice we would get along
> fine.  I have 2 set back gauges.  I'll probably get
> an edge one for the
> hands-on experiance.
> 
> 
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Do you know what the range in measurement is?  Is this
like the Morgan?

Thanks,

BK



	
		
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--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, dan lunsford 
<bluesnote2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> Do you know what the range in measurement is?  Is this
> like the Morgan?
> 

I'm not sure what you are asking here.  I think Morgan uses the Erick 
Brand system which is mm*2.

I prefer to use the mm gauge with 0 setback, that is, the 0 mark on the edge of the gauge.  This way 
it is very easy to place the glass gauge on the table of the mouthpiece, and holding the table 
perpendicular to the edge of the workbench, push the gauge and tip against the vertical edge of the 
workbench to align them... and thus achieve a repeatable placement of the gauge, with fast and easy 
alignment while working.  I spend a lot of time measuring and measuring again while I work.

 

MM's (or half mm's) is the standard of comparison in the Eric Brand system and others, and is used
 by most refacers.  It is simple to convert from the half mm to mm, a divide by two... that is, a facing 
length of "50" in the E. Brand system is 25 mm.  32nd requires a calculator.  50 divided by 2 is mm's, 
then divide that by 25.4 to convert to inches.  Then multiply that by 32...well, you get my drift.

 

Paul

Keith Bradbury wrote:

>--- Keith Ley <keith_ley@...> wrote:
>  
>
>>From: "Keith Ley" <keith_ley@...>
>>To: kwbradbury@...
>>Subject: Babbitt Glass Gauges
>>Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 13:27:06 +0000
>>
>>Mojo,
>>  I recently inquired to Babbitt about getting a glass gauge and got this
>>
>>reply;
>>
>>We have glass gauges. They are $20.00 each plus S/H. There are 3 glass 
>>gauges 1.) mm end grad. 2.) mm set back, & 3.) 1/32" grad.
>>
>>Send a check or M.O. (sorry no credit cards) with the total plus $7.00
>>S/H 
>>to jj Babbitt Co., PO Box 1264, 2201 Industrial Pkwy, Elkhart, IN 46516.
>>
>>Please include your name & address.
>>
>>
>>It would appear prices have gone up especially on S&H  but my question is
>>
>>which of these do I want?? I'm thinking I might as well get the 1/32''
>>grad 
>>which I'm guessing is the standard but what is the difference between the
>>mm 
>>end grad. and the mm set back?
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I think the mm grads are more standard, even in the US.
>
>With the scale starting on the edge, you have the option of lining up the
>scale with the tip by using some kind of "stop" like a table edge.  With
>the set back style you must line it up by eye.
>
>With the set back, there is more length near the tip to rest a feeler gauge
>on.  Reading a low number, like a 2, on an edge zero gauge would be a
>little more floppy, but you have one hand on the feeler anyway.
>
>Its not that big of a deal.  If we only had one choice we would get along
>fine.  I have 2 set back gauges.  I'll probably get an edge one for the
>hands-on experiance.
>
>
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--- Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, dan lunsford 
> <bluesnote2000@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Do you know what the range in measurement is?  Is
> this
> > like the Morgan?
> > 
> 
> I'm not sure what you are asking here.  I think
> Morgan uses the Erick 
> Brand system which is mm*2.
> 
> Hi:

OK  I could use something bigger than the 280mm the
Morgan goes up to.  Also, thanks for the input on the
Link tenor, I will check the facing curve again.

BK 



	
		
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The Babbitt gages I have go up to 70 = 35mm.

--- Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
> The Babbitt gages I have go up to 70 = 35mm.
> 
> 
Hi:

OK By the way, did some adjusting on the Link 8*, I
found the facing curve off a little up towards the top
and it really made a difference.  WAY better.

Thanks much,

Bob


	
		
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