Mouthpiece Work / Where to "draw the line"
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Where to "draw the line"
First, I think you owe it to yourself to try a fine hand-faced mouthpiece (or 2). Then you will be able to draw your own line. You may kick yourself for not trying it sooner, or decide that it is not a big deal for you. I think too many players spend multi-$1000 on upgrading their intrument when a few $100 spent on mouthpieces is a better value.
FROM: realbootman (Bootman)
SUBJECT: Re: Where to "draw the line"
Never a truer word has been said! Later God Bless Bootman Richard Booth www.bootmanmusic.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...] Sent: Saturday, 18 October 2003 2:26 AM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Where to "draw the line" First, I think you owe it to yourself to try a fine hand-faced mouthpiece (or 2). Then you will be able to draw your own line. You may kick yourself for not trying it sooner, or decide that it is not a big deal for you. I think too many players spend multi-$1000 on upgrading their intrument when a few $100 spent on mouthpieces is a better value. Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FROM: thisisnotforgotten (thisisnotforgotten)
SUBJECT: Re: Where to "draw the line"
Thanks for your reply. Your professional opinion is well taken. I guess I will go for the plunge. I find it strange that I have never considered it before. I have had classical training, and they all said it was baised on ohmbechure(sp??) then reed. Noone ever said, try a new mouthpiece. I did'nt even concider it until I wanted to get a jazz style mouthpiece, then I opened up this whole saga. Is this the reason so many clarinetist sound so totally different?? I mean, when I play my clarinet with a recording of another, mine sounds good, but almost like a totally different instrument. Would it be too much to ask for reference's on low end, moderate, and best of the best mouth pieces? Or refere a link. I saw your link for a book, but it would not open. I play classical clarinet mostly, but like to jam DIxie land and jazz as well. THanks for your help. Cooper Cecil --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote: > First, I think you owe it to yourself to try a fine hand-faced > mouthpiece (or 2). Then you will be able to draw your own line. You > may kick yourself for not trying it sooner, or decide that it is not > a big deal for you. > > I think too many players spend multi-$1000 on upgrading their > intrument when a few $100 spent on mouthpieces is a better value.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Which book link would not open for you? You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For jazz, the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you have only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be more open so may need a softer reed. There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. Some are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could also look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a way to try them out. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
FROM: thisisnotforgotten (thisisnotforgotten)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
The last listing under literature would not open. I have been looking at Pamorico and Gigliani's. Would these be a good selection? Also, there is an O'brian on Ebay for sale, 1969, that the seller states is highly desireable. THanks, CC --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Keith Bradbury <kwbradbury@y...> wrote: > Which book link would not open for you? > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For jazz, > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you have > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be > more open so may need a softer reed. > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. Some > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could also > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a > way to try them out. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
The links I have to Bob Scarff's book are broken. His Email no longer works too. You can do a search for his book and get a hit on a retailer that still lists it. But the book is more sax oriented. For hand crafted clarinet mouthpieces, I would try Grabner's and Garrett's. I only know them by reputations. They are not "big business". If the O'Brian you have found is a crystal mouthpiece, they do have their nitch following. It is best not to explore crystal until you have tried a bunch of hard rubber pieces. Crystal (glass) is too fragile. You will always need a good backup piece if your primary piece is crystal.
FROM: thisisnotforgotten (thisisnotforgotten)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Thanks, I'll give them a try and let you know what I think. --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote: > The links I have to Bob Scarff's book are broken. His Email no > longer works too. You can do a search for his book and get a hit on > a retailer that still lists it. But the book is more sax oriented. > > For hand crafted clarinet mouthpieces, I would try Grabner's and > Garrett's. I only know them by reputations. They are not "big > business". > > If the O'Brian you have found is a crystal mouthpiece, they do have > their nitch following. It is best not to explore crystal until you > have tried a bunch of hard rubber pieces. Crystal (glass) is too > fragile. You will always need a good backup piece if your primary > piece is crystal.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Where to "draw the line"
There is no best, or whatever. And it all depends on what you really like, and more importantly, what allows you to get the job done with the least effort. It is uncomfortable, to say the least, trying to play in a big band with a classical mouthpiece. All those teachers that tell students, "Just use your C*'s, you can play jazz on anything if you are good enough." True, but it is a lot easier if you have the right equipment. I have enough hurdles, without forcing volume through a classical mouthpiece. On the other hand, it is very difficult to try to blend in the section with a loud rock and roll piece, too. You have to find the piece that lets you just play the music and forget the equipment. There is a very wide spectrum of tone colors in what is considered "jazz". Paul thisisnotforgotten wrote: > Thanks for your reply. Your professional opinion is well taken. I > guess I will go for the plunge. I find it strange that I have never > considered it before. I have had classical training, and they all > said it was baised on ohmbechure(sp??) then reed. Noone ever said, > try a new mouthpiece. I did'nt even concider it until I wanted to > get a jazz style mouthpiece, then I opened up this whole saga. Is > this the reason so many clarinetist sound so totally different?? > I mean, when I play my clarinet with a recording of another, mine > sounds good, but almost like a totally different instrument. > > Would it be too much to ask for reference's on low end, moderate, > and best of the best mouth pieces? Or refere a link. I saw your link > for a book, but it would not open. I play classical clarinet mostly, > but like to jam DIxie land and jazz as well. THanks for your help. > Cooper Cecil > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Bradbury" > <kwbradbury@y...> wrote: > > First, I think you owe it to yourself to try a fine hand-faced > > mouthpiece (or 2). Then you will be able to draw your own line. > You > > may kick yourself for not trying it sooner, or decide that it is > not > > a big deal for you. > > > > I think too many players spend multi-$1000 on upgrading their > > intrument when a few $100 spent on mouthpieces is a better value. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%9395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05032198:HM/A24963/R=0/SIGo885gmo/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?campU6&lineid614674&prop=egroupweb&pos=HM> > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like the Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a clarinet mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got more meat on 'em." Paul Keith Bradbury wrote: > Which book link would not open for you? > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For jazz, > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you > have > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be > more open so may need a softer reed. > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. Some > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could also > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a > way to try them out. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
FROM: realbootman (Bootman)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
I have a Meyer 7 Long for clarinet here, it is a great mpc. I have had it for years. Later God Bless Bootman Richard Booth www.bootmanmusic.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Coats [mailto:tenorman@...] Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2003 7:40 AM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like the Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a clarinet mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got more meat on 'em." Paul Keith Bradbury wrote: Which book link would not open for you? You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For jazz, the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you have only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be more open so may need a softer reed. There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. Some are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could also look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a way to try them out. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05 032198:HM/A54452/R=0/SIGtueh86m/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default?mqs o`178324&partid@52765> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A54452/rand2369141> Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
FROM: petersax999 (Peter Rawlings)
SUBJECT: facing lengths? Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Bootman, Can you provide the specs for the facing curve? Or at least, the facing length and tip opening? For that matter, can anyone else provide a "range" of facing lengths for clarinet, similar to what Paul provided a few weeks ago? (for alto and tenor). What is a typical medium facing length for clarinet? I've recently picked up the clarinet again - (the bandleader of the Fantasy Big Band here in Milford, mass insists on acquiring charts that call for clarinet doubles! :-), and with my newly-acquired interest in mouthpiece facing work, I'm curious about the mouthpieces I'm using, and what a typical facing lenght is. Thanks all, Peter --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Bootman <rbooth@b...> wrote: > I have a Meyer 7 Long for clarinet here, it is a great mpc. I have had > it for years. > > Later > God Bless > Bootman > Richard Booth > www.bootmanmusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Coats [mailto:tenorman@t...] > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2003 7:40 AM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like the > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a clarinet > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got more > meat on 'em." > > Paul > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For > jazz, > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you > have > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be > more open so may need a softer reed. > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. > Some > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could > also > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a > way to try them out. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S 05 > 032198:HM/A54452/R=0/SIGtueh86m/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default? mqs > o`178324&partid@52765> click here > > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l? M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egrou > pmail/S=:HM/A54452/rand2369141> > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Clarinet Mouthpiece Facings
This is an area I have only partially explored. While I have found a radial arc to be the best basic sax mouthpiece facing, with only some minor variations fo special needs, I have observed more variation in good clarinet facings. I think with a sax, there are more baffle and chamber designs to choose from to assist the player. With clarinet, the good choices have more subtle differences. Some clarinet facing curves are a radial arc, but not most of them. Many do gradually flatten at the tip. Some call this shape parabolic, but that is the concept more than the exact mathematical shape. Now here's a kicker. Some of the best clarinet pieces I have played have 3 flat sections. The table, the middle, and the tip. There is a curved transition between each section. I think this is called a "German" facing curve. They offer additional resistance without going to short facings and open tips. There is probaly some reason why this curve is good as compared to the different registers of the clarinet. For some typical facing lengths and tip openings, go take a look at Ed Pillinger's site.
FROM: realbootman (Bootman)
SUBJECT: Re: facing lengths? Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
For which mpc do you need the measurements? Later God Bless Bootman Richard Booth www.bootmanmusic.com -----Original Message----- From: Peter Rawlings [mailto:Peter.Rawlings@...] Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2003 9:40 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] facing lengths? Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations Bootman, Can you provide the specs for the facing curve? Or at least, the facing length and tip opening? For that matter, can anyone else provide a "range" of facing lengths for clarinet, similar to what Paul provided a few weeks ago? (for alto and tenor). What is a typical medium facing length for clarinet? I've recently picked up the clarinet again - (the bandleader of the Fantasy Big Band here in Milford, mass insists on acquiring charts that call for clarinet doubles! :-), and with my newly-acquired interest in mouthpiece facing work, I'm curious about the mouthpieces I'm using, and what a typical facing lenght is. Thanks all, Peter --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Bootman <rbooth@b...> wrote: > I have a Meyer 7 Long for clarinet here, it is a great mpc. I have had > it for years. > > Later > God Bless > Bootman > Richard Booth > www.bootmanmusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Coats [mailto:tenorman@t...] > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2003 7:40 AM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like the > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a clarinet > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got more > meat on 'em." > > Paul > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For > jazz, > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you > have > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be > more open so may need a softer reed. > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. > Some > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could > also > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a > way to try them out. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S 05 > 032198:HM/A54452/R=0/SIGtueh86m/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default? mqs > o`178324&partid@52765> click here > > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l? M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egrou > pmail/S=:HM/A54452/rand2369141> > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Facings
Peter and Keith, I got this from Tom Ridenour (who designed one of the Leblanc clarinets, and has his own mouthpiece line) about clarinet facings some time back: Tom: On the Yahoo Mouthpiece Workgroup, we were discussing that some clarinet facings are not a smooth arc of a circle, but rather, a series of flats blended together, one at the "break", a long flat, and another flat angle or a curve near the tip. > >Any insight or observations into this? > Paul Yes, I've thought about this quite a bit and I use these concepts in my own mouthpiece work. Curves increase resistance. The closer you get to a straight line the greater the resistance reduction. If I find a mouthpiece measures well but still if stuffy or resistant I begin by eliminating all the sharp breaks I can see; remember the sharp breaks are compressed curves, or curves par excellence, and therefore, create LOTS of resistance. Once I've blended out the sharp breaks (if any) I then preceed to flaten the curve of the mouthpiece where the reed actually leaves the facing in performance. Making the curve less extreme between two points decreases resistance considerably. I like decreasing resistance that way because increasing window size to reduce resistance sometimes causes the tone to become spread and uncentered. Making subtle adjustments in the curve of the facing to reduce resistance, taking out sharp breaks and moderating the arcs of curves can accomplish the resistance reduction with a minimal loss of tonal center or definition in the shape. That's my basic take on the matter. best regards Tom Keith Bradbury wrote: > This is an area I have only partially explored. While I have found a > radial arc to be the best basic sax mouthpiece facing, with only some > minor variations fo special needs, I have observed more variation in > good clarinet facings. > > I think with a sax, there are more baffle and chamber designs to > choose from to assist the player. With clarinet, the good choices > have more subtle differences. > > Some clarinet facing curves are a radial arc, but not most of them. > Many do gradually flatten at the tip. Some call this shape > parabolic, but that is the concept more than the exact mathematical > shape. > > Now here's a kicker. Some of the best clarinet pieces I have played > have 3 flat sections. The table, the middle, and the tip. There is > a curved transition between each section. I think this is called > a "German" facing curve. They offer additional resistance without > going to short facings and open tips. There is probaly some reason > why this curve is good as compared to the different registers of the > clarinet. > > For some typical facing lengths and tip openings, go take a look at > Ed Pillinger's site. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M4081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05032198:HM/A06996/R=0/SIGp5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code0509&media=atkins> > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
FROM: thisisnotforgotten (thisisnotforgotten)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Sounds PHHAAT man! Ha, where would I find a Meyer mouthpiece for clarinet? I did'nt see any links on this sight. I'll give it try. Thanks for the info. RC --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like the > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a clarinet > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got more > meat on 'em." > > Paul > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For jazz, > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you > > have > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. Some > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could also > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a > > way to try them out. > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
FROM: petersax999 (Rawlings, Peter)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Woodwind & Brasswind (www.wwbw.com) sells 'em -----Original Message----- From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@...] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:59 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations Sounds PHHAAT man! Ha, where would I find a Meyer mouthpiece for clarinet? I did'nt see any links on this sight. I'll give it try. Thanks for the info. RC --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like the > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a clarinet > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got more > meat on 'em." > > Paul > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For jazz, > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you > > have > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. Some > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could also > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a > > way to try them out. > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
I had a vintage Meyer clarinet MP that I sold on eBay a while back. I did not think it was anything special. My 5JB I was playing at the time was much better. The Meyer did not fetch a big price either. Anyone have a Berg Larson clarinet piece??? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
FROM: thisisnotforgotten (thisisnotforgotten)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
I'll try again. I went to their site and typed in Meyer's, and it had zero response. THanks again --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Rawlings, Peter" <Peter.Rawlings@a...> wrote: > Woodwind & Brasswind (www.wwbw.com) sells 'em > > -----Original Message----- > From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@y...] > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:59 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations > > > Sounds PHHAAT man! Ha, where would I find a Meyer mouthpiece for > clarinet? I did'nt see any links on this sight. I'll give it try. > Thanks for the info. RC > > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> > wrote: > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like > the > > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a > clarinet > > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got > more > > meat on 'em." > > > > Paul > > > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like > Sneezy.com. > > > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are > fairly > > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. > For jazz, > > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. > If you > > > have > > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They > will be > > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet > pieces. Some > > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You > could also > > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling > pieces as a > > > way to try them out. > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S > 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul > t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see > > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service > > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the > Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FROM: petersax999 (Rawlings, Peter)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
go to the woodwind section, then click on mouthpieces, then clarinet (or maybe it's Bb Clarinet). All the brands are listed alphabetically in the left-hand column, so you can just scroll down to Meyer, and click on it. They have one Meyer model listed. (I was just looking the other day). Peter -----Original Message----- From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@...] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:39 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations I'll try again. I went to their site and typed in Meyer's, and it had zero response. THanks again --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Rawlings, Peter" <Peter.Rawlings@a...> wrote: > Woodwind & Brasswind (www.wwbw.com) sells 'em > > -----Original Message----- > From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@y...] > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:59 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations > > > Sounds PHHAAT man! Ha, where would I find a Meyer mouthpiece for > clarinet? I did'nt see any links on this sight. I'll give it try. > Thanks for the info. RC > > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> > wrote: > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like > the > > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a > clarinet > > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got > more > > meat on 'em." > > > > Paul > > > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like > Sneezy.com. > > > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are > fairly > > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. > For jazz, > > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. > If you > > > have > > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They > will be > > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet > pieces. Some > > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You > could also > > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling > pieces as a > > > way to try them out. > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S > 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul > t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see > > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service > > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the > Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FROM: realbootman (Bootman)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Facings
I have just measured 2 Ridenour 36 mpcs here, there is a great difference between 2 of the same size mpc. Ridenour 36 0.0015 37 - 34 0.005 29 - 28 0.010 22 - 24 0.015 20 - 20 0.020 16 - 15 0.025 12 - 13 0.030 10 - 10 0.036 6 - 8 tip 0.41 - 0.042 Later God Bless Bootman Richard Booth www.bootmanmusic.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Coats [mailto:tenorman@...] Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2003 11:36 PM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Clarinet Mouthpiece Facings Peter and Keith, I got this from Tom Ridenour (who designed one of the Leblanc clarinets, and has his own mouthpiece line) about clarinet facings some time back: Tom: On the Yahoo Mouthpiece Workgroup, we were discussing that some clarinet facings are not a smooth arc of a circle, but rather, a series of flats blended together, one at the "break", a long flat, and another flat angle or a curve near the tip. > >Any insight or observations into this? > Paul Yes, I've thought about this quite a bit and I use these concepts in my own mouthpiece work. Curves increase resistance. The closer you get to a straight line the greater the resistance reduction. If I find a mouthpiece measures well but still if stuffy or resistant I begin by eliminating all the sharp breaks I can see; remember the sharp breaks are compressed curves, or curves par excellence, and therefore, create LOTS of resistance. Once I've blended out the sharp breaks (if any) I then preceed to flaten the curve of the mouthpiece where the reed actually leaves the facing in performance. Making the curve less extreme between two points decreases resistance considerably. I like decreasing resistance that way because increasing window size to reduce resistance sometimes causes the tone to become spread and uncentered. Making subtle adjustments in the curve of the facing to reduce resistance, taking out sharp breaks and moderating the arcs of curves can accomplish the resi stance reduction with a minimal loss of tonal center or definition in the shape. That's my basic take on the matter. best regards Tom Keith Bradbury wrote: This is an area I have only partially explored. While I have found a radial arc to be the best basic sax mouthpiece facing, with only some minor variations fo special needs, I have observed more variation in good clarinet facings. I think with a sax, there are more baffle and chamber designs to choose from to assist the player. With clarinet, the good choices have more subtle differences. Some clarinet facing curves are a radial arc, but not most of them. Many do gradually flatten at the tip. Some call this shape parabolic, but that is the concept more than the exact mathematical shape. Now here's a kicker. Some of the best clarinet pieces I have played have 3 flat sections. The table, the middle, and the tip. There is a curved transition between each section. I think this is called a "German" facing curve. They offer additional resistance without going to short facings and open tips. There is probaly some reason why this curve is good as compared to the different registers of the clarinet. For some typical facing lengths and tip openings, go take a look at Ed Pillinger's site. Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M4081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05 032198:HM/A54016/R=0/SIGpv1u2ju/*http:/www.ediets.com/start.cfm?co de0529&media=atkins> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M4081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A54016/randt4801943> Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
FROM: realbootman (Bootman)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
I have 2 LC#3 here, one refaced by JVW and one standard unaltered model. I will measure the Meyer 7L. No Berg Clar mpcs. I have a 5JB here that isn't particularly wonderful, it is much softer, has less projection than the LC#3's I favour. Later God Bless Bootman Richard Booth www.bootmanmusic.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 6:20 AM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations I had a vintage Meyer clarinet MP that I sold on eBay a while back. I did not think it was anything special. My 5JB I was playing at the time was much better. The Meyer did not fetch a big price either. Anyone have a Berg Larson clarinet piece??? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FROM: realbootman (Bootman)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Sometimes it is better to ring them directly. Later God Bless Bootman Richard Booth www.bootmanmusic.com -----Original Message----- From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@...] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 6:39 AM To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations I'll try again. I went to their site and typed in Meyer's, and it had zero response. THanks again --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Rawlings, Peter" <Peter.Rawlings@a...> wrote: > Woodwind & Brasswind (www.wwbw.com) sells 'em > > -----Original Message----- > From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@y...] > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:59 PM > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations > > > Sounds PHHAAT man! Ha, where would I find a Meyer mouthpiece for > clarinet? I did'nt see any links on this sight. I'll give it try. > Thanks for the info. RC > > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> > wrote: > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like > the > > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a > clarinet > > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got > more > > meat on 'em." > > > > Paul > > > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like > Sneezy.com. > > > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are > fairly > > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. > For jazz, > > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. > If you > > > have > > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They > will be > > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet > pieces. Some > > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You > could also > > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling > pieces as a > > > way to try them out. > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S > 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul > t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see > > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service > > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the > Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FROM: thisisnotforgotten (thisisnotforgotten)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Okay. I have searched the net and found a few Meyers mpc's. The only #6 I found was for a SAX. Are you saying that the Dixieland Clarinetists are playing with the #6 SAX mouth piece with a Saprano Sax REED as well? Or is there a #6 Meyers Clarinet Mpc? Thanks --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like the > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a clarinet > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got more > meat on 'em." > > Paul > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like Sneezy.com. > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are fairly > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. For jazz, > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. If you > > have > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They will be > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet pieces. Some > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You could also > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling pieces as a > > way to try them out. > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
FROM: reidalf (Alf Reid (AST VDB))
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Yes I have a Berg Larsen clarinet piece. Prefer Vandoren.
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Sent: 23 October 2003 22:20
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Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
I had a vintage Meyer clarinet MP that I sold on eBay a while back. I did
not think it was anything special. My 5JB I was playing at the time was
much better. The Meyer did not fetch a big price either.
Anyone have a Berg Larson clarinet piece???
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FROM: dburckhardt (David Burckhardt)
SUBJECT: RE : [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Hi,
I also play a Vando 5JB. I tried both Berg and Meyer as well as Pomarico a
couple of years ago. I chose the 5JB cause it's intonation was better than
Berg and Meyer, and projection better than Pomarico. I also have a Beechler
8L which has a lot of projection but a tricky intonation (actually, very
flexible and uncentered pitch), and a more "ethnic-like" tone.
db
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Alf Reid (AST VDB) [mailto:alf.reid@...]
Envoyé : vendredi, 24. octobre 2003 09:59
À : MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Objet : RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Yes I have a Berg Larsen clarinet piece. Prefer Vandoren.
......
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
>Yes I have a Berg Larsen clarinet piece. How is it marked? I have a local player here looking for one, but he wanted one marked 100/2. I think he just doesn't understand the convention and thinks there is a clarinet piece that will match his tenor. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
"Are you saying that the Dixieland Clarinetists are playing with the #6 SAX mouth piece with a Saprano Sax REED as well? Or is there a #6 Meyers Clarinet Mpc?" No, what I am saying is some of the N.O. Dixieland players are playing Meyer Clarinet with #6 tip opening and Soprano Sax reeds. Don't think they have made these for some years. I'll check with Rocky at Babbit. Paul thisisnotforgotten wrote: > Okay. I have searched the net and found a few Meyers mpc's. The only > #6 I found was for a SAX. Are you saying that the Dixieland > Clarinetists are playing with the #6 SAX mouth piece with a Saprano > Sax REED as well? Or is there a #6 Meyers Clarinet Mpc? Thanks > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> > wrote: > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like > the > > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a > clarinet > > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got > more > > meat on 'em." > > > > Paul > > > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like > Sneezy.com. > > > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These are > fairly > > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. > For jazz, > > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. > If you > > > have > > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. They > will be > > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet > pieces. Some > > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You > could also > > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling > pieces as a > > > way to try them out. > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S > 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul > t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see > > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service > > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M4081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05032198:HM/A06996/R=0/SIGp5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code0509&media=atkins> > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Meyer mouthpieces are manufactured by J. J. Babbit, who also produce Otto Link, Guy Hawkins, Babbit, and Wolfe Tayne. (As a matter of interest, Wolfe Tannenbaum, aka Wolfe Tayne, is BARI Associates) They no longer list Meyer clarinet. http://www.jjbabbitt.com/ I will see what info I can find in my archives on tip opening, etc. Paul thisisnotforgotten wrote: > I'll try again. I went to their site and typed in Meyer's, and it had > zero response. THanks again > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Rawlings, Peter" > <Peter.Rawlings@a...> wrote: > > Woodwind & Brasswind (www.wwbw.com) sells 'em > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@y...] > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:59 PM > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations > > > > > > Sounds PHHAAT man! Ha, where would I find a Meyer mouthpiece for > > clarinet? I did'nt see any links on this sight. I'll give it try. > > Thanks for the info. RC > > > > > > > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> > > wrote: > > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like > > the > > > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a > > clarinet > > > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play > > > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got > > more > > > meat on 'em." > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Keith Bradbury wrote: > > > > > > > Which book link would not open for you? > > > > > > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like > > Sneezy.com. > > > > > > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These > are > > fairly > > > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. > > For jazz, > > > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. > > If you > > > > have > > > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. > They > > will be > > > > more open so may need a softer reed. > > > > > > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet > > pieces. Some > > > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You > > could also > > > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling > > pieces as a > > > > way to try them out. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S > > > 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul > > t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork > to > > see > > > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to > > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service > > > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > see the > > Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M4081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egroupweb/S05032198:HM/A32163/R=0/SIGn0nglqg/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code0510&media=zone> > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
Information just in from Rocky Giglio at J. J. Babbit: "The Meyer Clarinet mouthpiece is still offered. We still make 4M through 10M. 4M=.045" tip the 10M=.071" tip. Best Wishes, Rocky" Hey, straight from the Main Man! What more can you ask? Paul Paul Coats wrote: > Meyer mouthpieces are manufactured by J. J. Babbit, who also produce > Otto Link, Guy Hawkins, Babbit, and Wolfe Tayne. (As a matter of > interest, Wolfe Tannenbaum, aka Wolfe Tayne, is BARI Associates) > > They no longer list Meyer clarinet. > > http://www.jjbabbitt.com/ > > I will see what info I can find in my archives on tip opening, etc. > > Paul > > thisisnotforgotten wrote: > >> I'll try again. I went to their site and typed in Meyer's, and it had >> zero response. THanks again >> >> >> --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Rawlings, Peter" >> <Peter.Rawlings@a...> wrote: >> > Woodwind & Brasswind (www.wwbw.com) sells 'em >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: thisisnotforgotten [mailto:thisisnotforgotten@y...] >> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:59 PM >> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations >> > >> > >> > Sounds PHHAAT man! Ha, where would I find a Meyer mouthpiece for >> > clarinet? I did'nt see any links on this sight. I'll give it try. >> > Thanks for the info. RC >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> >> > wrote: >> > > Amazingly, for Dixieland clarinet, the New Orleans musicians like >> > the >> > > Meyer 6 (I had to go check, did not even realized Meyer made a >> > clarinet >> > > mouthpiece, and certainly had never before seen clarinetists play >> > > Meyer), and some prefer to use soprano sax reeds "'cause day got >> > more >> > > meat on 'em." >> > > >> > > Paul >> > > >> > > Keith Bradbury wrote: >> > > >> > > > Which book link would not open for you? >> > > > >> > > > You may get some different opinions on a clarinet forum like >> > Sneezy.com. >> > > > >> > > > A good staple for clarinet mouthpieces are Vandorens. These >> are >> > fairly >> > > > inexpensive factory made pieces that have some hand finishing. >> > For jazz, >> > > > the 5JB is nice. The B45/B46 are good for all-around playing. >> > If you >> > > > have >> > > > only been playing stock mouthpiece, these may delight you. >> They >> > will be >> > > > more open so may need a softer reed. >> > > > >> > > > There are a number of links to sites with hand made clarinet >> > pieces. Some >> > > > are available through the Woodwind & Brasswind for trials. You >> > could also >> > > > look on eBay for used pieces and get into buying and selling >> > pieces as a >> > > > way to try them out. >> > > > >> > > > __________________________________ >> > > > Do you Yahoo!? >> > > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >> > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com >> > > > >> > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >> > > > ADVERTISEMENT >> > > > >> > >> <http://rd.yahoo.com/M%1812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S >> > >> 05032198:HM/A54451/R=0/SIGtfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Defaul >> > t?mqso`178323&partid@52765> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to >> > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> > > > >> > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork >> to >> > see >> > > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. >> > > > >> > > > To see and modify your groups, go to >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups >> > > > >> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >> > Service >> > > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. >> > >> > >> > >> > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to >> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to >> see the >> > Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. >> > >> > To see and modify your groups, go to >> http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups >> > >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> >> Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to >> MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com >> >> Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see >> the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. >> >> To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service >> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > Yahoo! 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FROM: reidalf (Alf Reid (AST VDB))
SUBJECT: Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
70 / 0 SMS . Which make sense for a clarinet mouthpiece. Funny enough this piece has a partial bullet where baffle
meets bore.
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From: Keith Bradbury [mailto:kwbradbury@...]
Sent: 24 October 2003 14:13
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Clarinet Mouthpiece Recommendations
>Yes I have a Berg Larsen clarinet piece.
How is it marked? I have a local player here looking for one, but he
wanted one marked 100/2. I think he just doesn't understand the convention
and thinks there is a clarinet piece that will match his tenor.
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