FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman1952)
SUBJECT: Glad to be here!
Hi all!  

Steve has a kit he uses, from Babbit?  He can tell you more about 
that.

I can also highly recommend the kit I use, from Madison Enterprises.  
Madison Enterprises is John Winslow, as in the Winslow Ligature.  He 
ran the facing machine for Santy Runyon many years ago in Chicago.  
This kit can be found at Woodwind & Brasswind.

There is also a kit from Ralph Morgan, and while I have not seen it, I 
am sure it has all you need and is of good quality.  Ralph would do it 
no other way.

While you are getting tools, lay in a supply of 600, 800, 1000, and 
1500 grit silicon carbide paper.  

Also, I like smaller, narrower files than the ones supplied in my kit. 
 You can get many good handtools, useful for gunsmithing, instrument 
repair, model work, as well as mouthpieces, from www.micromark.com.  
Their main clientelle is model builders, particularly model 
railroaders... but the tools required are the same.  The catalog is 
free for the asking.

Paul Coats


FROM: saxgourmet (STEVE GOODSON)
SUBJECT: Re: Glad to be here!
I got a large granite block (level to 15/10,000ths) from Enco Supply; glass gauges from J. J. Babbitt; and feelers from Pepboys. Paul showed me how he added larger grips to the feelers, and I went a step further and covered the ends with Plasti-dip. I got a tip opening gizmo from Babbitt, but it's not very precise, so I use a digital caliper that I got from Enco. For baffles, I use (upon Jon Van Wie's suggestion) J. B. Weld.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tenorman1952 
  To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:51 PM
  Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Glad to be here!


  Hi all!  

  Steve has a kit he uses, from Babbit?  He can tell you more about 
  that.

  I can also highly recommend the kit I use, from Madison Enterprises.  
  Madison Enterprises is John Winslow, as in the Winslow Ligature.  He 
  ran the facing machine for Santy Runyon many years ago in Chicago.  
  This kit can be found at Woodwind & Brasswind.

  There is also a kit from Ralph Morgan, and while I have not seen it, I 
  am sure it has all you need and is of good quality.  Ralph would do it 
  no other way.

  While you are getting tools, lay in a supply of 600, 800, 1000, and 
  1500 grit silicon carbide paper.  

  Also, I like smaller, narrower files than the ones supplied in my kit. 
  You can get many good handtools, useful for gunsmithing, instrument 
  repair, model work, as well as mouthpieces, from www.micromark.com.  
  Their main clientelle is model builders, particularly model 
  railroaders... but the tools required are the same.  The catalog is 
  free for the asking.

  Paul Coats


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FROM: tenorman1952 (tenorman@...)
SUBJECT: Re: Glad to be here!
The larger feeler grips were simply screws and wing nuts.  They came
with the Madison Enterprises (Winslow) kit.

When I visited with Steve last year, and met Ron Coelho there, he used a
glass gauge (with lines for measuring along the facing with feelers)
that on the opposite end had a hole drilled in it.  To measure tip
opening, he would turn the glass around, and hold it on the facing with
his thumb, the hole over the tip of the mouthpiece.  He would then
insert the end of his dial caliper, the "depth gauge" and get a reading,
subtracting the thickness of the glass.

Of course, with any method, you must be right on the tip of the tip
rail, about to fall off the end.  You can get various readings as you
move the probe around the tip rail.  This is difficult to do, and you
must practice to get consistent, meaningful readings.

I would like to measure the same mouthpiece with various types of
gauges, and see what differences are inherent in each.

Paul

STEVE GOODSON wrote:

> I got a large granite block (level to 15/10,000ths) from Enco Supply;
> glass gauges from J. J. Babbitt; and feelers from Pepboys. Paul showed
> me how he added larger grips to the feelers, and I went a step further
> and covered the ends with Plasti-dip. I got a tip opening gizmo from
> Babbitt, but it's not very precise, so I use a digital caliper that I
> got from Enco. For baffles, I use (upon Jon Van Wie's suggestion) J.
> B. Weld.
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: tenorman1952
>      To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com
>      Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:51 PM
>      Subject: [MouthpieceWork] Glad to be here!
>       Hi all!
>
>      Steve has a kit he uses, from Babbit?  He can tell you more
>      about
>      that.
>
>      I can also highly recommend the kit I use, from Madison
>      Enterprises.
>      Madison Enterprises is John Winslow, as in the Winslow
>      Ligature.  He
>      ran the facing machine for Santy Runyon many years ago in
>      Chicago.
>      This kit can be found at Woodwind & Brasswind.
>
>      There is also a kit from Ralph Morgan, and while I have not
>      seen it, I
>      am sure it has all you need and is of good quality.  Ralph
>      would do it
>      no other way.
>
>      While you are getting tools, lay in a supply of 600, 800,
>      1000, and
>      1500 grit silicon carbide paper.
>
>      Also, I like smaller, narrower files than the ones supplied
>      in my kit.
>      You can get many good handtools, useful for gunsmithing,
>      instrument
>      repair, model work, as well as mouthpieces, from
>      www.micromark.com.
>      Their main clientelle is model builders, particularly model
>      railroaders... but the tools required are the same.  The
>      catalog is
>      free for the asking.
>
>      Paul Coats
>
>
>
>      To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>      MouthpieceWork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>      Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>      Service.
>
>
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