Hi:

Does anyone have a set of meaurements, (morgan tools) for a good 
Soloist G  rubber soprano mouthpiece?  Also for a D, and E?

I am still trying to figure out the chart from msg. 1453.

Thanks,

BK 

Who knows WHAT the measurements should be from Selmer? 

A good facing length is 18-19 mm.

.0015"    18 mm
.0010      13 mm

Tip opening  D = .051", E = .053", F = .057", G = .061" 

This is what they SHOULD be... they all vary, facing lengths vary.

Paul


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> Soloist G  rubber soprano mouthpiece?  Also for a D, and E?
>
> I am still trying to figure out the chart from msg. 1453.
>
> Thanks,
>
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I would be happy to measure my Father's original Selmer F table stamp.  It is the piece Gerry played on all those classic ealry 70s Chuck Mangione records...
     As I remember it measured a bit more like a G than F...
 
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Way to drop a name on us Adam.  Glad to have you aboard!

I snagged a chart off of the web a while back that listed the tip openings
and facing lengths for all the Selmer MPs.  Like Paul says, they can vary
so much the chart is just a guide.

I'll see if I can work something up for these.

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I measured a S80 C* just this afternoon... one side rail (back onto the 
table actually) was 23.5 mm with the .0015" feeler, the other side was 
17 mm.  After several sheets of cutting paper, I got the table flat.  I 
measured a S90 180 facing ALTO a few weeks ago, with a 16 mm facing 
length, and a ridiculously small tip opening.

With Selmers, I commonly see warped tables and facings, and out of spec 
tip openings.  No wonder players complain that you have to try more than 
a few to "find a good one".

I do not see why that fine company tolerates that.

Paul

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>
> I snagged a chart off of the web a while back that listed the tip openings
> and facing lengths for all the Selmer MPs.  Like Paul says, they can vary
> so much the chart is just a guide.
>
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--- Paul Coats <tenorman@...> wrote:
> I measured a S80 C* just this afternoon... one side
> rail (back onto the 
> table actually) was 23.5 mm with the .0015" feeler,
> the other side was 
> 17 mm.  After several sheets of cutting paper, I got
> the table flat.  I 
> measured a S90 180 facing ALTO a few weeks ago, with
> a 16 mm facing 
> length, and a ridiculously small tip opening.
> 
> With Selmers, I commonly see warped tables and
> facings, and out of spec 
> tip openings.  No wonder players complain that you
> have to try more than 
> a few to "find a good one".
> 
> I do not see why that fine company tolerates that.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Keith Bradbury wrote:
> 
> > Way to drop a name on us Adam.  Glad to have you
> aboard!
> >
> > I snagged a chart off of the web a while back that
> listed the tip openings
> > and facing lengths for all the Selmer MPs.  Like
> Paul says, they can vary
> > so much the chart is just a guide.
> >
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> Hi:
I have been refacing Selmers all week, as they totally
lack any quality control.  Dig this... the Selmer
Tenor, (a "C star") that never sounded good for me was
actually LEES THAN A B STAR in tip opening.  I worked
on it for about four hours, and now its a pretty good
"E", but really; these things are out there.

BK  


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--- Adam Niewood <aniewood@...> wrote:
> I would be happy to measure my Father's original
> Selmer F table stamp.  It is the piece Gerry played
> on all those classic ealry 70s Chuck Mangione
> records...
>      As I remember it measured a bit more like a G
> than F...
>  
> Adam Niewood
> aniewood@...
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Hi:

That would be great.  I love Gerry.  I grew up in
ersey, and used to hear him play at Gulliver's and
took some lessons from him in the early 80's at the
Ramapo Jazz clinic.

Peace,

BK  

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The Selmer site has tip openings and facing lengths in mm:

http://www.selmer.fr/html/english/bec/bec.htm

I had posted this link in the Links area of the MPWork site a while 
back.

I uploaded a new file into the Files Methods area:

Sop Facing Curves Selmer.xls 
Sop Sax facing curve suggestions for Selmer D, E, and G 

--- Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@...> wrote:
> I uploaded a new file into the Files Methods area:
> 
> Sop Facing Curves Selmer.xls 
> Sop Sax facing curve suggestions for Selmer D, E,
> and G 
> 
> Hi:

Thanks, I will definitely check it out.

BK


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