Mouthpiece Work / Feeler gauge check
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Feeler gauge check
Some long-winded thoughts: I have been periodically checking my feeler guage thicknesses with my digital calipers. I try to check them in the region used during facing work. I have not ben real satisfied with doing this since the numbers vary by 0 to +/-.001" each time I do this. I do not think the feelers are changing, just my ability to measure them was not good. The problem is, for my work, this inconsistency can be enough effect what I do to a piece. I have some gage blocks I use to check my calipers. It checks out good at small readings but reads low by .001" at at higher readings (~.100). Another area of concern is wear on the caliper jaws. When you close them and electronically zero them, the measurement edges may not be completly touching due to wear. I've pulled some strips of fine sandpaper though the jaws to help correct some of this wear effect. So, I decided it was time to grab another common tool that is right for the job. I just got a micrometer! It zeros nice and checks out good on the gage blocks. It should be more linear than the digital calipers I had been using since the micrometer uses a precision screw. The calipers probably have a LVDT in them that may not be real linear. Plus it rounds to .0005". The micrometer at least shows you where you fall between the lines. Another difference is that the standard micrometer contact area is a ~3/16" diameter flat end. The calipers have a ~1/32" wide edge. The edge may find low spots on the feelers that the micrometer misses. I dont think this is a big deal, but it could be going on. This micrometer also has a ratchet on the screw so you apply the same force when making a measurement. On the calipers, you can get different readings depending on how hard you clamp on the feelers. So I finally measured all my feelers again with the micrometer. I did it a couple of times and I got much more consistent results than with my calipers. I'll check them again a week or so, but I expect the readings to stay the same. This level of detail is not real important to do good facing work. I've been getting good playing results for a couple years now. But there are enough variables that we can not measure real well (like baffle shapes) that I think it is a good practice to nail down the ones we can. Several little errors can add up to a significant problem. So I recommend you at least borrow a micrometer to check out your own feeler gauge set. Then mark on the feelers what the actual sizes are. Also enter the actual numbers into your calculations if you are making/plotting your own facing curves. I found that some small bumps and low spots went away...
FROM: zadignabla (ZADIGNABLA)
SUBJECT: Re: Feeler gauge check
I am new of this list and I hope to offer a present to every body suggesting a completely free source of very thin feeler guage: .02mm .05mm (.001" .002") It is possible to find these thin permalloy ribbon inside the bar code target put on goods of stores that are used in order of electromagnetically detecting theft. After selling, store attendant people procede to demagnetisation of the code target attached to the purchased goods and the demagnetized target still remain attached. It is not easy open the plastic case of the code target but using a good knife you can extract the feeler without damaging them. I have found it very usefull in determining the first point in the profile curve and in calibrating calipers or micrometers. My name is Manfredo Cavallini I am from Rome Italy. My web site is www.clarinet.it Best regards ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/