Mouthpiece Work / dumb question #346
FROM: spr1ng64 (Patrick)
SUBJECT: dumb question #346
I have been tinkering with an old Goldentone mpc and have the lay the way I want it. Now, the tip rail is very wide and I think I should file it from the window side towards the tip in order to keep the lay the same. Is this correct? I assume that after I do this i will have to build up the baffle and reshape it after this is all done? Thanks!
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: dumb question #346
Patrick wrote: > I have been tinkering with an old Goldentone mpc and have the lay the > > way I want it. Now, the tip rail is very wide and I think I should > file it from the window side towards the tip in order to keep the lay > the same. Is this correct? Yes. > > I assume that after I do this i will have to build up the baffle and > reshape it after this is all done? > Thanks! No, after increasing the tip opening, the tip rail becomes wider, and the baffle is closer to the plane of the table. You need to blend that back to the tip rail as it was before. Use a narrow file that tapers to a point. Hold the mouthpiece flat on the workbench, with the table side up. If you are right handed, hold it in your left hand, file in the right. Using the area of the file about 1/4" (6mm or so) back from the point, start at the centerline of the mouthpiece, and move the file in a small circular motion. At the same time work toward the sides. Position the file so that it is held at an angle to the mouthpiece slightly less than the angle of the tip rail. As you work back toward the throat, gradually make the angle less, so that it blends on back into the roof of the mouthpiece. You will probably not have to reshape more than about 1/4" of baffle. Once you have it shaped correctly, and the tip rail is like you want it, the baffle will have file marks. Wrap the file with some 600 grip silicon carbide paper, and smooth the baffle. Repeat with 800 grit. At this point, the mouthpiece will play alright, but the dull area on the baffle does not look "finished". I make a tool, which lasts for quite a while, as Santy Runyon showed me. Using a piece of 1/4" wood dowel, about 6" long, grind a flat on the dowel for about 1". On this flat, glue a piece of 1/16" cork. On the cork, glue a piece of chamois. This is your baffle polishing tool. Using a plastic polishing compound (or Flitz metal polish will work), such as Kit Scratch Out (available in automotive stores, for polishing plexiglass windshields and motorbike helmet face shields) polish the dull area. A few drops of water may help. Be careful to not touch the facing. With a soft cloth, by hand, polish the rest of the mouthpiece, except for the table and facing. Now, to put the finishing touch on the facing, turn a piece of silicon carbide paper grit side down. The paper backing will have enough silicon carbide dust to give a nice polish to the table. Two or three strokes on the table will give it a nice finish. One light stroke along the facing will put a nice finish there, too. Now, doesn't that look nice? Paul > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [click here] > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Link to Paul's articles from Home page of "Sax on the Web": http://www.saxontheweb.net or directly to Paul's articles at: http://www.saxontheweb.net/Coats/ Listen to Paul's MP3's at: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 and view photos.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: What to do with a wide tip rail
In addition to what Paul said: Evaluate the sharpness of the tip after you opened the piece. If you think it is too pointy (your judgement), make the tip rail thinner by filing the tip curve. This will change your facing since you are now moving your zero point. But this is often needed. You can then decide if you need to rework the facing some more. It pays to consider tip sharpness before you do you "final" facing work. On thinning the tip rail on the inside, there are a few ways to blend it into the baffle. I do not care for roll-over baffles, but that is one strategy. You can make a big one, little one, whatever. On low baffle pieces, I prefer a short baffle "shelf" that is about 1/4" from the tip, then it falls off. Many great vintage Links have this design. Some have roll-overs. On higher baffle pieces, I like a subtle "lake". Bergs have a short, deep lake. I like one that is about twice as long and more flat than a depression. JVW did this to my Quantum bari before I was into refacing. I've done a number since then and find it to be the way to go on high baffle pieces. Works great on Dukoff Ds, etc. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com