Mouthpiece Work / Decreasing da bore
FROM: baribri (baribri)
SUBJECT: Decreasing da bore
Hey guys, I really appreciate all of the wonderful response you have given to me. Let me just say first to those of you that were kind enough to suggest only using one mouthpiece etc. I have been playing for over 4 decades with many of the best known bands around and while just a sideman, I have a really good understanding of sound, tone, embouchure and mainly because my main horn is bari, I am very adept at doubling and making fast changes, almost in the same category as Mojo who floored me one time while I sat next to him in a section and out of nowhere he pulled out a HUGE train whistle to underscore "Chatanooga Choo Choo" to this day I still break up thinking about that one, now THAT is doubling... Seriously I know about changing mouthpieces but what I said here is I found a piece that I really want to use occasionally, my regular piece which happens to be a Lamberson 7M hard rubber bari piece is almost just like the best sounding NY Meyer ever but there are times when I want something a bit different, not bolder, edgier or broader, just a bit different and here it is but I do not want to go nuts with corks and gizmo's. Last night on a gig I realized my friend, some of you may know him, Hans Muhler formerly the head Yamaha tech in NYC was on the gig playing trombone. I asked about your suggestions and he took the mouthpiece, will be making measurements and installing a brass or silver sleeve for me.. Thanks to all of you for the wonderful response, it is very much appreciated and to Mojo Keith fingers for starting such a nice group. I have one more question, how come there does not seem to be any mouthpiece "action" such as trading etc. going on within the group? Have I broached a taboo topic? Brian Axelrod
FROM: tenorman1952 (Paul Coats)
SUBJECT: Re: Decreasing da bore
> > Mojo who floored me one time while I sat next to him in a section and > out of nowhere he pulled out a HUGE train whistle to > underscore "Chatanooga Choo Choo" to this day I still break up > thinking about that one, now THAT is doubling... Hah!!!! > > I have one more question, how > come there does not seem to be any mouthpiece "action" such as > trading etc. going on within the group? Have I broached a taboo topic? > > Brian Axelrod > It's because we are all mouthpiece hogs... we buy 'em, we don't sell 'em. The mouthpieces we don't think are great players, we don't sell 'em, we hack on them until they do play, or they are too far gone to be anything but a doorstop. Well, I am just talking about me. No one else in this group is this crazy. I don't think. Well, maybe. Paul
FROM: petersax999 (Rawlings, Peter)
SUBJECT: Re: Decreasing da bore
What about the time honored tradition of wrapping a piece of scrap paper around the cork?? That's what I do!! re: trading mouthpieces... Whaddaya got fro trade!!??!!?? regards, Pete Message: 15 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:03:16 -0000 From: "baribri" <Baribri@...> Subject: Decreasing da bore Hey guys, I really appreciate all of the wonderful response you have given to me. Let me just say first to those of you that were kind enough to suggest only using one mouthpiece etc. I have been playing for over 4 decades with many of the best known bands around and while just a sideman, I have a really good understanding of sound, tone, embouchure and mainly because my main horn is bari, I am very adept at doubling and making fast changes, almost in the same category as Mojo who floored me one time while I sat next to him in a section and out of nowhere he pulled out a HUGE train whistle to underscore "Chatanooga Choo Choo" to this day I still break up thinking about that one, now THAT is doubling... Seriously I know about changing mouthpieces but what I said here is I found a piece that I really want to use occasionally, my regular piece which happens to be a Lamberson 7M hard rubber bari piece is almost just like the best sounding NY Meyer ever but there are times when I want something a bit different, not bolder, edgier or broader, just a bit different and here it is but I do not want to go nuts with corks and gizmo's. Last night on a gig I realized my friend, some of you may know him, Hans Muhler formerly the head Yamaha tech in NYC was on the gig playing trombone. I asked about your suggestions and he took the mouthpiece, will be making measurements and installing a brass or silver sleeve for me.. Thanks to all of you for the wonderful response, it is very much appreciated and to Mojo Keith fingers for starting such a nice group. I have one more question, how come there does not seem to be any mouthpiece "action" such as trading etc. going on within the group? Have I broached a taboo topic? Brian Axelrod
FROM: danny_tb (danny_tb)
SUBJECT: Re: Decreasing da bore
Brian, Nice to hear that you've found someone that understands the care required to do the modifications. As for a taboo topic... Not that I'm aware of. Personally, I think it's helping to secure in my mind (through thinking more about the topic) that I'm better off with the one mouthpiece. And I'm sure that others (through thinking about the topic) will be more firmly convinced that having several set-ups is the way to go. If you (or anyone else) want to have several set-ups, then that's fine - as long as you're well aware of the possible problems associated with it (just as I'm aware of the possible problems associated with using just the one set-up). Besides... Sometimes I like to be the figurative "devil's advocate" (this isn't just in terms of sax tone, etc) just to make people think more about what they do (not saying that anyone here hasn't thought about what they do - being on this list is proff that everyone here *does* think about what they do). ;-) Anyway, I hope that you have plenty of enjoyment playing your new mouthpiece. :-) DB --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "baribri" <Baribri@o...> wrote: <snip> > Hans Muhler formerly the head Yamaha tech in NYC > was on the gig playing trombone. I asked about your suggestions and > he took the mouthpiece, will be making measurements and installing a > brass or silver sleeve for me.. >Have I broached a taboo topic? > Brian Axelrod
FROM: danny_tb (danny_tb)
SUBJECT: Re: Decreasing da bore
Paul, You're not totally alone. :-) Although I'm going to sell my metal mouthpiece, because it's worth more to me as $ in the bank (or new pads on the horn) than as a door stop. However, I have attacked the mouthpiece I bought with the horn... But plastic is a bit too light-weight to use as an effective door stop... ;-) DB --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., Paul Coats <tenorman@t...> wrote: > > > > Mojo who floored me one time while I sat next to him in a section and > > out of nowhere he pulled out a HUGE train whistle to > > underscore "Chatanooga Choo Choo" to this day I still break up > > thinking about that one, now THAT is doubling... > > Hah!!!! > > > > > I have one more question, how > > come there does not seem to be any mouthpiece "action" such as > > trading etc. going on within the group? Have I broached a taboo topic? > > > > Brian Axelrod > > > > It's because we are all mouthpiece hogs... we buy 'em, we don't sell > 'em. The mouthpieces we don't think are great players, we don't sell > 'em, we hack on them until they do play, or they are too far gone to be > anything but a doorstop. > > Well, I am just talking about me. No one else in this group is this > crazy. I don't think. Well, maybe. > > Paul
FROM: danny_tb (danny_tb)
SUBJECT: Re: Decreasing da bore
It worked for me when I was trying to compare my new MP with my old one... Easy. Really cheap too! :-) DB --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "Rawlings, Peter" <Peter_Rawlings@a...> wrote: > What about the time honored tradition of wrapping a piece of scrap paper > around the cork?? > > That's what I do!! > > > re: trading mouthpieces... Whaddaya got fro trade!!??!!?? > > regards, > Pete > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:03:16 -0000 > From: "baribri" <Baribri@o...> > Subject: Decreasing da bore > > Hey guys, > I really appreciate all of the wonderful response you have given to > me. Let me just say first to those of you that were kind enough to > suggest only using one mouthpiece etc. I have been playing for over 4 > decades with many of the best known bands around and while just a > sideman, I have a really good understanding of sound, tone, > embouchure and mainly because my main horn is bari, I am very adept > at doubling and making fast changes, almost in the same category as > Mojo who floored me one time while I sat next to him in a section and > out of nowhere he pulled out a HUGE train whistle to > underscore "Chatanooga Choo Choo" to this day I still break up > thinking about that one, now THAT is doubling... > Seriously I know about changing mouthpieces but what I said here is I > found a piece that I really want to use occasionally, my regular > piece which happens to be a Lamberson 7M hard rubber bari piece is > almost just like the best sounding NY Meyer ever but there are times > when I want something a bit different, not bolder, edgier or broader, > just a bit different and here it is but I do not want to go nuts with > corks and gizmo's. Last night on a gig I realized my friend, some of > you may know him, Hans Muhler formerly the head Yamaha tech in NYC > was on the gig playing trombone. I asked about your suggestions and > he took the mouthpiece, will be making measurements and installing a > brass or silver sleeve for me.. Thanks to all of you for the > wonderful response, it is very much appreciated and to Mojo Keith > fingers for starting such a nice group. I have one more question, how > come there does not seem to be any mouthpiece "action" such as > trading etc. going on within the group? Have I broached a taboo topic? > Brian Axelrod