FROM: philbarone2002 (Phil Barone)
SUBJECT: Mouthpiece mold for sale
I'm selling my mold for the Classic model metal tenor mouthpiece along with
the original prototype and machined pin.  I probably have $4000 invested but
I'll take $800 for everything.  I also still have some blanks for same of
this model. Phil

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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Digest Number 219


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>       1. Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>            From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
>       2. Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>            From: "Mike Ruhl" <mikeruhl@...>
>       3. Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>            From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
>       4. RE: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>            From: "rbooth" <rbooth@...>
>       5. Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>            From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
>       6. Re: More questions
>            From: Paul Coats <tenorman@...>
>       7. Re: More questions
>            From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:02:43 -0700
>    From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
> Subject: Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
> Thanks again for the info Keith,
>
> Rather than fool around with that, I'll try and sell it on eBay.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Fred
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Keith Bradbury
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 4:49 AM
>   Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
>
>   One quicky test you can try is to put some temporary putty in the
chamber.
>   Play-Doh, Poster hanging putty, dental wax, etc.  This would tend to fix
>   the intonation but the high notes will most likely still play flat.
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>    Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:03:25 -0400
>    From: "Mike Ruhl" <mikeruhl@...>
> Subject: Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
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> >From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
> >Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
> >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:06:49 -0700
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> >In the meantime, am I the only one to have had bad experiences with Gary
of
> >"Sugal" fame?
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> Oh, please, let's not go there...
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>    Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:28:26 -0700
>    From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
> Subject: Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Well....your reply was mystifying.  As a neophyte in all this with mpcs, a
remark like yours makes me think I've been living in a vacuum.  Obviously
you have something to say about this subject.  Why don't you share it a
little with me so I too can be "one of the boys"?
>
> Fred
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mike Ruhl
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:03 PM
>   Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
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>   >From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
>   >Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
>   >Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>   >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:06:49 -0700
>   >
>   >In the meantime, am I the only one to have had bad experiences with
Gary of
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>   Oh, please, let's not go there...
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>    Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 07:38:33 +1000
>    From: "rbooth" <rbooth@...>
> Subject: RE: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
> It is a subject best left alone due to it being very murky waters
> indeed.
>
> Later
> God Bless
> Bootman
> Richard Booth
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Gruenebaum [mailto:fgruenebaum@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2003 7:28 AM
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Well....your reply was mystifying.  As a neophyte in all this with mpcs,
> a remark like yours makes me think I've been living in a vacuum.
> Obviously you have something to say about this subject.  Why don't you
> share it a little with me so I too can be "one of the boys"?
>
> Fred
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Mike Ruhl <mailto:mikeruhl@...>
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
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> >From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
> >Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
> >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:06:49 -0700
> >
> >In the meantime, am I the only one to have had bad experiences with
> Gary of
> >"Sugal" fame?
>
> Oh, please, let's not go there...
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>    Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:42:01 -0700
>    From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
> Subject: Re: Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
> Okey-dokey...."a word to the wise is sufficient"  and thanks...........
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: rbooth
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:38 PM
>   Subject: RE: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
>
>   It is a subject best left alone due to it being very murky waters
indeed.
>
>
>
>   Later
>
>   God Bless
>
>   Bootman
>
>   Richard Booth
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>   www.bootmanmusic.com
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Fred Gruenebaum [mailto:fgruenebaum@...]
>   Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2003 7:28 AM
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>
>
>
>   Hi Mike,
>
>
>
>   Well....your reply was mystifying.  As a neophyte in all this with mpcs,
a remark like yours makes me think I've been living in a vacuum.  Obviously
you have something to say about this subject.  Why don't you share it a
little with me so I too can be "one of the boys"?
>
>
>
>   Fred
>
>
>
>
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>     ----- Original Message ----- 
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>     From: Mike Ruhl
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>     To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
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>     Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:03 PM
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>     Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
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>
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>     >From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
>     >Reply-To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>     >To: <MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com>
>     >Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Mouthpiece plays "flat"
>     >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:06:49 -0700
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>     >In the meantime, am I the only one to have had bad experiences with
Gary of
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>     Oh, please, let's not go there...
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>    Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:25:12 -0500
>    From: Paul Coats <tenorman@...>
> Subject: Re: More questions
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>
>
> Fred Gruenebaum wrote:
>
> > Hi Keith, Thanks for the reply........ In talking to Paul C. he
> > recommends the Winslow over the Babbitt gauge...wonder why?
> >
> > Specifically, what I recommend is the whole Winslow kit, and that I
> > think the tip opening gauge (dial indicator in fixture) is superior to
> > the wand type tip gauge in other kits.
> >   I do have the list you are talking about.  What is a wand tip gauge,
> > and how does it work?  Are there measurements to be found somewhere
> > with the proper tolerances for mpcs? And what do you know about "curve
> > gauges"?  That is, is there a way to check the curve of the tip?  Or
> > have I been smokin' something?
> >
> > You may be referring to the glass gauge and feelers, which are used to
> > plot the curve of the facing.
> >   All this is very new to me, and at the same time exciting.  I am
> > beginning to see many similarities between the set-up between the
> > double reed and the single reed.  I can't wait to start experimenting
> > with some mpcs I have to see if I am able to turn them into something
> > I can use. Thanks again for your time, Fred
>
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> Message: 7
>    Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:34:04 -0700
>    From: "Fred Gruenebaum" <fgruenebaum@...>
> Subject: Re: More questions
>
> Thanks Paul.
>
> Here's one for you.  I called the telephone # that is listed on the manual
for Winslow.  I got a man who didn't want to talk, but took my name and
phone # and never called back (Winslow?).......more.  I got the new W/W &
Brass catalog today and there the Winslow kit is....for $195.  phew!  Do you
know anyone who has the mic and the glass gauge for sale?  Thatsa' lot of
gelt!  I have everything else.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Paul Coats
>   To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:25 PM
>   Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] More questions
>
>
>
>   Fred Gruenebaum wrote:
>
>     Hi Keith, Thanks for the reply........ In talking to Paul C. he
recommends the Winslow over the Babbitt gauge...wonder why?
>     Specifically, what I recommend is the whole Winslow kit, and that I
think the tip opening gauge (dial indicator in fixture) is superior to the
wand type tip gauge in other kits.
>       I do have the list you are talking about.  What is a wand tip gauge,
and how does it work?  Are there measurements to be found somewhere with the
proper tolerances for mpcs? And what do you know about "curve gauges"?  That
is, is there a way to check the curve of the tip?  Or have I been smokin'
something?
>
>     You may be referring to the glass gauge and feelers, which are used to
plot the curve of the facing.
>       All this is very new to me, and at the same time exciting.  I am
beginning to see many similarities between the set-up between the double
reed and the single reed.  I can't wait to start experimenting with some
mpcs I have to see if I am able to turn them into something I can use.
Thanks again for your time, Fred
>
>
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