Mouthpiece Work / Re: Digest Number 33
FROM: philbarone2002 (Phil Barone)
SUBJECT: Re: Digest Number 33
I can probably sell some blanks; they're metal models of mine with cosmetic
flaws. I'm not sure exactly what I have right now but if anyone's
interested they can email me.
By the way, the material is pretty insignificant in determining the sound.
While the mouthpiece does vibrate a little, studies show that the amount in
too little to influence the sound. Case in point, Bird's recordings on a
plastic sax. Suggested reading for this in "Fundamentals of Musical
acoustics" by Bonade.
Much of manufacturing process is determined by costs but as laymen (of which
I consider myself) we speculate a lot of stuff that simple isn't true and
no manufacturer will ever admit that they do a particular thing because it's
cheaper. Not even me, well maybe I would but then again I'm a horrendous
salesperson.
I know this may sound ludicrous but if you continue to work on mouthpieces
the eventually you'll see how to what degree the sound is determined by the
bore, baffle etc. and not the material. I also suggest reading some books
on bells. While they really have nothing to do with mouthpieces, the
manufacturing process is similar. Casting, roughing, hand-finishing, and
polishing.
If anyone wants to make their own mouthpiece from a prototype I'll be happy
to help but be prepared to spend some money. Sorry I haven't posted in so
long. Everybody have a great day. Phil Barone
For all your mouthpiece needs
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Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Digest Number 33
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> 1. Re: Mpc. blanks
> From: "petersax999" <Peter_Rawlings@...>
> 2. Re: Re: Mpc. blanks
> From: Paul Coats <tenorman@...>
> 3. Re: Re: Mpc. blanks
> From: Paul Coats <tenorman@...>
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> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 21:22:07 -0000
> From: "petersax999" <Peter_Rawlings@...>
> Subject: Re: Mpc. blanks
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just found (and joined) this group!! Awesome!!
>
> I, too, am interested in acquiring some mouthpiece blanks
> (though, it is some time since the original post)
>
> I'd like to start with 3 Tenor pieces, too. Let me know the details
> (email: Peter_Rawlings (at) ADC (dot) com.
>
> Thaks,
> Pete
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "tenorsaxx" <tenorsaxx@y...> wrote:
> > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., tenorman@t... wrote:
> > > I have King alto mouthpiece that is a Runyon 22. I would have
> to
> > look
> > > at your Kink tenors to ID them.
> >
> > I'll try to get some photos up to the Photos section tonight.
> >
> > >
> > > The Runyon plastic is pretty tough. It is actually a blend of
> > acrylic
> > > and synthetic rubber, engineered to vibrate the same as hard
> rubber.
> > > The beak does not wear excessively from teeth, unless the player
> is
> > a
> > > real "Iron Jaw" type. The Runyons are injection molded, but the
> > facing
> > > is machined, the baffle and tip are hand finished.
> >
> > Sounds good -- I'd like to try working & playing on one of those.
> >
> > > I can probably get the Runyons for under $10 each. Less if we
> > leave off
> > > caps and ligatures. If clarinets, less if we leave off the cork,
> > too,
> > > and you cork it yourself. So, if this is a good idea, I would
> need
> > to
> > > know how many to order... and clarinet, alto, or tenor.
> > >
> > > Paul
> >
> > I'll take 3 tenors please. Let me know the details.
> >
> > Man, this group is great.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Barry
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:25:26 -0500
> From: Paul Coats <tenorman@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Mpc. blanks
>
> Since this is just for learning on, when I order, and it will be for
> everyone at the same time, will be getting only alto blanks.
>
> I think I can get to under $5 each, with a facing put on, no markings,
> no lig, no cap.
>
> Paul
>
> petersax999 wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I just found (and joined) this group!! Awesome!!
> >
> > I, too, am interested in acquiring some mouthpiece blanks
> > (though, it is some time since the original post)
> >
> > I'd like to start with 3 Tenor pieces, too. Let me know the details
> > (email: Peter_Rawlings (at) ADC (dot) com.
> >
> > Thaks,
> > Pete
> >
> > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "tenorsaxx" <tenorsaxx@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., tenorman@t... wrote:
> > > > I have King alto mouthpiece that is a Runyon 22. I would have
> > to
> > > look
> > > > at your Kink tenors to ID them.
> > >
> > > I'll try to get some photos up to the Photos section tonight.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The Runyon plastic is pretty tough. It is actually a blend of
> > > acrylic
> > > > and synthetic rubber, engineered to vibrate the same as hard
> > rubber.
> > > > The beak does not wear excessively from teeth, unless the player
> > is
> > > a
> > > > real "Iron Jaw" type. The Runyons are injection molded, but the
> > > facing
> > > > is machined, the baffle and tip are hand finished.
> > >
> > > Sounds good -- I'd like to try working & playing on one of those.
> > >
> > > > I can probably get the Runyons for under $10 each. Less if we
> > > leave off
> > > > caps and ligatures. If clarinets, less if we leave off the cork,
> > > too,
> > > > and you cork it yourself. So, if this is a good idea, I would
> > need
> > > to
> > > > know how many to order... and clarinet, alto, or tenor.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > > I'll take 3 tenors please. Let me know the details.
> > >
> > > Man, this group is great.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken Barry
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:26:53 -0500
> From: Paul Coats <tenorman@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Mpc. blanks
>
> On the other hand... several guys have been asking for tenor blanks...
> let me see and I will get back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> petersax999 wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I just found (and joined) this group!! Awesome!!
> >
> > I, too, am interested in acquiring some mouthpiece blanks
> > (though, it is some time since the original post)
> >
> > I'd like to start with 3 Tenor pieces, too. Let me know the details
> > (email: Peter_Rawlings (at) ADC (dot) com.
> >
> > Thaks,
> > Pete
> >
> > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "tenorsaxx" <tenorsaxx@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., tenorman@t... wrote:
> > > > I have King alto mouthpiece that is a Runyon 22. I would have
> > to
> > > look
> > > > at your Kink tenors to ID them.
> > >
> > > I'll try to get some photos up to the Photos section tonight.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The Runyon plastic is pretty tough. It is actually a blend of
> > > acrylic
> > > > and synthetic rubber, engineered to vibrate the same as hard
> > rubber.
> > > > The beak does not wear excessively from teeth, unless the player
> > is
> > > a
> > > > real "Iron Jaw" type. The Runyons are injection molded, but the
> > > facing
> > > > is machined, the baffle and tip are hand finished.
> > >
> > > Sounds good -- I'd like to try working & playing on one of those.
> > >
> > > > I can probably get the Runyons for under $10 each. Less if we
> > > leave off
> > > > caps and ligatures. If clarinets, less if we leave off the cork,
> > > too,
> > > > and you cork it yourself. So, if this is a good idea, I would
> > need
> > > to
> > > > know how many to order... and clarinet, alto, or tenor.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > > I'll take 3 tenors please. Let me know the details.
> > >
> > > Man, this group is great.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken Barry
> >
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