Mouthpiece Work / ARB Mouthpieces
FROM: sinner3417 (sinner3417)
SUBJECT: ARB Mouthpieces
I recently purchased a used Keilwerth saxophone. In the case was an ARB 8* 7 mouthpiece (arbex). I have searched the net looking for a store that sells such a mouthpiece so that I can get some info. The only info I have is that the opening is .90 or .95. I have not been playing for very long. Can someone educate me? Is this a good mouthpiece? What are the characteristics of such a mouthpeice? Is such a mouthpeice oriented toward Jazz? classical? It seems hard for me to play - especially in for the very high D, E, and F, but seems to help on the very low notes? What is the approximate value of such a mouthpiece? Is there a website that sells ARB mouthpieces? Any help is appreciated. Thanks sinner3417
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: ARB Mouthpieces
ARB was Arnold Brilhart after selling the Brilhart Plastics company.
You did not state if alto or tenor. My chart shows ARB 8* for alto as
being .095", for tenor .105". Their facing sizes were the same as the
Brilhart sizes.
Your mouthpiece is a general playing mouthpiece, not a concert band
mpce, not a full-throttle rock and roll piece, but more big band, combo,
etc.
Paul
sinner3417 wrote:
> I recently purchased a used Keilwerth saxophone. In the case was an
> ARB
> 8* 7 mouthpiece (arbex). I have searched the net looking for a store
> that sells such a mouthpiece so that I can get some info. The only
> info
> I have is that the opening is .90 or .95.
>
> I have not been playing for very long. Can someone educate me?
> Is this a good mouthpiece?
> What are the characteristics of such a mouthpeice?
> Is such a mouthpeice oriented toward Jazz? classical?
> It seems hard for me to play - especially in for the very high D, E,
> and F, but seems to help on the very low notes?
> What is the approximate value of such a mouthpiece?
> Is there a website that sells ARB mouthpieces?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> sinner3417
>
>
>
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FROM: kwbradbury (kwbradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: ARB Mouthpieces
>In the case was an ARB 8* > What is the approximate value of such a mouthpiece? About $25-$35 for a used one on eBay.
FROM: sinner3417 (sinner3417)
SUBJECT: Re: ARB Mouthpieces
Thanks for your help - it is an Alto sax. --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > ARB was Arnold Brilhart after selling the Brilhart Plastics company. > > You did not state if alto or tenor. My chart shows ARB 8* for alto as > being .095", for tenor .105". Their facing sizes were the same as the > Brilhart sizes. > > Your mouthpiece is a general playing mouthpiece, not a concert band > mpce, not a full-throttle rock and roll piece, but more big band, combo, > etc. > > > Paul > > sinner3417 wrote: > > > I recently purchased a used Keilwerth saxophone. In the case was an > > ARB > > 8* 7 mouthpiece (arbex). I have searched the net looking for a store > > that sells such a mouthpiece so that I can get some info. The only > > info > > I have is that the opening is .90 or .95. > > > > I have not been playing for very long. Can someone educate me? > > Is this a good mouthpiece? > > What are the characteristics of such a mouthpeice? > > Is such a mouthpeice oriented toward Jazz? classical? > > It seems hard for me to play - especially in for the very high D, E, > > and F, but seems to help on the very low notes? > > What is the approximate value of such a mouthpiece? > > Is there a website that sells ARB mouthpieces? > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > sinner3417 > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > [Image] > > [Image] > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > > MouthpieceWork@y... > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > -- > Link to Paul's articles from Home page of "Sax on the Web": > > http://www.saxontheweb.net > > or directly to Paul's articles at: > > http://www.saxontheweb.net/Coats/ > > Listen to Paul's MP3's at: > > http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 > > and view photos.
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: ARB Mouthpieces
The 8* alto, .095" tip opening, the * indicates a short facing. With
this extremely wide tip opening, for alto players at least, and short
facing, it is likely to be difficult as far as the low register and
fatigue. Having the facing lengthened will help.
Paul
sinner3417 wrote:
> Thanks for your help - it is an Alto sax.
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote:
> > ARB was Arnold Brilhart after selling the Brilhart Plastics company.
>
> >
> > You did not state if alto or tenor. My chart shows ARB 8* for alto
> as
> > being .095", for tenor .105". Their facing sizes were the same as
> the
> > Brilhart sizes.
> >
> > Your mouthpiece is a general playing mouthpiece, not a concert band
> > mpce, not a full-throttle rock and roll piece, but more big band,
> combo,
> > etc.
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > sinner3417 wrote:
> >
> > > I recently purchased a used Keilwerth saxophone. In the case was
> an
> > > ARB
> > > 8* 7 mouthpiece (arbex). I have searched the net looking for a
> store
> > > that sells such a mouthpiece so that I can get some info. The
> only
> > > info
> > > I have is that the opening is .90 or .95.
> > >
> > > I have not been playing for very long. Can someone educate me?
> > > Is this a good mouthpiece?
> > > What are the characteristics of such a mouthpeice?
> > > Is such a mouthpeice oriented toward Jazz? classical?
> > > It seems hard for me to play - especially in for the very high D,
> E,
> > > and F, but seems to help on the very low notes?
> > > What is the approximate value of such a mouthpiece?
> > > Is there a website that sells ARB mouthpieces?
> > >
> > > Any help is appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > sinner3417
> > >
> > >
> > >
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FROM: danny_tb (danny_tb)
SUBJECT: Re: ARB Mouthpieces
I used to play an alto (I'm now a tenor plyer) with a .103" tip gap, and I can confirm all of those playing characteristics. I bought it when I was young and stupid - for a start it's a tenor mouthpiece (the one I have, that is, not the ARB mouthpiece - the Wolfe Tayne 8* I said about a couple of weeks ago). You're better off going for a decent student model mouthpiece, preferably whatever Keilwerth sells with them new, as it's designed for the sax, and the sax is designed for the mouthpiece. As you get better, you're then in a better position to start venturing away from the standard factory set-up, according to the sound that you want to hear coming out your horn. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth... DB --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > The 8* alto, .095" tip opening, the * indicates a short facing. With > this extremely wide tip opening, for alto players at least, and short > facing, it is likely to be difficult as far as the low register and > fatigue. Having the facing lengthened will help. > > Paul > > sinner3417 wrote: > > > Thanks for your help - it is an Alto sax. > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > > > ARB was Arnold Brilhart after selling the Brilhart Plastics company. > > > > > > > > You did not state if alto or tenor. My chart shows ARB 8* for alto > > as > > > being .095", for tenor .105". Their facing sizes were the same as > > the > > > Brilhart sizes. > > > > > > Your mouthpiece is a general playing mouthpiece, not a concert band > > > mpce, not a full-throttle rock and roll piece, but more big band, > > combo, > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > sinner3417 wrote: > > > > > > > I recently purchased a used Keilwerth saxophone. In the case was > > an > > > > ARB > > > > 8* 7 mouthpiece (arbex). I have searched the net looking for a > > store > > > > that sells such a mouthpiece so that I can get some info. The > > only > > > > info > > > > I have is that the opening is .90 or .95. > > > > > > > > I have not been playing for very long. Can someone educate me? > > > > Is this a good mouthpiece? > > > > What are the characteristics of such a mouthpeice? > > > > Is such a mouthpeice oriented toward Jazz? classical? > > > > It seems hard for me to play - especially in for the very high D, > > E, > > > > and F, but seems to help on the very low notes? > > > > What is the approximate value of such a mouthpiece? > > > > Is there a website that sells ARB mouthpieces? > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > sinner3417 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > [Image] > > > > > > > > [Image] > > > > > > > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > > > > MouthpieceWork@y... > > > > > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to > > see > > > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to > > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > -- > > > Link to Paul's articles from Home page of "Sax on the Web": > > > > > > http://www.saxontheweb.net > > > > > > or directly to Paul's articles at: > > > > > > http://www.saxontheweb.net/Coats/ > > > > > > Listen to Paul's MP3's at: > > > > > > http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 > > > > > > and view photos. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Got a Mouthpiece Work question? Send it to > > MouthpieceWork@y... > > > > Visit the site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MouthpieceWork to see > > the Files, Photos and Bookmarks relating to Mouthpiece Work. > > > > To see and modify your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > -- > Link to Paul's articles from Home page of "Sax on the Web": > > http://www.saxontheweb.net > > or directly to Paul's articles at: > > http://www.saxontheweb.net/Coats/ > > Listen to Paul's MP3's at: > > http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tenorman1952 > > and view photos.