Mouthpiece Work / Tools
FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman@...)
SUBJECT: Tools
Moooore Power!!!!! Yes!
Can any of the smaller, more hobby size lathes be of any use to us
duffers? At least, if working in other materials, such as delrin,
rather than high production rate for metal.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
> Well, I have tons of stuff including a CNC machine and a heavy
> lathe. I machine most of my tools myself. Phil For
> all your mouthpiece needs
> WWW.PhilBarone.com
> PhilBarone@...
> PH: (212) 686-9410
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tenorman@...
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
> Removing material... Well, once removed it is gone... I
> have made tools from dowels, with sandpaper glued on, have a
> number of files of different shapes. Some great tools for
> this at www.micromark.com.
>
> What do you use?
>
> Paul
>
> Phil Barone wrote:
>
> > Great, but what about removing
> > material? For all your mouthpiece needs
> >
> > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > PhilBarone@...
> > PH: (212) 686-9410
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tenorman@...
> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22 PM
> > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
> > You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy
> > putty!
> >
> > One thing I have done, to experiment, was to
> > drip candle wax into the chamber. Then carve
> > this to shape. It is more stable than chewing
> > gum... Hah! Then experiment with shapes,
> > contours. If I went too far, a few more drips
> > of wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not)
> > I would just chip out the wax and start again
> > with epoxy putty.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Phil Barone wrote:
> >
> > > Paul, something we overlook also is that the
> > > chamber reigns king over the facing when it
> > > comes to importance in changing the sound.
> > > Facings are a good start but knowing your
> > > chamber work is what seperates the men from the
> > > boys. Phil For all your
> > > mouthpiece needs
> > > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > > PhilBarone@...
> > > PH: (212) 686-9410
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tenorman@...
> > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31
> > > PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re:
> > > Welcome!
> > > Certainly right on the mark, Phil!
> > > That is why I suggested we do as is
> > > suggested by John Winslow, and use
> > > some student model pieces,
> > > inexpensive, yet good players to
> > > start with. Then experiment to find
> > > our for ourselves what change has
> > > what effect. Constant working and
> > > playing is the only way to learn
> > > this.
> > >
> > > I turned a lot of good mouthpieces
> > > into junk before I started to get
> > > some results. But this was working
> > > in a vacuum... no internet help 30
> > > years ago.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > philbarone2002 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bill, I suggest you don't work on
> > > > your primary mouthpiece; not even
> > > > just cleaning it up. It can really
> > > > mess you up. Phil Barone
> > > >
> > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y...,
> > > > "billmecca" <bill@b...> wrote:
> > > > > Very cool idea Mojo,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have thought about tinkering a
> > > > bit, but haven't the time to chase
> > > > > down the needed info. if I can
> > > > find it all in one place it will
> > > > ease
> > > > > that trouble, then it will be
> > > > finding the time ;-) (4 kids etc
> > > > etc
> > > > > doesn't leave much huh?)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I
> > > > would like to just clean up a bit,
> > > > a
> > > > > few nicks on the inside of the
> > > > side rails, and I've thought about
> > > > > experimenting with making it a
> > > > Deep V . maybe open the tip a bit
> > > > as
> > > > > well...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y...,
> > > > "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Have you ever tried to find
> > > > information on mouthpiece making or
> > > >
> > > > > > refacing? Until now you've
> > > > been pretty much on your own. It
> > > > is
> > > > > such
> > > > > > a niche field that very little
> > > > has been written down to help you
> > > > > get
> > > > > > started or to help refine your
> > > > skills. Pros working in the field
> > > > > are
> > > > > > usually too busy working on
> > > > pieces or they regard their methods
> > > >
> > > > as
> > > > > > trade secrets. I think there
> > > > is plenty of work to go around and
> > > > > we
> > > > > > need to communicate to elevate
> > > > the art and science of mouthpiece
> > > > > work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is my hope that we will
> > > > accumulate files and photos
> > > > pertaining
> > > > > to
> > > > > > mouthpiece work. I look
> > > > forward to an active forum where we
> > > > can
> > > > > > share our ideas and
> > > > experiences.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have decided to start the
> > > > group as open to the public and
> > > > > > unmoderated. I belong to some
> > > > good groups set up this way. If
> > > > we
> > > > > > have problems in the future,
> > > > I'll consider changing it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome. Start by posting your
> > > > level of activity and interest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MojoBari
> > > >
> > > >
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FROM: philbarone2002 (Phil Barone)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
Paul, I don't see why you'd need a lathe. I use them for forming the barrel on mouthpieces I make from scratch. I use an inside expanding mandrel. Phil
For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@PhilBarone.com
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Tools
Moooore Power!!!!! Yes!
Can any of the smaller, more hobby size lathes be of any use to us duffers? At least, if working in other materials, such as delrin, rather than high production rate for metal.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Well, I have tons of stuff including a CNC machine and a heavy lathe. I machine most of my tools myself. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
Removing material... Well, once removed it is gone... I have made tools from dowels, with sandpaper glued on, have a number of files of different shapes. Some great tools for this at www.micromark.com.
What do you use?
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Great, but what about removing material? For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy putty!
One thing I have done, to experiment, was to drip candle wax into the chamber. Then carve this to shape. It is more stable than chewing gum... Hah! Then experiment with shapes, contours. If I went too far, a few more drips of wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not) I would just chip out the wax and start again with epoxy putty.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Paul, something we overlook also is that the chamber reigns king over the facing when it comes to importance in changing the sound. Facings are a good start but knowing your chamber work is what seperates the men from the boys. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Welcome!
Certainly right on the mark, Phil! That is why I suggested we do as is suggested by John Winslow, and use some student model pieces, inexpensive, yet good players to start with. Then experiment to find our for ourselves what change has what effect. Constant working and playing is the only way to learn this.
I turned a lot of good mouthpieces into junk before I started to get some results. But this was working in a vacuum... no internet help 30 years ago.
Paul
philbarone2002 wrote:
Bill, I suggest you don't work on your primary mouthpiece; not even
just cleaning it up. It can really mess you up. Phil Barone
--- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "billmecca" <bill@b...> wrote:
> Very cool idea Mojo,
>
> I have thought about tinkering a bit, but haven't the time to chase
> down the needed info. if I can find it all in one place it will
ease
> that trouble, then it will be finding the time ;-) (4 kids etc etc
> doesn't leave much huh?)
>
> I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I would like to just clean up a bit,
a
> few nicks on the inside of the side rails, and I've thought about
> experimenting with making it a Deep V . maybe open the tip a bit as
> well...
>
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > Have you ever tried to find information on mouthpiece making or
> > refacing? Until now you've been pretty much on your own. It is
> such
> > a niche field that very little has been written down to help you
> get
> > started or to help refine your skills. Pros working in the field
> are
> > usually too busy working on pieces or they regard their methods
as
> > trade secrets. I think there is plenty of work to go around and
> we
> > need to communicate to elevate the art and science of mouthpiece
> work.
> >
> > It is my hope that we will accumulate files and photos pertaining
> to
> > mouthpiece work. I look forward to an active forum where we can
> > share our ideas and experiences.
> >
> > I have decided to start the group as open to the public and
> > unmoderated. I belong to some good groups set up this way. If
we
> > have problems in the future, I'll consider changing it.
> >
> > Welcome. Start by posting your level of activity and interest.
> >
> > MojoBari
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FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
I was thinking of turning blanks, etc.
Phil Barone wrote:
> Paul, I don't see why you'd need a lathe. I use them for forming the
> barrel on mouthpieces I make from scratch. I use an inside expanding
> mandrel. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
> WWW.PhilBarone.com
> PhilBarone@...
> PH: (212) 686-9410
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tenorman@...
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:09 PM
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Tools
> Moooore Power!!!!! Yes!
>
> Can any of the smaller, more hobby size lathes be of any use
> to us duffers? At least, if working in other materials,
> such as delrin, rather than high production rate for metal.
>
> Paul
>
> Phil Barone wrote:
>
> > Well, I have tons of stuff including a CNC machine and a
> > heavy lathe. I machine most of my tools myself.
> > Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
> > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > PhilBarone@...
> > PH: (212) 686-9410
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tenorman@...
> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
> > Removing material... Well, once removed it is
> > gone... I have made tools from dowels, with
> > sandpaper glued on, have a number of files of
> > different shapes. Some great tools for this at
> > www.micromark.com.
> >
> > What do you use?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Phil Barone wrote:
> >
> > > Great, but what about removing
> > > material? For all your
> > > mouthpiece needs
> > > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > > PhilBarone@...
> > > PH: (212) 686-9410
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tenorman@...
> > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22
> > > PM
> > > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber
> > > shape
> > > You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on
> > > the epoxy putty!
> > >
> > > One thing I have done, to experiment,
> > > was to drip candle wax into the
> > > chamber. Then carve this to shape.
> > > It is more stable than chewing gum...
> > > Hah! Then experiment with shapes,
> > > contours. If I went too far, a few
> > > more drips of wax. When I had a
> > > likely good shape (or not) I would
> > > just chip out the wax and start again
> > > with epoxy putty.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > Phil Barone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Paul, something we overlook also is
> > > > that the chamber reigns king over
> > > > the facing when it comes to
> > > > importance in changing the sound.
> > > > Facings are a good start but
> > > > knowing your chamber work is what
> > > > seperates the men from the boys.
> > > > Phil For all
> > > > your mouthpiece needs
> > > >
> > > > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > > >
> > > > PhilBarone@...
> > > > PH: (212)
> > > > 686-9410
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message
> > > > -----
> > > > From: tenorman@...
> > > > To:
> > > > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14,
> > > > 2002 3:31 PM
> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > > [MouthpieceWork] Re:
> > > > Welcome!
> > > > Certainly right on the
> > > > mark, Phil! That is why
> > > > I suggested we do as is
> > > > suggested by John
> > > > Winslow, and use some
> > > > student model pieces,
> > > > inexpensive, yet good
> > > > players to start with.
> > > > Then experiment to find
> > > > our for ourselves what
> > > > change has what effect.
> > > > Constant working and
> > > > playing is the only way
> > > > to learn this.
> > > >
> > > > I turned a lot of good
> > > > mouthpieces into junk
> > > > before I started to get
> > > > some results. But this
> > > > was working in a
> > > > vacuum... no internet
> > > > help 30 years ago.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > philbarone2002 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bill, I suggest you
> > > > > don't work on your
> > > > > primary mouthpiece; not
> > > > > even
> > > > > just cleaning it up.
> > > > > It can really mess you
> > > > > up. Phil Barone
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> > > > > MouthpieceWork@y...,
> > > > > "billmecca" <bill@b...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Very cool idea Mojo,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have thought about
> > > > > tinkering a bit, but
> > > > > haven't the time to
> > > > > chase
> > > > > > down the needed info.
> > > > > if I can find it all in
> > > > > one place it will
> > > > > ease
> > > > > > that trouble, then it
> > > > > will be finding the
> > > > > time ;-) (4 kids etc
> > > > > etc
> > > > > > doesn't leave much
> > > > > huh?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a Jumbo Java
> > > > > T45, that I would like
> > > > > to just clean up a bit,
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > > > few nicks on the
> > > > > inside of the side
> > > > > rails, and I've thought
> > > > > about
> > > > > > experimenting with
> > > > > making it a Deep V .
> > > > > maybe open the tip a
> > > > > bit as
> > > > > > well...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
> > > > > MouthpieceWork@y...,
> > > > > "kwbradbury"
> > > > > <kwbradbury@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Have you ever tried
> > > > > to find information on
> > > > > mouthpiece making or
> > > > > > > refacing? Until
> > > > > now you've been pretty
> > > > > much on your own. It
> > > > > is
> > > > > > such
> > > > > > > a niche field that
> > > > > very little has been
> > > > > written down to help
> > > > > you
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > started or to help
> > > > > refine your skills.
> > > > > Pros working in the
> > > > > field
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > usually too busy
> > > > > working on pieces or
> > > > > they regard their
> > > > > methods
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > trade secrets. I
> > > > > think there is plenty
> > > > > of work to go around
> > > > > and
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > need to communicate
> > > > > to elevate the art and
> > > > > science of mouthpiece
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is my hope that
> > > > > we will accumulate
> > > > > files and photos
> > > > > pertaining
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > mouthpiece work. I
> > > > > look forward to an
> > > > > active forum where we
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > share our ideas and
> > > > > experiences.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have decided to
> > > > > start the group as open
> > > > > to the public and
> > > > > > > unmoderated. I
> > > > > belong to some good
> > > > > groups set up this
> > > > > way. If
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > have problems in
> > > > > the future, I'll
> > > > > consider changing it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Welcome. Start by
> > > > > posting your level of
> > > > > activity and interest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MojoBari
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > the Web":
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > or directly to Paul's
> > > > articles at:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.saxontheweb.net/Coats/
> > > >
> > > > Listen to Paul's MP3
> > > > samples at:
> > > >
> > > >
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FROM: philbarone2002 (Phil Barone)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
Paul, one of the mistakes I made was getting into the mouthpiece thing too much. I wish I had stuck to playing instead and left the mouthpiece making to the pros. If you're willing to let your playing slide then go for it. you can't be obsessed with two things at the same time. Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Tools
I was thinking of turning blanks, etc.
Phil Barone wrote:
Paul, I don't see why you'd need a lathe. I use them for forming the barrel on mouthpieces I make from scratch. I use an inside expanding mandrel. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Tools
Moooore Power!!!!! Yes!
Can any of the smaller, more hobby size lathes be of any use to us duffers? At least, if working in other materials, such as delrin, rather than high production rate for metal.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Well, I have tons of stuff including a CNC machine and a heavy lathe. I machine most of my tools myself. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
Removing material... Well, once removed it is gone... I have made tools from dowels, with sandpaper glued on, have a number of files of different shapes. Some great tools for this at www.micromark.com.
What do you use?
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Great, but what about removing material? For all your mouthpiece needs
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy putty!
One thing I have done, to experiment, was to drip candle wax into the chamber. Then carve this to shape. It is more stable than chewing gum... Hah! Then experiment with shapes, contours. If I went too far, a few more drips of wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not) I would just chip out the wax and start again with epoxy putty.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Paul, something we overlook also is that the chamber reigns king over the facing when it comes to importance in changing the sound. Facings are a good start but knowing your chamber work is what seperates the men from the boys. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Welcome!
Certainly right on the mark, Phil! That is why I suggested we do as is suggested by John Winslow, and use some student model pieces, inexpensive, yet good players to start with. Then experiment to find our for ourselves what change has what effect. Constant working and playing is the only way to learn this.
I turned a lot of good mouthpieces into junk before I started to get some results. But this was working in a vacuum... no internet help 30 years ago.
Paul
philbarone2002 wrote:
Bill, I suggest you don't work on your primary mouthpiece; not even
just cleaning it up. It can really mess you up. Phil Barone
--- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "billmecca" <bill@b...> wrote:
> Very cool idea Mojo,
>
> I have thought about tinkering a bit, but haven't the time to chase
> down the needed info. if I can find it all in one place it will
ease
> that trouble, then it will be finding the time ;-) (4 kids etc etc
> doesn't leave much huh?)
>
> I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I would like to just clean up a bit,
a
> few nicks on the inside of the side rails, and I've thought about
> experimenting with making it a Deep V . maybe open the tip a bit as
> well...
>
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > Have you ever tried to find information on mouthpiece making or
> > refacing? Until now you've been pretty much on your own. It is
> such
> > a niche field that very little has been written down to help you
> get
> > started or to help refine your skills. Pros working in the field
> are
> > usually too busy working on pieces or they regard their methods
as
> > trade secrets. I think there is plenty of work to go around and
> we
> > need to communicate to elevate the art and science of mouthpiece
> work.
> >
> > It is my hope that we will accumulate files and photos pertaining
> to
> > mouthpiece work. I look forward to an active forum where we can
> > share our ideas and experiences.
> >
> > I have decided to start the group as open to the public and
> > unmoderated. I belong to some good groups set up this way. If
we
> > have problems in the future, I'll consider changing it.
> >
> > Welcome. Start by posting your level of activity and interest.
> >
> > MojoBari
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FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
That is for sure! Between everything from soprano to bass sax, my
composition and arranging, mouthpiece work, performances, lessons,
whew! It ALL suffers.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
> Paul, one of the mistakes I made was getting into the mouthpiece
> thing too much. I wish I had stuck to playing instead and left the
> mouthpiece making to the pros. If you're willing to let your playing
> slide then go for it. you can't be obsessed with two things at the
> same time. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
> WWW.PhilBarone.com
> PhilBarone@...
> PH: (212) 686-9410
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tenorman@...
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Tools
> I was thinking of turning blanks, etc.
>
> Phil Barone wrote:
>
> > Paul, I don't see why you'd need a lathe. I use them for
> > forming the barrel on mouthpieces I make from scratch. I
> > use an inside expanding mandrel. Phil
> > For all your mouthpiece needs
> > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > PhilBarone@...
> > PH: (212) 686-9410
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tenorman@...
> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:09 PM
> > Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Tools
> > Moooore Power!!!!! Yes!
> >
> > Can any of the smaller, more hobby size lathes
> > be of any use to us duffers? At least, if
> > working in other materials, such as delrin,
> > rather than high production rate for metal.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Phil Barone wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I have tons of stuff including a CNC
> > > machine and a heavy lathe. I machine most of
> > > my tools myself. Phil For
> > > all your mouthpiece needs
> > > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > > PhilBarone@...
> > > PH: (212) 686-9410
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tenorman@...
> > > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:42
> > > PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re:
> > > Chamber shape
> > > Removing material... Well, once
> > > removed it is gone... I have made
> > > tools from dowels, with sandpaper
> > > glued on, have a number of files of
> > > different shapes. Some great tools
> > > for this at www.micromark.com.
> > >
> > > What do you use?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > Phil Barone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great, but what about removing
> > > > material? For
> > > > all your mouthpiece needs
> > > >
> > > > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > > >
> > > > PhilBarone@...
> > > > PH: (212)
> > > > 686-9410
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message
> > > > -----
> > > > From: tenorman@...
> > > > To:
> > > > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14,
> > > > 2002 4:22 PM
> > > > Subject: [MouthpieceWork]
> > > > Re: Chamber shape
> > > > You betchum, Red Ryder!
> > > > Bring on the epoxy putty!
> > > >
> > > > One thing I have done, to
> > > > experiment, was to drip
> > > > candle wax into the
> > > > chamber. Then carve this
> > > > to shape. It is more
> > > > stable than chewing
> > > > gum... Hah! Then
> > > > experiment with shapes,
> > > > contours. If I went too
> > > > far, a few more drips of
> > > > wax. When I had a likely
> > > > good shape (or not) I
> > > > would just chip out the
> > > > wax and start again with
> > > > epoxy putty.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > Phil Barone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Paul, something we
> > > > > overlook also is that
> > > > > the chamber reigns king
> > > > > over the facing when it
> > > > > comes to importance in
> > > > > changing the sound.
> > > > > Facings are a good
> > > > > start but knowing your
> > > > > chamber work is what
> > > > > seperates the men from
> > > > > the boys.
> > > > > Phil
> > > > > For all your mouthpiece
> > > > > needs
> > > > >
> > > > > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > > > >
> > > > > PhilBarone@...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PH: (212) 686-9410
> > > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > Original
> > > > > Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > tenorman@...
> > > > > To:
> > > > > MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent:
> > > > > Thursday,
> > > > > March 14,
> > > > > 2002 3:31 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re:
> > > > > [MouthpieceWork]
> > > > > Re: Welcome!
> > > > > Certainly
> > > > > right on the
> > > > > mark, Phil!
> > > > > That is why I
> > > > > suggested we
> > > > > do as is
> > > > > suggested by
> > > > > John Winslow,
> > > > > and use some
> > > > > student model
> > > > > pieces,
> > > > > inexpensive,
> > > > > yet good
> > > > > players to
> > > > > start with.
> > > > > Then
> > > > > experiment to
> > > > > find our for
> > > > > ourselves
> > > > > what change
> > > > > has what
> > > > > effect.
> > > > > Constant
> > > > > working and
> > > > > playing is
> > > > > the only way
> > > > > to learn
> > > > > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > I turned a
> > > > > lot of good
> > > > > mouthpieces
> > > > > into junk
> > > > > before I
> > > > > started to
> > > > > get some
> > > > > results. But
> > > > > this was
> > > > > working in a
> > > > > vacuum... no
> > > > > internet help
> > > > > 30 years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > phil
> > > > > arone2002
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bill, I
> > > > > > suggest you
> > > > > > don't work
> > > > > > on your
> > > > > > primary
> > > > > > mouthpiece;
> > > > > > not even
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > cleaning it
> > > > > > up. It can
> > > > > > really mess
> > > > > > you up. Phil
> > > > > > Barone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > MouthpieceWork@y...,
> > > > > > "billmecca"
> > > > > > <bill@b...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Very cool
> > > > > > idea Mojo,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have
> > > > > > thought
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > tinkering a
> > > > > > bit, but
> > > > > > haven't the
> > > > > > time to
> > > > > > chase
> > > > > > > down the
> > > > > > needed info.
> > > > > > if I can
> > > > > > find it all
> > > > > > in one place
> > > > > > it will
> > > > > > ease
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > trouble,
> > > > > > then it will
> > > > > > be finding
> > > > > > the time ;-)
> > > > > > (4 kids etc
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > leave much
> > > > > > huh?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a
> > > > > > Jumbo Java
> > > > > > T45, that I
> > > > > > would like
> > > > > > to just
> > > > > > clean up a
> > > > > > bit,
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > few nicks
> > > > > > on the
> > > > > > inside of
> > > > > > the side
> > > > > > rails, and
> > > > > > I've thought
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > experimenting
> > > > > > with making
> > > > > > it a Deep V
> > > > > > . maybe open
> > > > > > the tip a
> > > > > > bit as
> > > > > > > well...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > MouthpieceWork@y...,
> > > > > > "kwbradbury"
> > > > > > <kwbradbury@y...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Have you
> > > > > > ever tried
> > > > > > to find
> > > > > > information
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > mouthpiece
> > > > > > making or
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > refacing?
> > > > > > Until now
> > > > > > you've been
> > > > > > pretty much
> > > > > > on your
> > > > > > own. It is
> > > > > > > such
> > > > > > > > a niche
> > > > > > field that
> > > > > > very little
> > > > > > has been
> > > > > > written down
> > > > > > to help you
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > started
> > > > > > or to help
> > > > > > refine your
> > > > > > skills.
> > > > > > Pros working
> > > > > > in the field
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > usually
> > > > > > too busy
> > > > > > working on
> > > > > > pieces or
> > > > > > they regard
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > methods
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > trade
> > > > > > secrets. I
> > > > > > think there
> > > > > > is plenty of
> > > > > > work to go
> > > > > > around and
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > need to
> > > > > > communicate
> > > > > > to elevate
> > > > > > the art and
> > > > > > science of
> > > > > > mouthpiece
> > > > > > > work.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is my
> > > > > > hope that we
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > accumulate
> > > > > > files and
> > > > > > photos
> > > > > > pertaining
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > mouthpiece
> > > > > > work. I
> > > > > > look forward
> > > > > > to an active
> > > > > > forum where
> > > > > > we can
> > > > > > > > share
> > > > > > our ideas
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > experiences.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have
> > > > > > decided to
> > > > > > start the
> > > > > > group as
> > > > > > open to the
> > > > > > public and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > unmoderated.
> > > > > > I belong to
> > > > > > some good
> > > > > > groups set
> > > > > > up this
> > > > > > way. If
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > problems in
> > > > > > the future,
> > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > consider
> > > > > > changing it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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FROM: rosss12000 (Ross)
SUBJECT: Tools
The elusive spreadsheet problem was resolved by right clicking the file, and using the "save as" option....(Came down in seconds) Payback.....? To relieve the baffle close to the tip rail, I fitted a drafting compass with a home made, flat ended blade. By trial and error, on paper, I found the outside tip radius, and with the compas set to that radius, dimpled the baffle with the compas point. By reducing the compas radius by the tip rail width, I was easily able to scrape away the interior baffle, with little worry of a slip. Hope that helps someone, this site has helped me. Thanks. Ross
FROM: teddytenor (teddytenor)
SUBJECT: Tools
What is a good system for holding the mouthpiece securely while working on it?A certain type of vise or stand?I have an adjusting trumpet mandrel now-great for corking sax necks but not that good for mouthpieces stability wise.
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
I find vices and clamps just get in the way. A mouthpiece needs to be repositioned so many times while reworking it. One hand holds it, the other shapes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
FROM: moeaaron (Barry Levine)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
> What is a good system for holding the mouthpiece securely > while working on it?A certain type of vise or stand?I have an > adjusting trumpet mandrel now-great for corking sax necks but > not that good for mouthpieces stability wise. Sometimes I will set a mouthpiece onto a gob of bluetack while working on the chamber and baffle. I'm still holding onto it, but the bluetack keeps it from sliding around, makes it easier to hold it firmly in one position. When measuring the facing curve, I find it helpful to strap the mouthpiece onto the gauge using a modified Rovner ligature - see the photo in the photo files.
FROM: andrewhdonaldson (andrewhdonaldson)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "teddytenor" <lyakush@...> wrote: > > What is a good system for holding the mouthpiece securely > while working on it?A certain type of vise or stand?I have an > adjusting trumpet mandrel now-great for corking sax necks but > not that good for mouthpieces stability wise. > I use a hobbyist's vice with rubber faced clamps. It has an adjustable ball and socket joint on the base and can be mounted on the edge of a desk. It can be set at virtually any angle. I use it to hold the mouthpiece with the facing side up so that I can work on the chamber, tip or facing curve. Mouthpiece is held rock steady and both hands are free for holding tools, etc. Sounds like everyone has their own method that works for them . . .
FROM: teddytenor (Lorraine Yakush)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
on 2/25/06 8:24 PM, andrewhdonaldson at andrewhdonaldson@... wrote:
--- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "teddytenor" <lyakush@...> wrote:
>
> What is a good system for holding the mouthpiece securely
> while working on it?A certain type of vise or stand?I have an
> adjusting trumpet mandrel now-great for corking sax necks but
> not that good for mouthpieces stability wise.
>
I use a hobbyist's vice with rubber faced clamps. It has an
adjustable ball and socket joint on the base and can be mounted on the
edge of a desk. It can be set at virtually any angle. I use it to
hold the mouthpiece with the facing side up so that I can work on the
chamber, tip or facing curve. Mouthpiece is held rock steady and both
hands are free for holding tools, etc.
Sounds like everyone has their own method that works for them . . .
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FROM: petersax99 (Peter Rawlings)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
Most (all) of the mouthpiece refacers that I know of (myself included) hold them in their hands while they work. Especially while working on the facing. I suppose if you were using a dremel to work on the chamber then you might want to have the MP held steady in some kind of vise, but otherwise, I find it necessary to hold it in my hand. -Pete --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "teddytenor" <lyakush@...> wrote: > > What is a good system for holding the mouthpiece securely > while working on it?A certain type of vise or stand?I have an > adjusting trumpet mandrel now-great for corking sax necks but > not that good for mouthpieces stability wise. >
FROM: petersax99 (Peter Rawlings)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
Barry, Those are both GREAT ideas. I've tried various methods of holding the mthpc onto the glass gauge, but none have been satisfactory. The Rovner lig sounds like a great idea, though. I'm gonna try it. ] Thanks, Pete --- In MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Levine" <barrylevine@...> wrote: > > > What is a good system for holding the mouthpiece securely > > while working on it?A certain type of vise or stand?I have an > > adjusting trumpet mandrel now-great for corking sax necks but > > not that good for mouthpieces stability wise. > > Sometimes I will set a mouthpiece onto a gob of bluetack while working on > the chamber and baffle. I'm still holding onto it, but the bluetack keeps it > from sliding around, makes it easier to hold it firmly in one position. > > When measuring the facing curve, I find it helpful to strap the mouthpiece > onto the gauge using a modified Rovner ligature - see the photo in the photo > files. >
FROM: kwbradbury (Keith Bradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Tools
> > Those are both GREAT ideas. I've tried various methods of holding the > mthpc onto the glass gauge, but none have been satisfactory. The > Rovner lig sounds like a great idea, though. I'm gonna try it. I tried holding the glass gage on with a Rovner lig once. My readings were significantly different. I did not play with it long enough to figure out exactly why. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com