Mouthpiece Work / Re: Chamber shape
FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Chamber shape
You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy putty!
One thing I have done, to experiment, was to drip candle wax into the
chamber. Then carve this to shape. It is more stable than chewing
gum... Hah! Then experiment with shapes, contours. If I went too far,
a few more drips of wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not) I
would just chip out the wax and start again with epoxy putty.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
> Paul, something we overlook also is that the chamber reigns king over
> the facing when it comes to importance in changing the sound. Facings
> are a good start but knowing your chamber work is what seperates the
> men from the boys. Phil For all your mouthpiece
> needs
> WWW.PhilBarone.com
> PhilBarone@...
> PH: (212) 686-9410
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tenorman@...
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Welcome!
> Certainly right on the mark, Phil! That is why I suggested
> we do as is suggested by John Winslow, and use some student
> model pieces, inexpensive, yet good players to start with.
> Then experiment to find our for ourselves what change has
> what effect. Constant working and playing is the only way
> to learn this.
>
> I turned a lot of good mouthpieces into junk before I
> started to get some results. But this was working in a
> vacuum... no internet help 30 years ago.
>
> Paul
>
> philbarone2002 wrote:
>
> > Bill, I suggest you don't work on your primary
> > mouthpiece; not even
> > just cleaning it up. It can really mess you up. Phil
> > Barone
> >
> > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "billmecca" <bill@b...> wrote:
> >
> > > Very cool idea Mojo,
> > >
> > > I have thought about tinkering a bit, but haven't the
> > time to chase
> > > down the needed info. if I can find it all in one place
> > it will
> > ease
> > > that trouble, then it will be finding the time ;-) (4
> > kids etc etc
> > > doesn't leave much huh?)
> > >
> > > I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I would like to just clean
> > up a bit,
> > a
> > > few nicks on the inside of the side rails, and I've
> > thought about
> > > experimenting with making it a Deep V . maybe open the
> > tip a bit as
> > > well...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury"
> > <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > > > Have you ever tried to find information on mouthpiece
> > making or
> > > > refacing? Until now you've been pretty much on your
> > own. It is
> > > such
> > > > a niche field that very little has been written down
> > to help you
> > > get
> > > > started or to help refine your skills. Pros working
> > in the field
> > > are
> > > > usually too busy working on pieces or they regard
> > their methods
> > as
> > > > trade secrets. I think there is plenty of work to go
> > around and
> > > we
> > > > need to communicate to elevate the art and science of
> > mouthpiece
> > > work.
> > > >
> > > > It is my hope that we will accumulate files and photos
> > pertaining
> > > to
> > > > mouthpiece work. I look forward to an active forum
> > where we can
> > > > share our ideas and experiences.
> > > >
> > > > I have decided to start the group as open to the
> > public and
> > > > unmoderated. I belong to some good groups set up
> > this way. If
> > we
> > > > have problems in the future, I'll consider changing
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > Welcome. Start by posting your level of activity and
> > interest.
> > > >
> > > > MojoBari
> >
> >
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FROM: philbarone2002 (Phil Barone)
SUBJECT: Re: Chamber shape
Great, but what about removing material?
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy putty!
One thing I have done, to experiment, was to drip candle wax into the chamber. Then carve this to shape. It is more stable than chewing gum... Hah! Then experiment with shapes, contours. If I went too far, a few more drips of wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not) I would just chip out the wax and start again with epoxy putty.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Paul, something we overlook also is that the chamber reigns king over the facing when it comes to importance in changing the sound. Facings are a good start but knowing your chamber work is what seperates the men from the boys. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@teche.net
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Welcome!
Certainly right on the mark, Phil! That is why I suggested we do as is suggested by John Winslow, and use some student model pieces, inexpensive, yet good players to start with. Then experiment to find our for ourselves what change has what effect. Constant working and playing is the only way to learn this.
I turned a lot of good mouthpieces into junk before I started to get some results. But this was working in a vacuum... no internet help 30 years ago.
Paul
philbarone2002 wrote:
Bill, I suggest you don't work on your primary mouthpiece; not even
just cleaning it up. It can really mess you up. Phil Barone
--- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "billmecca" <bill@b...> wrote:
> Very cool idea Mojo,
>
> I have thought about tinkering a bit, but haven't the time to chase
> down the needed info. if I can find it all in one place it will
ease
> that trouble, then it will be finding the time ;-) (4 kids etc etc
> doesn't leave much huh?)
>
> I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I would like to just clean up a bit,
a
> few nicks on the inside of the side rails, and I've thought about
> experimenting with making it a Deep V . maybe open the tip a bit as
> well...
>
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > Have you ever tried to find information on mouthpiece making or
> > refacing? Until now you've been pretty much on your own. It is
> such
> > a niche field that very little has been written down to help you
> get
> > started or to help refine your skills. Pros working in the field
> are
> > usually too busy working on pieces or they regard their methods
as
> > trade secrets. I think there is plenty of work to go around and
> we
> > need to communicate to elevate the art and science of mouthpiece
> work.
> >
> > It is my hope that we will accumulate files and photos pertaining
> to
> > mouthpiece work. I look forward to an active forum where we can
> > share our ideas and experiences.
> >
> > I have decided to start the group as open to the public and
> > unmoderated. I belong to some good groups set up this way. If
we
> > have problems in the future, I'll consider changing it.
> >
> > Welcome. Start by posting your level of activity and interest.
> >
> > MojoBari
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FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Chamber shape
Removing material... Well, once removed it is gone... I have made tools
from dowels, with sandpaper glued on, have a number of files of
different shapes. Some great tools for this at www.micromark.com.
What do you use?
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
> Great, but what about removing material? For all
> your mouthpiece needs
> WWW.PhilBarone.com
> PhilBarone@...
> PH: (212) 686-9410
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tenorman@...
> To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22 PM
> Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
> You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy putty!
>
> One thing I have done, to experiment, was to drip candle wax
> into the chamber. Then carve this to shape. It is more
> stable than chewing gum... Hah! Then experiment with
> shapes, contours. If I went too far, a few more drips of
> wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not) I would just
> chip out the wax and start again with epoxy putty.
>
> Paul
>
> Phil Barone wrote:
>
> > Paul, something we overlook also is that the chamber
> > reigns king over the facing when it comes to importance in
> > changing the sound. Facings are a good start but knowing
> > your chamber work is what seperates the men from the boys.
> > Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
> > WWW.PhilBarone.com
> > PhilBarone@...
> > PH: (212) 686-9410
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tenorman@...
> > To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Welcome!
> > Certainly right on the mark, Phil! That is why
> > I suggested we do as is suggested by John
> > Winslow, and use some student model pieces,
> > inexpensive, yet good players to start with.
> > Then experiment to find our for ourselves what
> > change has what effect. Constant working and
> > playing is the only way to learn this.
> >
> > I turned a lot of good mouthpieces into junk
> > before I started to get some results. But this
> > was working in a vacuum... no internet help 30
> > years ago.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > philbarone2002 wrote:
> >
> > > Bill, I suggest you don't work on your primary
> > > mouthpiece; not even
> > > just cleaning it up. It can really mess you
> > > up. Phil Barone
> > >
> > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "billmecca"
> > > <bill@b...> wrote:
> > > > Very cool idea Mojo,
> > > >
> > > > I have thought about tinkering a bit, but
> > > haven't the time to chase
> > > > down the needed info. if I can find it all in
> > > one place it will
> > > ease
> > > > that trouble, then it will be finding the
> > > time ;-) (4 kids etc etc
> > > > doesn't leave much huh?)
> > > >
> > > > I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I would like to
> > > just clean up a bit,
> > > a
> > > > few nicks on the inside of the side rails,
> > > and I've thought about
> > > > experimenting with making it a Deep V . maybe
> > > open the tip a bit as
> > > > well...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury"
> > > <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Have you ever tried to find information on
> > > mouthpiece making or
> > > > > refacing? Until now you've been pretty
> > > much on your own. It is
> > > > such
> > > > > a niche field that very little has been
> > > written down to help you
> > > > get
> > > > > started or to help refine your skills.
> > > Pros working in the field
> > > > are
> > > > > usually too busy working on pieces or they
> > > regard their methods
> > > as
> > > > > trade secrets. I think there is plenty of
> > > work to go around and
> > > > we
> > > > > need to communicate to elevate the art and
> > > science of mouthpiece
> > > > work.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is my hope that we will accumulate files
> > > and photos pertaining
> > > > to
> > > > > mouthpiece work. I look forward to an
> > > active forum where we can
> > > > > share our ideas and experiences.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have decided to start the group as open
> > > to the public and
> > > > > unmoderated. I belong to some good groups
> > > set up this way. If
> > > we
> > > > > have problems in the future, I'll consider
> > > changing it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome. Start by posting your level of
> > > activity and interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > MojoBari
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> > > to:
> > > MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
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> >
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FROM: philbarone2002 (Phil Barone)
SUBJECT: Re: Chamber shape
Next ya have to get a flexshaft!
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
Removing material... Well, once removed it is gone... I have made tools from dowels, with sandpaper glued on, have a number of files of different shapes. Some great tools for this at www.micromark.com.
What do you use?
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Great, but what about removing material? For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy putty!
One thing I have done, to experiment, was to drip candle wax into the chamber. Then carve this to shape. It is more stable than chewing gum... Hah! Then experiment with shapes, contours. If I went too far, a few more drips of wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not) I would just chip out the wax and start again with epoxy putty.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Paul, something we overlook also is that the chamber reigns king over the facing when it comes to importance in changing the sound. Facings are a good start but knowing your chamber work is what seperates the men from the boys. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Welcome!
Certainly right on the mark, Phil! That is why I suggested we do as is suggested by John Winslow, and use some student model pieces, inexpensive, yet good players to start with. Then experiment to find our for ourselves what change has what effect. Constant working and playing is the only way to learn this.
I turned a lot of good mouthpieces into junk before I started to get some results. But this was working in a vacuum... no internet help 30 years ago.
Paul
philbarone2002 wrote:
Bill, I suggest you don't work on your primary mouthpiece; not even
just cleaning it up. It can really mess you up. Phil Barone
--- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "billmecca" <bill@b...> wrote:
> Very cool idea Mojo,
>
> I have thought about tinkering a bit, but haven't the time to chase
> down the needed info. if I can find it all in one place it will
ease
> that trouble, then it will be finding the time ;-) (4 kids etc etc
> doesn't leave much huh?)
>
> I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I would like to just clean up a bit,
a
> few nicks on the inside of the side rails, and I've thought about
> experimenting with making it a Deep V . maybe open the tip a bit as
> well...
>
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > Have you ever tried to find information on mouthpiece making or
> > refacing? Until now you've been pretty much on your own. It is
> such
> > a niche field that very little has been written down to help you
> get
> > started or to help refine your skills. Pros working in the field
> are
> > usually too busy working on pieces or they regard their methods
as
> > trade secrets. I think there is plenty of work to go around and
> we
> > need to communicate to elevate the art and science of mouthpiece
> work.
> >
> > It is my hope that we will accumulate files and photos pertaining
> to
> > mouthpiece work. I look forward to an active forum where we can
> > share our ideas and experiences.
> >
> > I have decided to start the group as open to the public and
> > unmoderated. I belong to some good groups set up this way. If
we
> > have problems in the future, I'll consider changing it.
> >
> > Welcome. Start by posting your level of activity and interest.
> >
> > MojoBari
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FROM: philbarone2002 (Phil Barone)
SUBJECT: Re: Chamber shape
Well, I have tons of stuff including a CNC machine and a heavy lathe. I machine most of my tools myself. Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
Removing material... Well, once removed it is gone... I have made tools from dowels, with sandpaper glued on, have a number of files of different shapes. Some great tools for this at www.micromark.com.
What do you use?
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Great, but what about removing material? For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Chamber shape
You betchum, Red Ryder! Bring on the epoxy putty!
One thing I have done, to experiment, was to drip candle wax into the chamber. Then carve this to shape. It is more stable than chewing gum... Hah! Then experiment with shapes, contours. If I went too far, a few more drips of wax. When I had a likely good shape (or not) I would just chip out the wax and start again with epoxy putty.
Paul
Phil Barone wrote:
Paul, something we overlook also is that the chamber reigns king over the facing when it comes to importance in changing the sound. Facings are a good start but knowing your chamber work is what seperates the men from the boys. Phil For all your mouthpiece needs
WWW.PhilBarone.com
PhilBarone@...
PH: (212) 686-9410
----- Original Message -----
From: tenorman@...
To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MouthpieceWork] Re: Welcome!
Certainly right on the mark, Phil! That is why I suggested we do as is suggested by John Winslow, and use some student model pieces, inexpensive, yet good players to start with. Then experiment to find our for ourselves what change has what effect. Constant working and playing is the only way to learn this.
I turned a lot of good mouthpieces into junk before I started to get some results. But this was working in a vacuum... no internet help 30 years ago.
Paul
philbarone2002 wrote:
Bill, I suggest you don't work on your primary mouthpiece; not even
just cleaning it up. It can really mess you up. Phil Barone
--- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "billmecca" <bill@b...> wrote:
> Very cool idea Mojo,
>
> I have thought about tinkering a bit, but haven't the time to chase
> down the needed info. if I can find it all in one place it will
ease
> that trouble, then it will be finding the time ;-) (4 kids etc etc
> doesn't leave much huh?)
>
> I have a Jumbo Java T45, that I would like to just clean up a bit,
a
> few nicks on the inside of the side rails, and I've thought about
> experimenting with making it a Deep V . maybe open the tip a bit as
> well...
>
>
> --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "kwbradbury" <kwbradbury@y...> wrote:
> > Have you ever tried to find information on mouthpiece making or
> > refacing? Until now you've been pretty much on your own. It is
> such
> > a niche field that very little has been written down to help you
> get
> > started or to help refine your skills. Pros working in the field
> are
> > usually too busy working on pieces or they regard their methods
as
> > trade secrets. I think there is plenty of work to go around and
> we
> > need to communicate to elevate the art and science of mouthpiece
> work.
> >
> > It is my hope that we will accumulate files and photos pertaining
> to
> > mouthpiece work. I look forward to an active forum where we can
> > share our ideas and experiences.
> >
> > I have decided to start the group as open to the public and
> > unmoderated. I belong to some good groups set up this way. If
we
> > have problems in the future, I'll consider changing it.
> >
> > Welcome. Start by posting your level of activity and interest.
> >
> > MojoBari
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FROM: kwbradbury (kwbradbury)
SUBJECT: Baffles & Epoxy
One good putty to use to experiment with is poster hanging putty. It goes by names such as Sticky-Tack (SP?) and DAP Fun Tak. I have the DAP stuff. I use it to try out baffle shapes. It fights you a little while molding it and it sometimes does not want to stick, but it is teporary and comes out easy. After you get a shape you like, remove it and roll it up in a ball to estimate how much epoxy you will need. I find this easier than making an oversized baffle and filing it to the final shape. There are many epoxies out there to choose from. Some are putties some are glues. If you let the glues set up some, you can use them like putties. I've used a lot of Atlas Plumber's Epoxy and some JB Weld (for small repairs) and Ferree's Jet black. Lately I've been trying Oatley Epoxy Putty. It is a white bar with a black core. It is a fast set Epoxy (5 min). You need to work fast, but I like it better than having to wait.
FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Baffles & Epoxy
Epoxy putty is easier to shape if you get your finger, or shaping tool
water wet. The water does not seem to affect the epoxy in any way.
I notice there are some interesting putties, and other rubber and
plastic molding materials in the Micromark catalog. I would like to
experiment with these in the future. Yeah, I'll work that in somewhere
in my schedule... LOL!
Paul
kwbradbury wrote:
> One good putty to use to experiment with is poster hanging putty. It
>
> goes by names such as Sticky-Tack (SP?) and DAP Fun Tak. I have the
> DAP stuff. I use it to try out baffle shapes. It fights you a
> little while molding it and it sometimes does not want to stick, but
> it is teporary and comes out easy.
>
> After you get a shape you like, remove it and roll it up in a ball to
> estimate how much epoxy you will need. I find this easier than
> making an oversized baffle and filing it to the final shape.
>
> There are many epoxies out there to choose from. Some are putties
> some are glues. If you let the glues set up some, you can use them
> like putties. I've used a lot of Atlas Plumber's Epoxy and some JB
> Weld (for small repairs) and Ferree's Jet black. Lately I've been
> trying Oatley Epoxy Putty. It is a white bar with a black core. It
> is a fast set Epoxy (5 min). You need to work fast, but I like it
> better than having to wait.
>
>
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FROM: kwbradbury (kwbradbury)
SUBJECT: Re: Baffles & Epoxy
That's Oatey Epoxy Putty, not Oatley. Got it at Home Depot.
FROM: mikeruhl (Mike Ruhl)
SUBJECT: Re: Baffles & Epoxy
Yep, even a rank amateur like me can get good results with poster putty. I use it to tighten up the sound of my old tenor Florida Link. Mojo - great idea to start this group. I perused a few of the message threads, and I'd like to say thanks to Phil Barone for his insights and candor. Mike >kwbradbury wrote: > > > One good putty to use to experiment with is poster hanging putty. It > > > > goes by names such as Sticky-Tack (SP?) and DAP Fun Tak. I have the > > DAP stuff. I use it to try out baffle shapes. It fights you a > > little while molding it and it sometimes does not want to stick, but > > it is teporary and comes out easy. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
FROM: tenorsaxx (tenorsaxx)
SUBJECT: Re: Baffles & Epoxy
I use Super Sculpey, a type of plastiline (oil-based clay) -- it's easy to shape, and lasts a few weeks, enough to try new dimensions. For permanent stuff I use PC-11 Marine Epoxy, sets up in a few hours. Ken --- In MouthpieceWork@y..., "Mike Ruhl" <mikeruhl@h...> wrote: > Yep, even a rank amateur like me can get good results with poster putty. I > use it to tighten up the sound of my old tenor Florida Link. >