Mouthpiece Work / Anello MP and Some alto MP chamber comparisons
FROM: kwbradbury (kwbradbury)
SUBJECT: Anello MP and Some alto MP chamber comparisons
I recently picked up a e.anello MR alto mouthpiece. Medium facing, Regular lay. I measured .065" inside the tip rail and 40.5 long on the facing length (21.25 mm). The spec was .066" tip. The rails were perfectly even. There was a slight high spot to the curve at my .0095" feeler, but that may be a feature of the curve, not a defect. It played well and had a good basic alto sound. I compared it to my Nete PD67 which is suppose to be a Desmond Gregory copy. The Nete was a little darker for me and a smaller sound. I think this is mostly due to the small window opening on the Nete. The Anello was most similar to the Babbitt HR Meyers I have. The Anello actually has a little wider beak which is really comfortable in the mouth. The inside was like the Meyers with a round chamber. Anello's was smoother inside. No step where the backbore meets the chamber. Just an indicator of the workmanship, not that important for sound. The Meyer had a wider window and narrower side rails. This gives the Meyer a little bigger sound. Like I said, the Nete has a small window. It also has rather thick side rails. The chamber is quasi-rectanguler with curved corners. Angled some like a clarinet's chamber ("A" shaped). I looked in my box-o-mouthpieces and found the Nete is very similar inside to the Vintage Bundy alto MP I have. Its a shame the "Bundy" name is not well regarded among pros. The old Bundy MPs make great blanks. Maybe we shoul buff the Bundy name off them. I wont be holding on to this Anello long. I got it just to check out his work and I'm set with my other MPs. They sell new for $85, so I'm asking $40 for it, or a trade.
FROM: danny_tb (danny_tb)
SUBJECT: Re: Anello MP and Some alto MP chamber comparisons
Can you please let me know how much like a Meyer it is? A friend of mine (alto player) wants a smaller tip-gapped mouthpiece than his Meyer 4 (refaced to 85 thou tip gap), but similar in all other respects, and that sounds like it could be exactly what he's looking for. Would you consider shipping it to Australia? Also, it sounds like the Nete isn't a very good copy of the Desmond style Gregory... The Gregory model "A" 4A 18M has a rounded chamber, like Otto Links. They are very similar to a Link, but with (so I believe) a thinner beak. A friend of mine has a Gregory "Master" 5A 20M that he was given by Paul Desmond, and this is just the same... No baffle, thin beak, rounded chamber. Certainly nothing like an "A" shaped chamber on the real thing (I assume it's a similar shape to the Yamaha student mouthpiece). I am led to believe that the Meyer is the closest thing there is (for a modern production mouthpiece) to the vintage Gregory mouthpieces, and looking at the one that my friend has, I can certainly see why. Anyway, any info you have about it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. DB --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote: > I recently picked up a e.anello MR alto mouthpiece. Medium facing, > Regular lay. I measured .065" inside the tip rail and 40.5 long on > the facing length (21.25 mm). The spec was .066" tip. > > The rails were perfectly even. There was a slight high spot to the > curve at my .0095" feeler, but that may be a feature of the curve, > not a defect. > > It played well and had a good basic alto sound. I compared it to my > Nete PD67 which is suppose to be a Desmond Gregory copy. The Nete > was a little darker for me and a smaller sound. I think this is > mostly due to the small window opening on the Nete. > > The Anello was most similar to the Babbitt HR Meyers I have. The > Anello actually has a little wider beak which is really comfortable > in the mouth. The inside was like the Meyers with a round chamber. > Anello's was smoother inside. No step where the backbore meets the > chamber. Just an indicator of the workmanship, not that important > for sound. > > The Meyer had a wider window and narrower side rails. This gives the > Meyer a little bigger sound. > > Like I said, the Nete has a small window. It also has rather thick > side rails. The chamber is quasi-rectanguler with curved corners. > Angled some like a clarinet's chamber ("A" shaped). I looked in my > box-o-mouthpieces and found the Nete is very similar inside to the > Vintage Bundy alto MP I have. Its a shame the "Bundy" name is not > well regarded among pros. The old Bundy MPs make great blanks. > Maybe we shoul buff the Bundy name off them. > > I wont be holding on to this Anello long. I got it just to check out > his work and I'm set with my other MPs. They sell new for $85, so > I'm asking $40 for it, or a trade.
FROM: kwbradbury (kwbradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Anello MP and Some alto MP chamber comparisons
--- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "danny_tb" <danny_tb@y...> wrote: > Can you please let me know how much like a Meyer it is? A friend of > mine (alto player) wants a smaller tip-gapped mouthpiece than his > Meyer 4 (refaced to 85 thou tip gap), but similar in all other > respects, and that sounds like it could be exactly what he's looking > for. > > Would you consider shipping it to Australia? > Like I said, the Anello is like a modern Meyer 4 except the Window is not as large and the Anello was hand finished. I do not want to open it up since it is made well and would be a good fit for a student or a classical/hard reed player. A .085" tip would be a Meyer 8. I have a Babbitt Meyer 8 blank that has no markings on it except the Meyer diamond with an 8 on the table. The facing needs to be hand faced to complete it. I would sell it for $80 US + s/h to Australia.
FROM: danny_tb (danny_tb)
SUBJECT: Re: Anello MP and Some alto MP chamber comparisons
C's within... --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote: > Like I said, the Anello is like a modern Meyer 4 except the Window is > not as large and the Anello was hand finished. Sounds like it should be good for what he wants. Considering that he gets a "Desmond" type of sound with his Meyer, do you think he should get a similar sound with this mouthpiece? > I do not want to open > it up If you did, he would be *very* disappointed - he wants a small tip gap (like the Meyer 4 is supposed to have). > since it is made well and would be a good fit for a student or > a classical/hard reed player. He's currently a medium hard reed player, but he wants to be a hard reed player, as I am now that I've got my new mouthpiece - I'm trying out a Vandoren Java 3.5 (the La Voz hard is far too soft) but I wouldn't mind trying out a Vandoren 4... He's using Rico 3.5's at the moment with his current mouthpiece - as wide a tip gap for an alto as it has... > A .085" tip would be a Meyer 8. I know, and he knows it too. For some unknown reason it was sent to the USA to be worked on to make it a "better mouthpiece" (this is before he bought it with his horn), and it came back with an 85 thou tip gap instead of the 60-something(?) thou tip gap it was made with. He wants something like an un-touched Meyer 4 so that he can go onto some really hard reeds. He tried a Beuscher True-Lay 55-8??M (55 thou tip gap) and loved every minute of it (once he adjusted to it), but the owner of it wouldn't part with it. He's the one that told me to "go for it" when I found my beloved Beuscher True-Lay 60-937M... Do you have any idea of what the s/h charge would be to send the Anello to Australia? > I have a Babbitt Meyer 8 blank that > has no markings on it except the Meyer diamond with an 8 on the > table. The facing needs to be hand faced to complete it. I would > sell it for $80 US + s/h to Australia. Basically, as far as the tone we like is concerned, my friend and I are "birds of a feather". He's a staunch alto player, and only likes the tenor down low, where the alto doesn't have as much presence to it's tone - but when he heard me playing on my new mouthpiece with a hard reed, he told me that my tone was making hin seriously consider selling his alto, buying a tenor, and getting the same mouthpiece as I've got. Needless to say, the Meyer 8 wouldn't be the one he would be interested in. However, when I told him about the Anello last night, his ears really pricked up. Is the Anello still US$40 +s/h? Thanks in advance. DB
FROM: kwbradbury (kwbradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Anello MP
I mis-read your post about your friend's MP situation. Now I understand he wants something like a Meyer 4. This Anello MR would be a good fit. I'll work on a s/h estimate and contact you via Email.